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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 30 2013 00:15 GMT
#2501
On August 30 2013 08:55 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:45 Kosak wrote:
thats just completely wrong, alliance is less dependent on big moves by loda because they just dont need them, theyre playing slower style with more farming time while the rest of the team is creating a huge amount of space all around the map

na'vis style is way more reckless, very dependent onto almost outrageously aggressive play from xboct, with the latest changes to the dota itself the mid role isnt as deciding as it used to be so na'vis success = credit to xboct


This is a pretty good point. Bulldog usually ends up with more gold than Loda does at the end of their longer games. And they tend to stretch games out pretty long most of the time so more than just Loda can get that farm, unless they are dominating early.


There is no shame in having less GPM than profit.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 30 2013 00:18 GMT
#2502
Looks like Flipside Tactics (old Absolute Legends/Mania & Miggel's team) are going to announce a new roster soon.

TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 30 2013 00:49 GMT
#2503
On August 30 2013 09:18 pdd wrote:
Looks like Flipside Tactics (old Absolute Legends/Mania & Miggel's team) are going to announce a new roster soon.

https://twitter.com/Indiefinch/status/373158768189534209

Danny D just needs to get a few signatures from Dendi and Burning to make it complete.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 30 2013 00:55 GMT
#2504
On August 30 2013 07:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 06:37 MrHoon wrote:
I don't think Loda is bad at all
He's just an easy target for people because all the other 4 players in Alliance shine so damn bright.

Loda is also a carry who is willing to make sacrifices for his team, which is a rare but undervalued quality among carry players.

To be willing to sacrifice his own development trusting that his team can make use of the greater farm/levels that his team gets requires a tremendous amount of trust in his team. Likewise it requires trust from his team that he can make back his disadvantage with the space they give him later.

Most teams tend to baby their carries super hard, and give them the best possible situation. It's rare that a team will be willing to sacrifice their carry in favor of the other 4, and it's rarer that the carry will be good at playing out that situation and becoming the most farmed again anyway. Even among the top tier Chinese carries, only Zhou and Burning could be said to have exhibited this quality, and Zhou's form has been poor lately (LGD.CN has always babied Sylar really hard, which has always been the dealbreaker for me in calling him "the best carry"--we've simply never seen him in a scenario where he's made those sacrifices).


Like Mouz; their success often correlates with how well he does in a game because they often have no fallback.
treeqt
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany237 Posts
August 30 2013 01:05 GMT
#2505
On August 30 2013 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:42 TheYango wrote:
On August 30 2013 06:37 MrHoon wrote:
I don't think Loda is bad at all
He's just an easy target for people because all the other 4 players in Alliance shine so damn bright.

Loda is also a carry who is willing to make sacrifices for his team, which is a rare but undervalued quality among carry players.

To be willing to sacrifice his own development trusting that his team can make use of the greater farm/levels that his team gets requires a tremendous amount of trust in his team. Likewise it requires trust from his team that he can make back his disadvantage with the space they give him later.

Most teams tend to baby their carries super hard, and give them the best possible situation. It's rare that a team will be willing to sacrifice their carry in favor of the other 4, and it's rarer that the carry will be good at playing out that situation and becoming the most farmed again anyway. Even among the top tier Chinese carries, only Zhou and Burning could be said to have exhibited this quality, and Zhou's form has been poor lately (LGD.CN has always babied Sylar really hard, which has always been the dealbreaker for me in calling him "the best carry"--we've simply never seen him in a scenario where he's made those sacrifices).


Like Mouz; their success often correlates with how well he does in a game because they often have no fallback.


When was the last time you watched a mouz game? The vast majority of the games during their dominant phase leading up to TI3 were won by either fata, qojqva or both going total ham. Black has hit a wall a long time ago and hasn't really improved since. That showed especially during TI3. Among other things.
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
August 30 2013 01:06 GMT
#2506
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#2507
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.


source?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 30 2013 01:16 GMT
#2508
On August 30 2013 10:08 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.


source?


Look at my post on the previous page.
secret - never again
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 30 2013 01:23 GMT
#2509
On August 30 2013 10:16 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:08 zaii wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.


source?


Look at my post on the previous page.


no recorded audio or post of charlie saying it? so it's all assumptions? the dignitas part.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 30 2013 01:38 GMT
#2510
I'm surprised no one had said anything about this. ZeroGravity (Na'VI's manager) posted on Twitter that he'll be announcing something next week. And GosuGamers pointed out that Na'Vi's StarLadder roster has AA on it, Minus Funn1k and KuroKy.

http://dota2.starladder.tv/team/squad/3480

I think this might actually be happening. But why Funn1k?
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Xynch
Profile Joined August 2013
40 Posts
August 30 2013 01:39 GMT
#2511
-Kuroky -Funn1k +Smile ?
x256
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada28 Posts
August 30 2013 01:44 GMT
#2512
I'm fairly certain that page hasn't been updated since the LoH departure.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 30 2013 01:46 GMT
#2513
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.

Its entirely possible for KP to either boot PieLieDie or run a standin for MLG. For instance, they might be able to use Arteezy for American tournaments only so he has time for studies, and run Pie for dailies where US kids will be in school.

Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldnt surprise me to see something like this.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 30 2013 01:54 GMT
#2514
sylar makes bigger plays than burning though.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 30 2013 01:54 GMT
#2515
On August 30 2013 10:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.

Its entirely possible for KP to either boot PieLieDie or run a standin for MLG. For instance, they might be able to use Arteezy for American tournaments only so he has time for studies, and run Pie for dailies where US kids will be in school.

Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldnt surprise me to see something like this.


?

cant u just physically show up to MLG columbus without playing in online quals or the invitational
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 30 2013 01:56 GMT
#2516
Universe will be back to EG, you heard it here first. Ha ha ha
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 30 2013 01:56 GMT
#2517
On August 30 2013 10:54 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.

Its entirely possible for KP to either boot PieLieDie or run a standin for MLG. For instance, they might be able to use Arteezy for American tournaments only so he has time for studies, and run Pie for dailies where US kids will be in school.

Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldnt surprise me to see something like this.


?

cant u just physically show up to MLG columbus without playing in online quals or the invitational


They aren't having an open bracket so no.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 30 2013 01:56 GMT
#2518
On August 30 2013 10:56 Kuroeeah wrote:
Universe will be back to EG, you heard it here first. Ha ha ha


heard that long time ago, and a couple pages back.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 30 2013 01:57 GMT
#2519
the difference is that i'm confirming it
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 30 2013 01:58 GMT
#2520
On August 30 2013 10:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:06 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Looks like Monolith will make EE's dream comes true by signing KP as the new Dignitas. That will make a strong team but with 3 european players they won't be able to participate the MLG... What an unfortunate start if this is true.

Its entirely possible for KP to either boot PieLieDie or run a standin for MLG. For instance, they might be able to use Arteezy for American tournaments only so he has time for studies, and run Pie for dailies where US kids will be in school.

Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldnt surprise me to see something like this.


?

cant u just physically show up to MLG columbus without playing in online quals or the invitational


They aren't having an open bracket so no.


so columbus will only have 4 teams?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
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