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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:10 Logarythm wrote: Oh, so it's not a Sentinel team versus a Scourge team? Do the affiliations matter for gameplay, then? in certain modes (classic, iirc) you can only pick heroes from your side, but you can pick heroes from either sides in the mode used for competitive play. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:05 Logarythm wrote: Noob here, Do Scourge and Sentinel basically have the same heroes, but with different names? Not anymore. It was something that stuck way back from the War3:ROC DotA era where each side could only pick heroes from their respective hero taverns. Then "-allpick" was introduced and the old convention went the way of the dodo. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote: Not anymore. It was something that stuck way back from the War3:ROC DotA era where each side could only pick heroes from their respective hero taverns. Then "-allpick" was introduced and the old convention went the way of the dodo. Even in the ROC era this was not exactly the case, except for the healers Soul Render and Purity's Disciple, but even then those two heroes differed. The differences in heroes is one of the many reasons why ROC DotA was considered imbalanced. The actual affiliations of the heroes, whether to Scourge or to Sentinel, are unimportant as both teams have access to all of the heroes. The only actual use the affiliations have is for the lore. | ||
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esotericc
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:45 esotericc wrote: Is there a way for a beginner to get involved? Played a few games in both dota and hon last night but just rage quit half way through because I was getting farmed and 90% of the people were pissed at me on my team. Don't get me wrong I use the builds and guides and know how to play somewhat just not pro and get ganked alot. try playing around in single player or an ai map for a little bit and get the hang of how things work, also read some guides, there are some basic ones at playdota.com also id prefer someone who is new and willing to learn than a leaver 100% of the time, seriously in a perfect world there would never be a leaver | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:52 BeanerBurrito wrote: try playing around in single player or an ai map for a little bit and get the hang of how things work, also read some guides, there are some basic ones at playdota.com also id prefer someone who is new and willing to learn than a leaver 100% of the time, seriously in a perfect world there would never be a leaver Well yea I know the game fairly well, I know about last hitting and denying and laning and jungling heroes and stuff but I don't really know the nitty gritty, was going to go read some guides tonight on them but my big issue was just getting out played. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:56 esotericc wrote: Well yea I know the game fairly well, I know about last hitting and denying and laning and jungling heroes and stuff but I don't really know the nitty gritty, was going to go read some guides tonight on them but my big issue was just getting out played. on what platform do you play? | ||
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:56 esotericc wrote: Well yea I know the game fairly well, I know about last hitting and denying and laning and jungling heroes and stuff but I don't really know the nitty gritty, was going to go read some guides tonight on them but my big issue was just getting out played. at the core dota is a game of making your opponent think they can kill you, when actually you can kill them, which comes from experience, if you keep playing and actually try you will get better | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
I was jumping between dota and HON. Just getting ready for dota 2 | ||
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Omegastorm
102 Posts
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
One of the things i hate about LoL is how rigid upper level strategy is, for instance, there is only one lane setup. i read this and was impressed that there are so many different laning setups. seems like it would make for very interesting macro strategy. but is this strategy malleable? do people think up new cool team compositions and lane combinations, or unique new ways to play the game? or is it kind of set in stone now? | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
so you seriously have to think creatively about all your opponents and their skills and your own team every time you play, from the beginning? that never happens in LoL until big team fights | ||
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
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andy186
Australia1058 Posts
On August 17 2011 16:16 Attakijing wrote: LoL scrub here. One of the things i hate about LoL is how rigid upper level strategy is, for instance, there is only one lane setup. i read this and was impressed that there are so many different laning setups. seems like it would make for very interesting macro strategy. but is this strategy malleable? do people think up new cool team compositions and lane combinations, or unique new ways to play the game? or is it kind of set in stone now? I haven't played dota in like 3 years play a bit of hon these days It is kind of similar to how the sc metagame works people will try builds and they will generally either fail miserably or work out and then the team they vs will have to compensate later by either banning that hero or trying to play a style to counter it further changing their playstyle. There is of course the basic common matchups and so forth but with what close to 90 heroes now there can still be insane amounts of variation | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
On August 17 2011 12:50 zoLo wrote: Does anyone want to form a little clan in HoN? This is for mainly newer players who want to play on a team that is more noob friendly and won't have to worry about getting insulted. me! but i'm in europe  if some other EU noobs are interested send me a pm! preferably some that are ok at LoL like me On August 17 2011 17:19 andy186 wrote: I haven't played dota in like 3 years play a bit of hon these days It is kind of similar to how the sc metagame works people will try builds and they will generally either fail miserably or work out and then the team they vs will have to compensate later by either banning that hero or trying to play a style to counter it further changing their playstyle. There is of course the basic common matchups and so forth but with what close to 90 heroes now there can still be insane amounts of variation how would you coordinate anything like this in solo queue? it seems impossible. but it sounds really fun if you know 4 other people to play with. | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
http://i.imgur.com/STKIJ.png | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Interview with Valve's Erik Johnson. Not an exciting one but could be used for FAQ. btw reddit.com/r/dota2 is getting exciting | ||
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