EPTThe super high end players will trade instead of find their stuff anyway.
Auction House Removal Approval Rate - Page 5
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
The super high end players will trade instead of find their stuff anyway. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
I think it's a good thing for people who love the Diablo series, and want to get back that feeling of hunting for your own items in D2 and finding that awesome, build changing epic. On the other hand, it's going to make any sort of trading really difficult. If this is accompanied with a serious chat overhaul and other ways to make it easier to get in touch with people for trading, it will be even better. As it is, it will just drive trading (and ultimately, selling) back to the third party sites like d2jsp. Providing a way for people NOT to have to do that was one of the biggest reasons for the AH in the first place. We'll see I guess, there's so many other changes that maybe/are going into this expansion that we won't really know for sure until after it's out, I think. | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
Actually, if they fix the loot system like they promised, then I guess that will fix the problem I highlighted in my first sentence. Still, totally removing it? I just don't know about that. | ||
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rita8
China4 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
Frankly, I’m surprised they’re dumping the AH entirely. I don’t think the current economy is ideal, but I thought their plans for RoS and Loot 2.0 were going to shake things up nicely. Better drop rates plus a lot of binding on top gear would have made self finding much more viable, and they could have left the AH active to provide convenient exchange of commodities and low/mid level item sales/trading. It seems to me that dumping it entirely was perhaps an overreaction, at least partially (and wisely) meant as a PR move. Blizzard knew that many players blamed the AH for D3′s problems, so while limiting or modifying it might have been more viable for the long term Loot 2.0 economy, the devs went for a more dramatic and headline-grabbing. http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3s-auction-house-went-straight-hell#more-370829 | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
On September 25 2013 02:28 dAPhREAk wrote: interesting article on diablo.incgamers.com. i won't quote it all, but here is a taste of the conclusion. http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3s-auction-house-went-straight-hell#more-370829 That's pretty obvious to me, as I said. On September 19 2013 07:24 Big G wrote: I understand their decision but I think it is demagogy before anything else. Loot 2.0 will solve most of the issues, and at that point the AH isn't nearly as mandatory as it is now, so it's just not worth the resulting effort and nuisances. Blizzard is just seizing the opportunity for the huge positive feedback. | ||
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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
In reality, the game is gear centric, and heavily biased at Inferno. Loot drops, good loot drops are excessively rare. Your almost never going to gear your own characters completely. The AH was the only real solution to many of those problems for most gamers, and the quality of gear needed to play at the highest levels could only reasonably be covered by AH. I blame the games Itemization system more than the AH. In reality, there will be RM transactions, Blizzard's AH attempted to get out ahead of it, and provide a safe means for others to take advantage, at least those that wanted to use it. Was it the best idea? No clue, but there was going to be a market one way or another. I don't begrudge Blizzard trying to preempt the market. Killing the AH completely is a gross overreaction. | ||
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ErrantJoe
United Kingdom5 Posts
I enjoy the AH but have also put a fair bit of time in (2 x P100 characters). I have never spent real money in the game but have had fun seeing how much gold I can make trading stuff. I'm pretty sad the AH is going. I will play the expansion but as soon as the upgrades start to dry up I can't see myself having any motivation to play at all. Hopefully they will put something in to keep me as interested in the game as the AH has. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
This single change makes me want to play again. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On September 25 2013 07:08 ErrantJoe wrote: Removing the AH gives the game back to the players who can / want to put 1000 hrs playtime into their character. These are the people Blizzard has listen to. But Diablo is a casual game for most of its 10,000,000+ players and removing the AH will severely limit what the majority of players can achieve in the time they have available. I enjoy the AH but have also put a fair bit of time in (2 x P100 characters). I have never spent real money in the game but have had fun seeing how much gold I can make trading stuff. I'm pretty sad the AH is going. I will play the expansion but as soon as the upgrades start to dry up I can't see myself having any motivation to play at all. Hopefully they will put something in to keep me as interested in the game as the AH has. Playing the auction house isn't how ARPG's work. If you like stuff like that then you should go work on wallstreet. The AH sucked because you could make 10x more by staring at that and flipping shit than actually playing the game. Nobody (except wallet warriors) likes seeing some fuck who spent 800 dollars on his character with no time spent actually doing anything come in and obliterate stuff. It takes a lot of the motive for most people away. That coupled with a terrible party system, and a terrible chat system is what made the game bad for most people. Removal of the AH is only one step, but it is a step in the right direction. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 26 2013 04:40 Infernal_dream wrote: Playing the auction house isn't how ARPG's work. If you like stuff like that then you should go work on wallstreet. The AH sucked because you could make 10x more by staring at that and flipping shit than actually playing the game. Nobody (except wallet warriors) likes seeing some fuck who spent 800 dollars on his character with no time spent actually doing anything come in and obliterate stuff. It takes a lot of the motive for most people away. That coupled with a terrible party system, and a terrible chat system is what made the game bad for most people. Removal of the AH is only one step, but it is a step in the right direction. just because a few people were able to wall street the AH doesn't mean you should just scrap the entire project. its overkill. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 26 2013 04:40 Infernal_dream wrote: Playing the auction house isn't how ARPG's work. If you like stuff like that then you should go work on wallstreet. The AH sucked because you could make 10x more by staring at that and flipping shit than actually playing the game. Nobody (except wallet warriors) likes seeing some fuck who spent 800 dollars on his character with no time spent actually doing anything come in and obliterate stuff. It takes a lot of the motive for most people away. That coupled with a terrible party system, and a terrible chat system is what made the game bad for most people. Removal of the AH is only one step, but it is a step in the right direction. And it was exactly the same with D2, but instead of browsing through AH you browsed through trade offers finding good deals. Actually in my opinion it was even worse in D2 because at least AH gives seller good search filters so you can easily check approximately how much are the modifiers you got worth. Honestly i see no good reasons for removing AH and i think most people who want it gone are either: 1) people who haven't played D2 and don't know how many bigger issues it had with "typical" trade system (especially duping runes and SOJs being worth nothing) 2) scammers, because the biggest and most noticeable difference between D2 trading and D3 AH is that it's way easier to scam in D2 | ||
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rainynights
Italy7 Posts
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ErrantJoe
United Kingdom5 Posts
On September 26 2013 04:40 Infernal_dream wrote: Playing the auction house isn't how ARPG's work. Playing the AH is one way of enjoying Diablo III, I guess this means that it doesn't fit your label of a pure ARPG. It would be a shame if game development was limited by such labels. The more important point is that the AH makes farming more meaningful. No matter what loot system is implemented eventually the self found upgrades will dry up. Having the AH to process my loot is pretty much the only thing that keeps me playing. I think that a Diablo ladder system without AH and non-ladder with AH would be a good balance I wonder why they didn't do this they must have considered it. | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
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Souone
Brazil470 Posts
They do a terrible job with D3 and wait for the expansion to make the changes the community has been asking for so they can sell more, as they can probably see their current playerbase is low. | ||
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cjin
181 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On September 26 2013 23:34 Souone wrote: Seems just like more Blizzard BS to me. They do a terrible job with D3 and wait for the expansion to make the changes the community has been asking for so they can sell more, as they can probably see their current playerbase is low. And, what is the issue? You do realize generally speaking, that is what software based companies (and various other sorts) end up doing to sell (or lease) their products. Companies generally will make decisions that will bring in more profit; sure they may do it because they care as well but one must never forget that money is also an integral part of the system. Blizzard made a game and it ended up hurting them. Now, they are making another gamble and across the board (from my perspective), this has elicited a positive response with the negative being the minority. Although not a good representation of the general populous, at least on the B.net forums, more have said they are now considering getting RoS because of this change compared to those that said they wont. Considering this is a for profit company, as of now, it has been a wise decision. | ||
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