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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
On March 08 2012 13:15 Steveling wrote: Like who? As an outsider(to the na scene I mean) my opinion is that after Demon, Fear and Merlini some years back, there's only chaos. Meaning no players good enough to compete with top euros/chinese. So, can you elaborate on that? Bulbasaur, PowerNet, 1437, Universe, inphinity and others I've missed can compete with top euros/chinese individual skill-wise, but NA hasn't had a competitive scene or sponsors so they haven't had any motivation to train their teamwork. Case in point, look at USA winning MYM Prime Nations last year. | ||
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kethers
United States719 Posts
The old Blink Dagger used to be able to evade Omnislash, but the new Dagger won't allow that anymore. I don't think that the Forcestaff will push you far enough out of range for Omnislash check though | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 08 2012 15:55 kethers wrote: The old Blink Dagger used to be able to evade Omnislash, but the new Dagger won't allow that anymore. I don't think that the Forcestaff will push you far enough out of range for Omnislash check though no, we are talking about using items WHILE omnislash... not while BEING slashed xD on a side note, just troll kiante in a pub game and now he is threatening to ban my IP if i dont tell him who i actually am T_T.... darkseer carry is sicking good though + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/500HF.png) | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Quantic vs DTS, CLG vs wW 1st round matchups, and probably some great matches after(possible EG/Quantic rematch, possible storyline match with Na'Vi vs Darer). Starts early in the morning for NA though =/ | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 08 2012 16:57 red_ wrote: http://www.team-dignitas.net/dota-invitational Quantic vs DTS, CLG vs wW 1st round matchups, and probably some great matches after(possible EG/Quantic rematch, possible storyline match with Na'Vi vs Darer). Starts early in the morning for NA though =/ CLG wW again? LOLOLOL gona be fun is it bo3 or bo1? | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 08 2012 17:04 NB wrote: CLG wW again? LOLOLOL gona be fun is it bo3 or bo1? It doesn't specify on the info page actually. 2 days to play 4 rounds, perhaps round 1 will be single elim with the others being series, but I have no idea. | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
Because the community exploded when Team Fortress 2 went free to play, this eventually became a huge cash flow. "I'd suggest anyone doing an online only game release free-to-play," Ludwig said. This isn't just because it worked for Valve, but because it's the most sensible means of attracting an audience. He says if Valve knew in 2007 what it knew now, Team Fortress 2 always would have been free. just another indicator that Dota 2 will probably be free to play! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
On March 08 2012 16:41 NB wrote: no, we are talking about using items WHILE omnislash... not while BEING slashed xD on a side note, just troll kiante in a pub game and now he is threatening to ban my IP if i dont tell him who i actually am T_T.... darkseer carry is sicking good though + Show Spoiler + kiante so mad | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On March 08 2012 13:15 Steveling wrote: Like who? As an outsider(to the na scene I mean) my opinion is that after Demon, Fear and Merlini some years back, there's only chaos. Meaning no players good enough to compete with top euros/chinese. So, can you elaborate on that? Other than what I would consider the newer generation of players: universe, 1437, bulba, powernet aka Team ItsGosu and EZstyle and the MYM Pride team that won nations with Demon as captain.....[ I didn't watch/follow these guys as much since i played comp dota less in this period ] Merlini [ Obvious ] Hit0mi/IndigoChildren [ In my opinion the best overall player in American dota history...short lived career but genius play ] DogKaiser's syllabear [ One of the first people to warrant a ban on a specific hero, that wasn't already being banned ] p0c [ Great support ] In_deed [ Great support, he wrote lots of guides that were translated to Chinese even ] OwnageJuice [ led his team Pandemic with monster plays ] Fachh[P]'s juggernaut JollyJoker [ He was gifted in individual skill but all the teams he was on died ] JohnnyUtah/Remstar [ Canadian but played for lots of US teams ] This was a really long time ago...and I'm not sure they are as good as the TOP CHINESE teams...but in their era they had huge impacts and imho they coulda played internationally. American teams never stayed together long enough and had lots of egos....that's why coL/Fire is amazing. They pretty much outshine seemingly better talent through sheer teamwork and teamplay. They don't have egos and they stuck together through hard work. I dabbled in comp dota 1 with some of those guys and they are just on a completely different level nowadays. If they keep motivation and use their experience wisely they'll stay at the top You could have made a team out of these guys and competed with any euro/russian team. China wasn't really competing yet internationally. | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
north american dota teams back then were very analgous to north american starcraft 2 players. great in north america, but irrelevant in the international scene. i played fairly competitively (demon was on my team when he started blossoming) and would regularly get destroyed by clan mage (analogous to a top korean player). if you go back further, there were successful american teams, col and apex/jmc. that's where dogkaiser, poc, and indeed were from. shaang, daisy, fear, throzz, dominionwing...etc and hans2 | ||
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
On March 07 2012 21:04 NB wrote: digging darkseer jungle so far... you should be reaching lv 6 at the same time as solo mid if do it correctly @_@... sadly its a bit hard to gank using jungle darkseer... If anyone has any good method of ganking from jungle as darkseer please do tell... i think just run out with shell and chase them is a bit too risky and fragile (unless you have a good line up builld around DS which dont happen in pub) -_-... Also since ganking isnt guarantee money, sometime its better just to stay jungle ~_~... also how do you build DS item wise? I have been going mana boot lately but i did say some people bought the tranquil to get the early healing and void stone for mana instead. Core is always scepter into refresher :-/... 1 point shell, 1 point surge, shell yourself, surge to get up in their face, allied nuke, walk next to enemy. Dead enemy. Ion shell just does so much more dps than almost anything early game you should just kill them. You have equal movespeed so they can't run, and you out dps so they can't fight. Only thing they can do is disable you, and lane disable should help that. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 08 2012 19:40 lozarian wrote: 1 point shell, 1 point surge, shell yourself, surge to get up in their face, allied nuke, walk next to enemy. Dead enemy. Ion shell just does so much more dps than almost anything early game you should just kill them. You have equal movespeed so they can't run, and you out dps so they can't fight. Only thing they can do is disable you, and lane disable should help that. yeah im trying that atm but still its so risky as you are a squishy int swinging ur body toward the front line T_T.... i often shell yunero or tide and speed them up to lead for me =)).... | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
Edit: bungling =\= jungling. Screw you autocorrect. | ||
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StuartLove
Germany267 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
EDIT POST 1000................. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 08 2012 22:05 cecek wrote: Dark Seer is actually the tankiest hero on level 1, isn't he? Both his base strength and armor are one of the highest in the game. On base stats, probably. It gets hard to compare when you start considering the effect of various skills on "tankiness". | ||
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