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Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
September 17 2013 20:30 GMT
#1401
Given the news and information we've received these past few weeks, I can't help but wonder: What are they going to announce on BlizzCon? I mean considering the magnitude of just this latest announcement, what kind of bombshells are they planning to drop on us on BlizzCon?
"I can answer this, you're just a god damn sexy mofo." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147829&currentpage=7#139
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 17 2013 20:50 GMT
#1402
I was just thinking a lot more info, more videos/pictures, release date, and perhaps a beta?
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 21:34:04
September 17 2013 21:33 GMT
#1403
On September 18 2013 04:15 Najda wrote:
Well d2jsp is going to be getting a lot more traffic now.


hardcore gold sells at a 5-6,5 for 1 ratio (10 million = 50-65fg)
softcore gold at about 2-3,5 (10 million = 20-35fg)

sold all i had already, wasnt that much tt

jsp trades were so fun in d2, i think i prefer it to auction house.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 19 2013 10:19 GMT
#1404
On September 18 2013 05:30 Sverigevader wrote:
Given the news and information we've received these past few weeks, I can't help but wonder: What are they going to announce on BlizzCon? I mean considering the magnitude of just this latest announcement, what kind of bombshells are they planning to drop on us on BlizzCon?

Ladder, Clans, UI and social improvements, PEEVEPEE probably.

By the way, was wondering how will they count the account wide paragon levels. Will they take acc paragon xp or paragon levels and combine them. Dunno if getting at least paragon 20 on all chars is better or should I just get as many 100's as I can.
oh, hai
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
September 19 2013 11:56 GMT
#1405
The lastest posts regarding that question was that they simply add the combined P-EXP of all characters.

I'm so hyped for the expansion, I really think Blizzard makes a good successor of D2 yet.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 19 2013 14:30 GMT
#1406
On September 19 2013 19:19 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 05:30 Sverigevader wrote:
Given the news and information we've received these past few weeks, I can't help but wonder: What are they going to announce on BlizzCon? I mean considering the magnitude of just this latest announcement, what kind of bombshells are they planning to drop on us on BlizzCon?

Ladder, Clans, UI and social improvements, PEEVEPEE probably.

By the way, was wondering how will they count the account wide paragon levels. Will they take acc paragon xp or paragon levels and combine them. Dunno if getting at least paragon 20 on all chars is better or should I just get as many 100's as I can.

I'm pretty sure that it's based on xp, not the total number of levels.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 19 2013 14:51 GMT
#1407
I'm wondering if it will even matter because if they implement ladders then everyone will start from 0, right? I guess for the non-ladder account you would still have the paragons.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 15:12:08
September 19 2013 15:08 GMT
#1408
On September 19 2013 23:51 Najda wrote:
I'm wondering if it will even matter because if they implement ladders then everyone will start from 0, right? I guess for the non-ladder account you would still have the paragons.

When the ladder starts/resets everyone playing ladder will have 0 paragon yes, but after the ladder season ends that xp will be added to your non-ladder xp
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9948295103#7
That is currently the plan. Paragon experience will be account but will also be broken out by game play mode. Players who play in Hardcore will have a separate hardcore paragon level from their non hardcore characters.

When a season ends all of the paragon experience you have earned will be rolled into the appropriate pool of paragon experience for the account and you will be able to start at 0 again in the new season.

This is all still a work in progress and subject to change but that is what we are currently intending.

So if you just want to ladder, your current paragon means nothing to ladder and there's nothing you can do to get any advantage for ladder. But any xp you get on any character that is not p100 right now will add to your non-ladder account wide paragon level once 2.0 rolls out.
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
September 19 2013 16:05 GMT
#1409
On September 19 2013 23:30 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 19:19 HornyHerring wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:30 Sverigevader wrote:
Given the news and information we've received these past few weeks, I can't help but wonder: What are they going to announce on BlizzCon? I mean considering the magnitude of just this latest announcement, what kind of bombshells are they planning to drop on us on BlizzCon?

Ladder, Clans, UI and social improvements, PEEVEPEE probably.

By the way, was wondering how will they count the account wide paragon levels. Will they take acc paragon xp or paragon levels and combine them. Dunno if getting at least paragon 20 on all chars is better or should I just get as many 100's as I can.

I'm pretty sure that it's based on xp, not the total number of levels.


Correct.

Paragon level requirements will definitely change as well in the expansion. Remember that they have plans to give you 5 "points" per paragon level to put towards various attributes (stats, cooldown reduction, resource regen, crit chance, etc) and that the new level cap is 70. If Paragon 2.0 comes before the expansion, who knows.

The reasonable Paragon conversion plan would be to take all your paragon experience from all characters, sum them up and store them. When your first character turns 70, the experience is then given back to you. I'm guessing you will be at about roughly 60% of your sum Paragon level afterwards.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
September 23 2013 04:13 GMT
#1410
Hmm...interesting hange:


…we’ve removed the innate bonuses granted by Paragon levels, and players will now earn Paragon Points every time they level up. These points can then be spent to boost up various stats in four different categories: Core Stats, Offensive, Defensive, and Adventure.


Removed innate bonuses? So does that mean mf gear is going to be important again? will we have to carry an mf set to swap again. I quite liked the additional mf granted by the paragon levels :/
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 23 2013 04:29 GMT
#1411
MF will be a stat you can spend paragon points on.
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
September 23 2013 04:29 GMT
#1412
On September 23 2013 13:13 dartoo wrote:
Hmm...interesting hange:

Show nested quote +

…we’ve removed the innate bonuses granted by Paragon levels, and players will now earn Paragon Points every time they level up. These points can then be spent to boost up various stats in four different categories: Core Stats, Offensive, Defensive, and Adventure.


Removed innate bonuses? So does that mean mf gear is going to be important again? will we have to carry an mf set to swap again. I quite liked the additional mf granted by the paragon levels :/


No need for MF gear specifically, MF falls under adventure category:

ParagonBonusLabel_Magic_Find - Magic Find
ParagonBonusValue_Magic_Find - [{VALUE}*100|2+|]%

If the data mined thread is to be trusted. Not sure what the 2+ bit is all about, but maybe each point gives 1% MF. So if want MF it is now a choice, you can have it on gear, as paragon passives or not at all. Did they say if there was a cap on how much you could put into one stat?
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Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
September 23 2013 06:27 GMT
#1413
Well mf is not really a choice. If it gives a chance of getting better items people will run with it maxed out. If you have to choose between mf or stat bonuses everyone ( who wants to maximize their farming efficency ) will go with bonus stats and use mf gear swapping.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
September 23 2013 10:14 GMT
#1414
On September 23 2013 15:27 Butcherski wrote:
Well mf is not really a choice. If it gives a chance of getting better items people will run with it maxed out. If you have to choose between mf or stat bonuses everyone ( who wants to maximize their farming efficency ) will go with bonus stats and use mf gear swapping.

Gear swapping makes sense only against elites...

Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:14:57
September 23 2013 12:05 GMT
#1415
On September 23 2013 19:14 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 15:27 Butcherski wrote:
Well mf is not really a choice. If it gives a chance of getting better items people will run with it maxed out. If you have to choose between mf or stat bonuses everyone ( who wants to maximize their farming efficency ) will go with bonus stats and use mf gear swapping.

Gear swapping makes sense only against elites...


That's the whole point. I used MF swapping intensively after I discovered it, and will go back to it if MF works the same way it was until I get spare paragon points. MF swapping made a huge difference in the first weeks and with the AH not saturated it was really good and yielded significant results. Farming elites/champions with less than 100MF was useless at that time but with 250+ you could farm and be somewhat profitable to gear your character.

EDIT: I'm not sure if you know what he means by MF gear swapping, you put elites/champions pack really low on life and then execute then with max MF, you would have your normal DPS gear with no MF to not hit enrage and kill as fast as possible and then change every single part you had for part with MF to deal the last blow to get the loots with max MF at the time.
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
September 23 2013 12:19 GMT
#1416
On September 23 2013 13:29 FakeDouble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 13:13 dartoo wrote:
Hmm...interesting hange:


…we’ve removed the innate bonuses granted by Paragon levels, and players will now earn Paragon Points every time they level up. These points can then be spent to boost up various stats in four different categories: Core Stats, Offensive, Defensive, and Adventure.


Removed innate bonuses? So does that mean mf gear is going to be important again? will we have to carry an mf set to swap again. I quite liked the additional mf granted by the paragon levels :/


No need for MF gear specifically, MF falls under adventure category:

ParagonBonusLabel_Magic_Find - Magic Find
ParagonBonusValue_Magic_Find - [{VALUE}*100|2+|]%

If the data mined thread is to be trusted. Not sure what the 2+ bit is all about, but maybe each point gives 1% MF. So if want MF it is now a choice, you can have it on gear, as paragon passives or not at all. Did they say if there was a cap on how much you could put into one stat?


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10014411465?page=7#140

"- What category a Paragon Point can be spent in will be determined by what Paragon level you earn. Paragon level 1 gives you a point to spend in "Core Stat," Paragon level 2 gives you a point to in "Offensive," Paragon level 3 gives you a point to spend in "Defensive," and Paragon level 4 gives you a point to spend in "Utility" (or "Adventure"). Each Paragon level past that follows the same pattern. "

Meaning you won't be able to spent points as you want between categories, so if you want to max MF with paragon you would need Paragon 200 to have 50 points in it in its category.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:35:23
September 23 2013 12:26 GMT
#1417
On September 23 2013 21:05 Iblis wrote:
That's the whole point. I used MF swapping intensively after I discovered it, and will go back to it if MF works the same way it was until I get spare paragon points. MF swapping made a huge difference in the first weeks and with the AH not saturated it was really good and yielded significant results. Farming elites/champions with less than 100MF was useless at that time but with 250+ you could farm and be somewhat profitable to gear your character.

EDIT: I'm not sure if you know what he means by MF gear swapping, you put elites/champions pack really low on life and then execute then with max MF, you would have your normal DPS gear with no MF to not hit enrage and kill as fast as possible and then change every single part you had for part with MF to deal the last blow to get the loots with max MF at the time.

I know because I did it for a long time.

Nobody farms elites anymore for several reasons (except for DE of course), the killing speed is much faster than a year ago* and high density dungeons at high MP are just better since patch 1.04 ("Normal monsters should now drop Magic items and Rare items approximately 4 times more than before"), to the point where you could literally skip elites past 5NV.

Sure it'll be an option, but why would you do that when packs of white mobs give much more experience too? Maybe something quicker, like swapping in amulet + helm (for 80-100%mf more) for the occasional elite fight, could be good. But I wouldn't carry an entire set.



*beginning of ladder season will be different of course
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:55:42
September 23 2013 12:50 GMT
#1418
Oh, I totally agree with you that this is not how anyone should play right now and that high MP white trash farm is the way to go.
But given a start of ladder where MP is out of the equation for now, trash farm is useless in no MP or MP1 so going back to MF champion hunting will probably the way to go to build up enough to start experience oriented session efficiently.

I would carry as much part as I could that would allow me to finish the pack without risking dying to much, but without AH and loot 2.0 final DPS/EHP part may loot sonner than MF swap part so I guess depending on variance especially on the assured legendary on first kill boss per difficulty will be important to know where to go from there.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 23 2013 18:15 GMT
#1419
blizzard doesnt like mf gear swapping because people complain about it too much. they implemented paragon to stop it. i doubt they will allow it back in the game.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6583302/magic-find-gear-swapping-7-3-2012
cjin
Profile Joined July 2011
181 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 20:07:31
September 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1420
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