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s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
December 14 2011 06:33 GMT
#341
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.

CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 07:11:15
December 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#342
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.


You should definitely keep yourself safe from Afghan terrorists. Results would be even more unthinkable than Tony Stark getting kidnapped, because they would force you to entertain them by playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi on top of having you build advanced weaponry.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
Scruff
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore509 Posts
December 14 2011 15:03 GMT
#343
Honestly the main problem with full time DotA 2 is a team. Yes, individual skill matters, but teamwork is as important if not more, than individual skills. Will you be able to find 4 other person who is online with you every single time to train together?

Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea.

So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard.
I astonish myself everyday
hongo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
207 Posts
December 14 2011 15:19 GMT
#344
Well, you're chasing a dream, I can't take that away! GL HF!
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
December 14 2011 23:52 GMT
#345
On December 10 2011 11:22 Darkren wrote:
U sound like u need a psychologue and not quitting school and being stuck infront of a computer alone all day.

Reconsider what makes u happy in life and seek some help.



ur engrish es gud mi frend
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
December 14 2011 23:53 GMT
#346
On December 15 2011 00:03 Scruff wrote:
Honestly the main problem with full time DotA 2 is a team. Yes, individual skill matters, but teamwork is as important if not more, than individual skills. Will you be able to find 4 other person who is online with you every single time to train together?

Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea.

So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard.


EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
December 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#347
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.



Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#348
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.



Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that


Holy shit I heard there were people on the internet as stupid as you, but I didn't know it was true.
White-Ra fighting!
n0tjack
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
December 15 2011 00:15 GMT
#349
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.



Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that


I had faith someone like you would show up.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
December 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#350
Lol I wish I could do such a choices :D
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
December 15 2011 00:26 GMT
#351
On December 14 2011 15:55 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.


You should definitely keep yourself safe from Afghan terrorists. Results would be even more unthinkable than Tony Stark getting kidnapped, because they would force you to entertain them by playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi on top of having you build advanced weaponry.



hahaha these two posts made my day :D
Ognam
Profile Joined October 2011
United States798 Posts
December 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#352
On December 15 2011 09:09 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 15:33 s_side wrote:
It seems like a lot of people in this thread are blowing things out of proportion. Anyone who is not capable of achieving academic goals while being a premiere Dota player is simply an inferior person.

I am currently enrolled as an undergraduate at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and MIT (concurrently). I take a moderate course load of 48 credit hours per semester.

I am planning on having completed my PhDs in Nuclear Engineering and Physics, as well as my M.D. and J.D. by the time I am 18.

When I'm not turning down offers from sponsored DoTA teams, I enjoy oil painting, playing classical guitar and making dessert sushi.



Such bullshit it's incredible, So ur gonna finish a PHD a M.D and J.D while being a top Dota player learning guitar and making sushi. Ur gonna do that all before 18..... can we know ur secret identity cause this is the most bullshit i ever read no one can do that

*wooosh*
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
December 15 2011 00:47 GMT
#353
On December 15 2011 08:53 sebusca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:03 Scruff wrote:
Honestly the main problem with full time DotA 2 is a team. Yes, individual skill matters, but teamwork is as important if not more, than individual skills. Will you be able to find 4 other person who is online with you every single time to train together?

Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea.

So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard.


EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background.


You still play?
Hell in my head
ducethrower
Profile Joined December 2011
United States21 Posts
December 15 2011 02:40 GMT
#354
I wish you luck and I hope you make it as a professional dota 2 player
rohanim41
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada60 Posts
December 15 2011 04:16 GMT
#355
Your are going solo on a team game. Scruff made an argument that DOTA games are TEAM games. you can be the chuck noris of HoN but if you have 4 bad teamates you can't win.

also you can't "win tournaments" alone when it's teams that register. If it was starcraft 2, I would say GO DO IT. but this is a team game, you can't hope to win alone not matter how good you are.

Be the next fucking einstein instead.
It's just a game.... but it's a damn good game !
mczbot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany70 Posts
December 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#356
as much as i love twitch/justin as a viewer, it would make more sense for you to stream over own3d. not just do they pay a little better (thus is why destiny recently moved over to own3d), they also allow you to run up to 3 commercials in a row, which is way better for a dota player due to the longer games
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
December 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#357
On December 15 2011 13:16 rohanim41 wrote:
Your are going solo on a team game. Scruff made an argument that DOTA games are TEAM games. you can be the chuck noris of HoN but if you have 4 bad teamates you can't win.

also you can't "win tournaments" alone when it's teams that register. If it was starcraft 2, I would say GO DO IT. but this is a team game, you can't hope to win alone not matter how good you are.

Be the next fucking einstein instead.


LOL
Hell in my head
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1017 Posts
December 15 2011 09:16 GMT
#358
Unlike most people who post these 'progamer' threads, you have already proven you are a good player, and have shown you have the general work ethic/intelligence, to get into one of the best universities in the world. So taking time off to play DOTA seriously isn't some escapist cop-out, but rather the choice of someone who, so far, has shown they know what they're doing.

Why not take a year out and try and follow your dreams? Now seems a good time to try, and if it fails you can just go back, perhaps refreshed and more excited about your course.

It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
DeviousAlpha
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 15:05:31
December 15 2011 15:00 GMT
#359
Straight up heres my advice to you:

Finish the degree, then do this. If the money drops out of dota, or your skill lessens as you age, or you don't find the right team, of valve end up being cunts, or etc etc...

My mother always said to me while growing up, "Son, do what you love and you won't be sad. But get a good qualification just in case. If you get your degree and then tell me you want to be a rubbish collector for the rest of your days, then I'm fine with that, just have a backup plan."

When I was 18 I didn't want to attend university, I'd had enough education. But I took a backup plan, I applied for a deferred entry (1 year gap) and then got a solid job earning way more than anyone I knew. Was 18 years old on 26k pounds a year, with car and phone supplied. Rolling in the money. Before I started the job I had some pretty badly conceived notions about what it was like and after 7 months I was sick of it. But I realized something, "Shit I don't have any qualifications I can't get another job even though I don't like this line of work." That job was in sales, and I was sick of sales. Trouble is with no qualification you can only work as what you have experience in... oh shit thats sales! In your case when your gaming skill fades you won't have anything else on the table that you can do. There'll be no relevant experience either... The degree gives flexibility, it shows you can apply yourself to something for 4-5 years through all the bad/good of it and come out with a finished product. In my case I had made a backup plan and when the original plan fell through I had nothing to fear and attended university like any other student.

You say you can go back to college, but what if dota is good for the first year? And you choose not to. What about 5 years down the line when you're not as good as you are now? Its well known age negatively effects play past about 22. What about if the tournaments don't put out as much money as is really neccessary to have a good life? After all you have to split the winnings between 5 compared with no one in starcraft. Meaning the investiture needs to either be 5 times the amount (never going to happen, ever) or you need to win, every match all the time regardless of if your team mates have a bad day. If you have a degree you still have an option if your skill fades. If it doesn't no worries, but you don't know that for sure.

TL;DR - Follow your dreams, but always have a backup plan. Money can't buy you happiness, but poverty will definitely make you sad. Your placing your own income not just in your own hands, but in the hands of the other 4 people in your team. Unless you find others who are willing to give the same level of determination and skill as yourself, and come with the same "this is my income/life/job" attitude, then you should be looking at SC2/SC not DotA2. Dota2 cant go on a CV in 10 years, a degree still can. So get the degree, and then play and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out at least you have the degree to whack on a CV later.

GL with whatever choice you make, always enjoyed watching you play even if it was like 90% soulstealer and defiler (lololol)
Scruff
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore509 Posts
December 15 2011 16:49 GMT
#360
On December 15 2011 08:53 sebusca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:03 Scruff wrote:
Honestly the main problem with full time DotA 2 is a team. Yes, individual skill matters, but teamwork is as important if not more, than individual skills. Will you be able to find 4 other person who is online with you every single time to train together?

Let me tell you I have friends who are really high up there in DotA and they go to school too. By high I mean the top few teams in the world. But they still aren't able to win the China team. Why? Because of their teamwork. China team has impeccable teamwork. That is the main difference between China team and other teams. In China I believe they have teamhouses where team mates stay and train together like Starcraft in Korea.

So my advice to you would be, stay in Uni man. You can still play DotA and be good at it. If you want to be the best though, you are going to need 4 more person as dedicated as you are. Even with that it is going to be hard.


EternalEnvy was a top tier HoN player. No doubt he can find a team. So you probably shouldn't make these type of comments if you don't know his background.



So what if he was a top tier HoN player? Firstly, its goddamn HoN which, at the top level is vastly different from DotA 2. Mind you, even DotA 1 is very different from 2. Secondly, good if he can find a team. But will it be a good team? Is everyone in the team going to quit school to play full time too? You don't get my point do you? They need to practice together to really break into the top top level which of course he needs to achieve so as to make his "sacrifice for uni" worth it.
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