General Discussion - Page 188

On March 08 2012 22:42 Kznn wrote:
sorry guys, if you die as a DS to less than 3 heroes you are doing something wrong

On March 08 2012 22:05 cecek wrote:
Dark Seer is actually the tankiest hero on level 1, isn't he? Both his base strength and armor are one of the highest in the game.

On March 08 2012 22:42 Kznn wrote:
sorry guys, if you die as a DS to less than 3 heroes you are doing something wrong

On March 09 2012 00:14 Slardar wrote:
Night Stalker is close if not tankier iirc, and Slardar is pretty close at level one. (From the current hero pools in Dota2)

On March 09 2012 00:21 Nub4ever wrote:

Bane? I think can probably solo kill a DS

On March 08 2012 22:42 Kznn wrote:
sorry guys, if you die as a DS to less than 3 heroes you are doing something wrong

On March 09 2012 06:07 Steveling wrote:
Ok, so I'm watching Infs vs Quantic now, being broadcasted by itsgosu and who the fuck is the guy with the incredibly awesome voice??
It reminds me of tb a lil bit but more enjoyable/not so heavy.

On March 09 2012 06:50 Alur wrote:

If you're referring to the guy with the radio voice it's Ayesee, the other american is Draskyl, don't know who the eurpopean sounding guy, probably some competitive player...

On March 09 2012 07:32 Tryhat wrote:
There's something that has been confusing me, and that is creep pulling. Now, I'm not a noob (been playing dota for a long time), but creep pulling is something I don't understand. I have two examples:

1) I'm solo bot (radiant) with Silencer. Completely owning up Jakiro + Viper, even driving both home to heal and almost scoring a double kill. Then a jungler (that doesn't need to pull to farm) decides to creep pull onto the lane, then stacking and pulling etc. What this accomplished: a) Lost a few lasthits to my tower (maybe one or two by mistake, but also many simply because the tower outdamages me and two creeps might go down at the same time to tower + creeps and stuff like that). I know a lot of tricks to get lasthits even when the tower outdamages you, but sometimes it's impossible. b) The wave gets pushed all the way to the enemy tower, which is both risky and makes me lose several waves of enemy creeps to denies they could make behind their tower. c) Our tower was lost to creeps. All in all: Tower lost and I could lasthit at a pace of about 30% of my normal lasthitting tempo. Yeah, creep pulling is so great...

2) Dual lane (radiant) as Spectre with a babysitting CM. Alchemist wants to make it a trilane, so he pulls creeps aaaaaall the time. Results: The wave is pushed back, then forward, then back, then forward. I lost my lasthitting tempo to my tower, to denies close to their tower, and because it simply got chaotic.

I don't want the wave close to their tower, and I don't wanna compete with towers for lasthits, so why would I want anyone to creep pull? Can someone explain?

edit: Maybe I should start to ward off our own creep camps in the future That sure would get the russians pinging like mad.

On March 08 2012 22:14 flamewheel wrote:
Yeah there are a couple 25s and one 26 (Tresdin) but their initial armors don't go past 3. I think Rikimaru is the only hero with higher starting armor than Dark Seer, and that's just barely higher.