EPTAm I going to get this experience in a Dota 2 community? I am extremely unfamiliar with Dota and their streaming numbers etc etc but I know I am looking for something that at least resembles the SC2 model currently.
Will I be dissapointed?
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esotericc
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Am I going to get this experience in a Dota 2 community? I am extremely unfamiliar with Dota and their streaming numbers etc etc but I know I am looking for something that at least resembles the SC2 model currently. Will I be dissapointed? | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2011 13:10 esotericc wrote: How is this going to translate into a structured community? I mean I get off work I am exhausted I log onto TL and load X stream of X event or X player and space out for four hours on streams/forums. Am I going to get this experience in a Dota 2 community? I am extremely unfamiliar with Dota and their streaming numbers etc etc but I know I am looking for something that at least resembles the SC2 model currently. Will I be dissapointed? that will be much harder because from sc2 stream you can learn the game from a first person point of view but in dota you cannot. This is a 10 players game and will be much harder to watch a game like that. But if you are into the game, not the player, you can use the future dotaTV to watch the game. It will be in VOD andddd game play in a sense that you can watch the game as like you are one of the observer obs-ing a live game. So i will find it much harder to find something like Destiny in dota2 but the overall obs feat. will be much better if you love the game and wana learn/play it. It could be compared to CS streams in a way. | ||
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esotericc
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On August 18 2011 13:17 NB wrote: that will be much harder because from sc2 stream you can learn the game from a first person point of view but in dota you cannot. This is a 10 players game and will be much harder to watch a game like that. But if you are into the game, not the player, you can use the future dotaTV to watch the game. It will be in VOD andddd game play in a sense that you can watch the game as like you are one of the observer obs-ing a live game. So i will find it much harder to find something like Destiny in dota2 but the overall obs feat. will be much better if you love the game and wana learn/play it. It could be compared to CS streams in a way. I am more concerned with the content being there to build a strong community, for example look at the TL sidebar, there are tons of SC streams. Are we going to see a similiar showcase out of dota 2 (might be hard to answer because of the dotaTV like you said) | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2011 13:20 esotericc wrote: I am more concerned with the content being there to build a strong community, for example look at the TL sidebar, there are tons of SC streams. Are we going to see a similiar showcase out of dota 2 (might be hard to answer because of the dotaTV like you said) well tbh dota2 communities wont be any good as sc2. SC2 is simply build based on BW community which was small and full of angels on earth while DotA is the first troll gaming community on earth. Everything about dota is trolling, yelling, flaming and trying to understand a non-english language argument. instead of TL side bar, i would compare dotaTV as something like teevox or wellplayedTV with special features to help you obs the game better. The showcase will be there and will be much higher level than sc2 show case but dota player's streams wont be as good as sc2 player's streams. | ||
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esotericc
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I am hoping to see Dota2 hit MLG at some point. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2011 14:48 esotericc wrote: Do you guys think the pro scene will get as good as SC's where you have 100,000$+ contracts and super good contracts in the US. I am hoping to see Dota2 hit MLG at some point. NA has never been into dota as much as asia and EU(russia, sweden for the most) and SEA. The skill avg on NA is really low and would be much much harder for them to catch up with other severs. It could happen one day but it will take time. My guess would be NA sticking with LoL while others will play dota2. | ||
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esotericc
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
If you get a group of mates, and the dotatv lets you hear what they're saying, then it could be quite good fun I guess. I tried to stream a game, and explain what and why I was doing what I was doing and when, and god it's hard, so much of the game is instinct and experience. | ||
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Kelberot
Brazil364 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2011 18:04 Kelberot wrote: God, I'm so disappointed at how the game looks like.. it's depressing. It really makes me cringe switching from dota to this... only for the "social" features. you have 4 option: stay in dota1, switch dota2, LoL and HoN  ... take it easy. | ||
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ilovelings
Argentina776 Posts
On August 18 2011 14:54 NB wrote: NA has never been into dota as much as asia and EU(russia, sweden for the most) and SEA. The skill avg on NA is really low and would be much much harder for them to catch up with other severs. It could happen one day but it will take time. My guess would be NA sticking with LoL while others will play dota2. this. User was warned for this post | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
DotA 2 not going to be released this year as initially stated, but I'm not sure if anybody is surprised judging by how incomplete the game looked at Gamescon and how well known Valve is for pushing back release dates. There is also some information concerning potential pricing. | ||
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
On August 18 2011 17:15 esotericc wrote: Now to decide if its worth my time to practice for Dota 2 or to attempt to keep getting better at Sc2 (gold on ladder, not going so well) Hey man, protip: Play whatever you enjoy the most. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:56 esotericc wrote: Well yea I know the game fairly well, I know about last hitting and denying and laning and jungling heroes and stuff but I don't really know the nitty gritty, was going to go read some guides tonight on them but my big issue was just getting out played. If u understand the basics, what's left is understanding the many ways of hero killing, which will also help you in getting killed less often. If you do not know what a hero can do, e.g. Mirana who can leap at you starfall shoot shoot possibly take out half your life instantly. Or Queen of Pain, blink in, scream, poison, shoot shoot, ulti wave - Die. Or Meepo, net, poof poof poof - Die. Sand King, spike, ulti - Die. Depends on your hero, life available, move speed, do you have a blink, forcestaff, wave, or other escape mechanism, etc. This knowledge also allows you to assess whether you can kill the enemy hero or not when they are out of position. Once you are low level n starting to feed/get pwned, you have to be careful and be less aggressive, stay near towers n strong team mates, farm lesser neutral creeps, etc. Good luck and hope you get your 1st triple kill, unstoppable and god-like streak in due course.  | ||
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esotericc
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On August 19 2011 06:25 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: Hey man, protip: Play whatever you enjoy the most. I enjoy both  I have been wanting to get into a competitive gaming scene since WoW arena (not very good), Played Dota long time ago before I picked up SC but the lack of ladder kind of killed it for me, got Sc2 enjoyed the scene but I am just terrible at RTS games and significantly better at decision making in a Dota style RTS.The only reason I play SC is because of the streams/community which is why I can't reliably start practicing dota before I know more about the scene sadly. With the addition of a ladder I would probably enjoy dota more. | ||
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On August 19 2011 10:34 AndyJay wrote: Does Linken's Sphere block Spectre's ulti? Linken's is a lot more common place in HoN (maybe cause it works on a lot more things), and when you're playing spec and 4 of the enemies heroes have Linken's it makes your ult almost useless. Doesn't block. As a general guide, Linken's sphere will block targeted skills only. There are a few exceptions but as a rule of thumb, if it's targeted, it'll block it, if it's global or targeted on the ground, it won't. Note: Exceptions usually refer to skills which aren't actually targeted, but as a part of the skill the game engine "targets" someone automatically, sometimes this only happens with a part of a skill, for instance, twin head-dragon's dual breath's damage will NOT get blocked at all, but the slow will. Note 2: With some skills, Linken's sphere "botches", as in, its cooldown activates but it blocks nothing, I'd expect these "bugs" to be removed from DotA2. For example, Nevermore's ulti activates the sphere's cooldown but blocks neither the damage, nor the slow. | ||
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