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s_side
United States700 Posts
I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester. I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18. When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi. | ||
CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote: It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person. I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester. I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18. When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi. You should definitely keep yourself safe from Afghan terrorists. Results would be even more unthinkable than Tony Stark getting kidnapped, because they would force you to entertain them by playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi on top of having you build advanced weaponry. | ||
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Scruff
Singapore509 Posts
Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea. So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard. | ||
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hongo
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sebusca
United States72 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:22 Darkren wrote: U sound like u need a psychologue and not quitting school and being stuck infront of a computer alone all day. Reconsider what makes u happy in life and seek some help. ur engrish es gud mi frend | ||
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sebusca
United States72 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:03 Scruff wrote: Honestly the main problem with full time DotA 2 is a team. Yes, individual skill matters, but teamwork is as important if not more, than individual skills. Will you be able to find 4 other person who is online with you every single time to train together? Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea. So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard. EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote: It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person. I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester. I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18. When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi. Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote: Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that Holy shit I heard there were people on the internet as stupid as you, but I didn't know it was true. | ||
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n0tjack
8 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote: Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that I had faith someone like you would show up. | ||
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Zhul
Czech Republic430 Posts
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
On December 14 2011 15:55 CountChocula wrote: You should definitely keep yourself safe from Afghan terrorists. Results would be even more unthinkable than Tony Stark getting kidnapped, because they would force you to entertain them by playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi on top of having you build advanced weaponry. hahaha these two posts made my day :D | ||
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Ognam
United States798 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote: Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that *wooosh* | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:53 sebusca wrote: EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background. You still play? | ||
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ducethrower
United States21 Posts
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rohanim41
Canada60 Posts
also you can't "win tournaments" alone when it's teams that register. If it was starcraft 2, I would say GO DO IT. but this is a team game, you can't hope to win alone not matter how good you are. Be the next fucking einstein instead. | ||
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mczbot
Germany70 Posts
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
On December 15 2011 13:16 rohanim41 wrote: Your are going solo on a team game. Scruff made an argument that DOTA games are TEAM games. you can be the chuck noris of HoN but if you have 4 bad teamates you can't win. also you can't "win tournaments" alone when it's teams that register. If it was starcraft 2, I would say GO DO IT. but this is a team game, you can't hope to win alone not matter how good you are. Be the next fucking einstein instead. LOL | ||
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Tal
United Kingdom1015 Posts
Why not take a year out and try and follow your dreams? Now seems a good time to try, and if it fails you can just go back, perhaps refreshed and more excited about your course. | ||
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DeviousAlpha
United Kingdom8 Posts
Finish the degree, then do this. If the money drops out of dota, or your skill lessens as you age, or you don't find the right team, of valve end up being cunts, or etc etc... My mother always said to me while growing up, "Son, do what you love and you won't be sad. But get a good qualification just in case. If you get your degree and then tell me you want to be a rubbish collector for the rest of your days, then I'm fine with that, just have a backup plan." When I was 18 I didn't want to attend university, I'd had enough education. But I took a backup plan, I applied for a deferred entry (1 year gap) and then got a solid job earning way more than anyone I knew. Was 18 years old on 26k pounds a year, with car and phone supplied. Rolling in the money. Before I started the job I had some pretty badly conceived notions about what it was like and after 7 months I was sick of it. But I realized something, "Shit I don't have any qualifications I can't get another job even though I don't like this line of work." That job was in sales, and I was sick of sales. Trouble is with no qualification you can only work as what you have experience in... oh shit thats sales! In your case when your gaming skill fades you won't have anything else on the table that you can do. There'll be no relevant experience either... The degree gives flexibility, it shows you can apply yourself to something for 4-5 years through all the bad/good of it and come out with a finished product. In my case I had made a backup plan and when the original plan fell through I had nothing to fear and attended university like any other student. You say you can go back to college, but what if dota is good for the first year? And you choose not to. What about 5 years down the line when you're not as good as you are now? Its well known age negatively effects play past about 22. What about if the tournaments don't put out as much money as is really neccessary to have a good life? After all you have to split the winnings between 5 compared with no one in starcraft. Meaning the investiture needs to either be 5 times the amount (never going to happen, ever) or you need to win, every match all the time regardless of if your team mates have a bad day. If you have a degree you still have an option if your skill fades. If it doesn't no worries, but you don't know that for sure. TL;DR - Follow your dreams, but always have a backup plan. Money can't buy you happiness, but poverty will definitely make you sad. Your placing your own income not just in your own hands, but in the hands of the other 4 people in your team. Unless you find others who are willing to give the same level of determination and skill as yourself, and come with the same "this is my income/life/job" attitude, then you should be looking at SC2/SC not DotA2. Dota2 cant go on a CV in 10 years, a degree still can. So get the degree, and then play and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out at least you have the degree to whack on a CV later. GL with whatever choice you make, always enjoyed watching you play even if it was like 90% soulstealer and defiler (lololol) | ||
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Scruff
Singapore509 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:53 sebusca wrote: EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background. So what if he was a top tier HoN player? Firstly, its goddamn HoN which, at the top level is vastly different from DotA 2. Mind you, even DotA 1 is very different from 2. Secondly, good if he can find a team. But will it be a good team? Is everyone in the team going to quit school to play full time too? You don't get my point do you? They need to practice together to really break into the top top level which of course he needs to achieve so as to make his "sacrifice for uni" worth it. | ||
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