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droit
Profile Joined January 2011
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 17:13:45
December 15 2011 17:11 GMT
#361
Where do you plan on getting 1000 viewers?

It isn't just a number or a score, that's a thousand people who's interest you need to get and maintain for 8 hours a day if you want to make a living off of this. Assuming you play 4 ads in between each game.

I think you are delusional.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/581701/1/Adroit/
_hate
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Japan112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 17:20:55
December 15 2011 17:20 GMT
#362
some people do show multiple ads per hour, while queuing for the next game
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 17:33:05
December 15 2011 17:30 GMT
#363
On December 16 2011 02:11 droit wrote:
Where do you plan on getting 1000 viewers?

It isn't just a number or a score, that's a thousand people who's interest you need to get and maintain for 8 hours a day if you want to make a living off of this. Assuming you play 4 ads in between each game.

I think you are delusional.

How can you say he's delusional? He's said that he's trying it out to see what happens and if worst comes to worst, then he'll go back to school. His HoN/DotA background could easily net him 1000 viewers, though he'd obviously have to work his way up to that mark with an entertaining stream (music/commentary and whatnot) and constant and consistent stream hours. It's definitely unlikely that he'd be able to make enough money initially to "make a living" but who knows, if he gets an opportunity to play on a competitive DotA 2 team then it's certainly not out of the question.

Hope to see you online, I'll probably be playing under the name "aif" but who knows.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
December 15 2011 17:36 GMT
#364
I think most of the people in this thread didn't even read the fucking OP. As far as I'm concerned I'd watch YanagiNagi stream again that guy was so good in HoN then just disappeared. I fully support your decision and it's not like you can't finish your degree afterwards. As far as streaming goes I'd try to get a hold of Korok or Zaku they seem to bring in quite a few numbers and if I'm not mistaken Zaku is on DWi/Jokes on You/Complexity(even though breaky and phil got their sponsorship pulled)
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Heff87
Profile Joined November 2011
United States106 Posts
December 15 2011 19:31 GMT
#365
Just finishing up grad school myself and the job market really sucks right now, if you can make some money for the time being and go back to school to finish your degree in a few years when things improve, that would be a good way to go.
VGTA
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 15 2011 20:53 GMT
#366
dont do it, dont quit school, it will be the worst decision of your life. im speaking from personal experience. DONT DO IT
Kinshuk
Profile Joined February 2011
India116 Posts
December 16 2011 00:45 GMT
#367
I'm not gonna judge whatever you end up doing... i probably would do the gaming thing too BUT I don't think you're considering the making money thing enough. You need atleast a few thousand viewers to make a decent amount of money from streaming 10+ hours a day. I would advise you to think of ways to gain more veiwers before you do this or theres just no point in streaming.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
December 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#368
I get that engineering science is hard (I went to UofT and have about a dozen friends that were in engsci)... but you really should just finish your degree first. It gets exponentially harder to get back into school every year you're out of it. Your grades will suffer dramatically if you even take a single year off. As an engsci graduate (especially if you do PEY), you'll start off making $50k+. And with grades in the 80s, you're a bit more than decent.

Anyways, that's my elderly advice. So let's go to talking about some of your concerns themselves.

2 commercials between games isn't a big deal. Hell 3 isn't either. Especially considering the fact that by April there will probably be some in-house leagues that'll take 5 minutes or more to set up a game anyways.

You should also be aware that you will need thousands of viewers to get any remotely reasonable income from streaming. You have to realize there are many people that use adblock, not everyone gets an ad everytime you hit that commercial button and the rates in general aren't great. Streaming to 1000 viewers with only 4-5 commercials an hour isn't exactly huge money. You're looking at probably $5 an hour in that system. You'd want to break at least 1k viewers consistently to have enough money to sort of live off of (but ideally 2k). Suggestion would be to include as much commentary as possible when you're playing. Explain why you're buying certain items, what you're afraid of from the enemy, why you chose a hero... absolutely anything and everything you can to boost the marketability of your stream.

But just think about how hard this is going to be. Many popular DotA pros streaming on TL can barely break 1k (while featured). You won't be featured. It'll be hard to advertise your stream. You better provide something they don't.

About coaching, not going to happen yet. This game isn't that widespread yet. Maybe when the game releases, you'll be able to find people that want coaching. But it won't be easy. It is much harder to coach someone in DotA than it is SC2. More importantly, anyone that's serious about DotA probably knows some people that are better than them that can help them improve.

Anyways, streaming 10-13 hours a day and being entertaining while you do it... I think it's possible to make enough money to get by (albeit unlikely). But I'd plan on living with your parents and save money wherever possible. I'd also start streaming ASAP and maybe only doing a few hours a week for the rest of the school year. Hopefully you can build a bit of a following in that time frame.

Good luck.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
December 16 2011 21:34 GMT
#369

I get that engineering science is hard (I went to UofT and have about a dozen friends that were in engsci)... but you really should just finish your degree first. It gets exponentially harder to get back into school every year you're out of it. Your grades will suffer dramatically if you even take a single year off. As an engsci graduate (especially if you do PEY), you'll start off making $50k+. And with grades in the 80s, you're a bit more than decent.


This + if you're playing semi-competitive at the moment with free time why not keep going with that and build up your name + hype. Would be a lot more prudent and you have the option of playing over the summer hardcore and deciding then.
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 21:54:36
December 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#370
Yup. Use the summer as a gauge. If you realize you can get viewer numbers and earn a reasonable income, only then should you even remotely consider taking time off school.

Take a look at someone like qxc. He's not going SC2 full-time until he's done his degree. There's no reason you should stop halfway through something that is a pretty big investment.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 16 2011 22:45 GMT
#371
IMHO If you can get word out there that you're "that guy who was top 5 in HoN" you can easily get more than 1k viewers, making this possible.

Also, it's not uncommon for people in LoL to show 3 ads while inbetween games.
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
December 16 2011 23:03 GMT
#372
If you want to try this, do it now while you still have options like living with your parents and getting cheaper health insurance through their plan. After graduating this sort of thing becomes significantly more difficult. Also, if you're not really focused on being an engineer, it's better to take some time off and do what you want to do so that if/when you do come back to your studies it's because you want to do it and can be excited about learning.

Taking time off school isn't dropping out. Plenty of universities will suspend your enrollment for a year (sometimes more) while you do other things. Not everyone is a kid coming out of high school with nothing better to do than go to college. Sometimes people can't afford school, sometimes they have more pressing concerns, etc. Take a shot. If you were that good at HoN and you know a good group of people to play DotA 2 with, you'll never regret traveling around the world playing video games and putting off college for a year or two.
Soet
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden66 Posts
December 17 2011 01:26 GMT
#373
If you was somewhat famous in hon you could probably get a decent amount of viewers to start off with. And i take by what you wrote that you would gain a quite high mmr fast and get matched with some of the better players out there and if you show that you can deliver once there it should be no problem GL
Not Good Just Better Than You
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
October 24 2012 02:40 GMT
#374
Just wanted to do some quick thread necro. Does anyone know what this guy did? Does he play Dota 2 now?
White-Ra fighting!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 24 2012 02:48 GMT
#375
I think I saw him streaming on occasion. Feels like he plays but not too often, so I wager he probably stayed in school. Good decision I think, not sure how streaming can pay for anything in toronto.. hell I don't even think it'd cover rent.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
October 24 2012 02:57 GMT
#376
I'm interested aswell. And to all the school fanatics.. fuck you!
Not even death can save you from me.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 03:20:56
October 24 2012 03:17 GMT
#377
On October 24 2012 11:40 m3rciless wrote:
Just wanted to do some quick thread necro. Does anyone know what this guy did? Does he play Dota 2 now?


Qualified for ESWC with his team, No Tidehunter. Although apparently nobody but Black^ can go so ex-Mouz is replacing them or something like that.

NTH Roster off the top of my head:

EternaLEnVy
Admiral Bulldog
S4
Kizzles
Black^
QuiX- (?)
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
October 24 2012 03:19 GMT
#378
Shouldn't you get picked up by a team first before u consider doing something like this? If i recall correctly, dota 2 =/= single player
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 24 2012 03:19 GMT
#379
On October 24 2012 11:40 m3rciless wrote:
Just wanted to do some quick thread necro. Does anyone know what this guy did? Does he play Dota 2 now?

he is/was on notidehunter, dunno what happened to that team as i heard GD B replaced them in ESWC?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 24 2012 03:20 GMT
#380
i dropped out of school back when i was 18 (im 24 now) it was the worst decision of my life. sure i played in online dota tourny like htgnpro, was in cal-m for source, and got gladiator 3x in wow and sold my account for 600dollars but that was by far the stupidest shit ive done in my life.

now im back in 2nd year university and it is not nearly as fun as the first time. you'd think sleeping with hot 19 year olds will make you feel better but it doesnt. and my best friend who now earns 200k per year and drives a bmw had to make me feel weird by reminding me of the fact that when i was 18 those girls were 14

to conclude: unless you are stupidly good and join a professional team and win big tournys (which 99.99% of gamers are not capable of) dropping out of school will also be the dumbest decision you will make in your life.
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