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Karrmin
Profile Joined March 2010
Brazil27 Posts
August 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#181
anyone know if they will keep the deny mechanic?
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
August 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#182
On August 17 2011 03:50 Karrmin wrote:
anyone know if they will keep the deny mechanic?

lol yes of course they will
Karrmin
Profile Joined March 2010
Brazil27 Posts
August 16 2011 18:54 GMT
#183
thank god :D(i was asking because i`ve been told u cant deny in lol since i dont play i coudnt see if its true or not)
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 16 2011 19:45 GMT
#184
I played a little LoL and some original dota back in the day. I enjoyed them but the learning curve is huge and if you aren't amazing then all you do is get shit on by your teammates.

If this game treats new players better (better matchmaking for example) then I could see myself playing it a lot.
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
August 16 2011 19:49 GMT
#185
On August 17 2011 04:45 On_Slaught wrote:
I played a little LoL and some original dota back in the day. I enjoyed them but the learning curve is huge and if you aren't amazing then all you do is get shit on by your teammates.

If this game treats new players better (better matchmaking for example) then I could see myself playing it a lot.


That or you could start playing with the wave of new players when the game comes out. There will be thousands of noobs then. Even if it's and AoS genre game, that the heroes and skills resemble the original DotA All-Stars, there will still be a learning curve for everyone. Your best hope would be playing the game as much as you can when it comes out so you don't fall behind.

...That or, as you said, a very well thought matchmaking system .
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 16 2011 19:51 GMT
#186
Even if I did start playing at the start I shouldn't then, as a veteran playe, have to worry about newbs coming into my games and fucking things up like you see in the other games. It all comes down to the matchmaking.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
August 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#187
On August 17 2011 04:51 On_Slaught wrote:
Even if I did start playing at the start I shouldn't then, as a veteran playe, have to worry about newbs coming into my games and fucking things up like you see in the other games. It all comes down to the matchmaking.


So you basically want an option when installing the game for the first time that asks for your experience in the genre/game? Going from beginner to advanced (where advanced is those that know all the heroes, their skills, some item builds for those heroes and all items in the game [ie, the minimum needed to play all random at a decent level]).

Which then splits up the playing field at the start, which then merges as people drop/increase in rating.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
August 16 2011 20:00 GMT
#188
On August 17 2011 04:56 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 04:51 On_Slaught wrote:
Even if I did start playing at the start I shouldn't then, as a veteran playe, have to worry about newbs coming into my games and fucking things up like you see in the other games. It all comes down to the matchmaking.


So you basically want an option when installing the game for the first time that asks for your experience in the genre/game? Going from beginner to advanced (where advanced is those that know all the heroes, their skills, some item builds for those heroes and all items in the game [ie, the minimum needed to play all random at a decent level]).

Which then splits up the playing field at the start, which then merges as people drop/increase in rating.


Sounds like a legit idea or?!

Anyways , pumping irons tonight so i can master jakiro like a pro when he comes out! One gotta be strong to master the two headed dragon!
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
August 16 2011 20:07 GMT
#189
btw.. tonight SotG at 5.30 a.m. straight into GC :D
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
August 16 2011 20:14 GMT
#190
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
August 16 2011 20:17 GMT
#191
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Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
August 16 2011 20:19 GMT
#192
On August 17 2011 05:17 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?

Yes, but if you survive the initial weeks of learning, you'll be ok, try finding some people you trust to play with, teamwork is the most important thing, having fun and not being flamed is just a bonus.


I've played LoL as a casual game in between starcraft so I understand the basic mechanics, but I understand DOTA is much, much harder (which is good). I don't suppose anyone in this thread would be willing to play a game or two with me? I have a teamspeak server.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
August 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#193
On August 17 2011 05:19 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:17 Dattish wrote:
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?

Yes, but if you survive the initial weeks of learning, you'll be ok, try finding some people you trust to play with, teamwork is the most important thing, having fun and not being flamed is just a bonus.


I've played LoL as a casual game in between starcraft so I understand the basic mechanics, but I understand DOTA is much, much harder (which is good). I don't suppose anyone in this thread would be willing to play a game or two with me? I have a teamspeak server.


I will obviously have little time in the upcoming days, but feel free to shoot me a pm some time after. We can start off with some games on the AI map. I'll gladly help you around
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
August 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#194
On August 17 2011 05:22 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:19 Trowa127 wrote:
On August 17 2011 05:17 Dattish wrote:
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?

Yes, but if you survive the initial weeks of learning, you'll be ok, try finding some people you trust to play with, teamwork is the most important thing, having fun and not being flamed is just a bonus.


I've played LoL as a casual game in between starcraft so I understand the basic mechanics, but I understand DOTA is much, much harder (which is good). I don't suppose anyone in this thread would be willing to play a game or two with me? I have a teamspeak server.


I will obviously have little time in the upcoming days, but feel free to shoot me a pm some time after. We can start off with some games on the AI map. I'll gladly help you around


I can also help out. After gamescon. :p
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
August 16 2011 20:26 GMT
#195
Thanks guys. I won't have Internet at my new place till Friday anyway (posting from work T_T) so that works out fine. I'll PM both of you when I download it, thanks for the kind offers. Certainly not the elitist, evil community everyone harps on about.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 20:28:00
August 16 2011 20:27 GMT
#196
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?


I actually have the same question, however at this point only hardcore dota players still play the original dota maybe. With dota2 release, there might be a whole wave of newcomers who have to learn the game ( like you and me) and we wont stand out as much

plus: i signed up for the beta, if i get in than hopefully i'll be familiar with the basics when it comes out for real.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
August 16 2011 20:30 GMT
#197
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Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
August 16 2011 20:35 GMT
#198
On August 17 2011 05:27 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?


I actually have the same question, however at this point only hardcore dota players still play the original dota maybe. With dota2 release, there might be a whole wave of newcomers who have to learn the game ( like you and me) and we wont stand out as much

plus: i signed up for the beta, if i get in than hopefully i'll be familiar with the basics when it comes out for real.


This really isn't the case. DotA1 is much more like CS 1.6 than BW in terms of community; there's plenty of pretty bad or inexperienced players. Granted it'll be hard to find ones that aren't familiar with all of the heroes and most of the items nowadays.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 16 2011 20:39 GMT
#199
On August 17 2011 05:00 Angryhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 04:56 Yurie wrote:
On August 17 2011 04:51 On_Slaught wrote:
Even if I did start playing at the start I shouldn't then, as a veteran playe, have to worry about newbs coming into my games and fucking things up like you see in the other games. It all comes down to the matchmaking.


So you basically want an option when installing the game for the first time that asks for your experience in the genre/game? Going from beginner to advanced (where advanced is those that know all the heroes, their skills, some item builds for those heroes and all items in the game [ie, the minimum needed to play all random at a decent level]).

Which then splits up the playing field at the start, which then merges as people drop/increase in rating.


Sounds like a legit idea or?!

Anyways , pumping irons tonight so i can master jakiro like a pro when he comes out! One gotta be strong to master the two headed dragon!

The problem is I know boat load of people who claim they know dota and pretty good at it, then proceed to feed all the way.

Veterans are not always that good. If they're good, their rating will rase sooner or later.
iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
August 16 2011 20:46 GMT
#200
I hope the teacher/student system Valve talked about for some time will be implemented at beta launch. Would really like to teach others to play
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