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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:30 ReignSupreme. wrote: By the way, any score under 90 for a title the size and reputation of the Diablo series is generally considered sub-par. Diablo 2 has a score of 88. The expansion has a score of 87. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:34 [F_]aths wrote: Diablo 2 has a score of 88. The expansion has a score of 87. STOP RUINING THE HATE WITH YOUR STUPID FACTS | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:34 [F_]aths wrote: Diablo 2 has a score of 88. The expansion has a score of 87. Fine then, any score under 90 for a AAA title (and especially something as hyped as D3) is generally considered sub-par. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:19 Crownlol wrote: No, it absolutely is not. Diablo 3 was a wild success, no matter what you personally think about it. "Diablo III set a new record for fastest-selling PC game by selling over 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours of its release,[6] and was the best selling PC game of 2012, selling more than 12 million copies during the year" - Bramblet, Matthew (February 7, 2013). "Activision Blizzard Q4 2012 Earnings Report" "Diablo III has received generally positive reviews from critics, attaining scores of 87.64% and 88/100 on aggregate review websites GameRankings and Metacritic respectively" Furthermore, the only people complaining about Diablo are people that purchased it and played it ad nauseum. What's your /played, by the way? Repeating what was said will not make it any more true. Yes those are facts. Diablo sold great in the first few days, because it was a hyped game, the successor of Diablo 2 and it promised content that was not and is not available even today. It did not fail in sales, it failed in customer satisfaction and Blizzard is going to pay for this dearly. And comparing Diablo to games like Tomb Raider is like comparing a dog to the planet neptune. Tomb Raider is an action adventure that tells a story and if I had a time machine, I would go back and tell myself its a good story that you like go buy it. I would not do that for D3, because I expected a game with a high replay value, with rich character development options and itemization, good loot, trashmobs and tricky bosses. And all I got was this down watered version of D2 with shitty graphics for todays standards combined with a horrible performance for its graphics. I liked the first playthrough, but its not worth the 60€ or whatever high price it was worth. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:35 Crownlol wrote: STOP RUINING THE HATE WITH YOUR STUPID FACTS But my memories of a game I played when I was 15 are so distorted that I think D2 and WC3 had good stories, great writing and were received a gods of their genre when they were released! I wasn't good at dealing with reality then, WHY WOULD I CHANGE?! | ||
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KimchiMonster
Canada12 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:19 Crownlol wrote: No, it absolutely is not. Diablo 3 was a wild success, no matter what you personally think about it. "Diablo III set a new record for fastest-selling PC game by selling over 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours of its release,[6] and was the best selling PC game of 2012, selling more than 12 million copies during the year" - Bramblet, Matthew (February 7, 2013). "Activision Blizzard Q4 2012 Earnings Report" "Diablo III has received generally positive reviews from critics, attaining scores of 87.64% and 88/100 on aggregate review websites GameRankings and Metacritic respectively" Furthermore, the only people complaining about Diablo are people that purchased it and played it ad nauseum. What's your /played, by the way? I'm sorry, but no. Picking two websites with the highest review scores and it's sales don't make it a wild success by any means. It was a Diablo sequel, of course it's going to sell extraordinarily well and ratings given within the first week or playthrough imo don't count when it comes to a Diablo title or any multiplayer experience. It was an epic failure in terms of replayability which is what made Diablo 2 so wonderful. I loved my first two playthroughs of the game but when it came time to grind or pick a new character, It got so stale and boring I could almost hear my hair growing. I stopped after two characters to 60, which isn't an extreme amount. I've put more time into individual Zelda titles than I did Diablo 3 and I still play them from time to time. When gauging how good a game will be I always check user review scores. I find them to more accurately represent the communities overall reaction to new games. Instead of one guys biased opinion within the first few days of a release. | ||
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Nymzee
3929 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:41 KimchiMonster wrote: I'm sorry, but no. Picking two websites with the highest review scores and it's sales don't make it a wild success by any means. It was a Diablo sequel, of course it's going to sell extraordinarily well and ratings given within the first week or playthrough imo don't count when it comes to a Diablo title or any multiplayer experience. It was an epic failure in terms of replayability which is what made Diablo 2 so wonderful. I loved my first two playthroughs of the game but when it came time to grind or pick a new character, It got so stale and boring I could almost hear my hair growing. I stopped after two characters to 60, which isn't an extreme amount. I've put more time into individual Zelda titles than I did Diablo 3 and I still play them from time to time. When gauging how good a game will be I always check user review scores. I find them to more accurately represent the communities overall reaction to new games. Instead of one guys biased opinion within the first few days of a release. I can concur with this. And what do you know? D3: User: 3.8 D2: User: 8.7 D1: User: 8.6 D3, very well received. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:41 KimchiMonster wrote: I'm sorry, but no. Picking two websites with the highest review scores and it's sales don't make it a wild success by any means. It was a Diablo sequel, of course it's going to sell extraordinarily well and ratings given within the first week or playthrough imo don't count when it comes to a Diablo title or any multiplayer experience. It was an epic failure in terms of replayability which is what made Diablo 2 so wonderful. I loved my first two playthroughs of the game but when it came time to grind or pick a new character, It got so stale and boring I could almost hear my hair growing. I stopped after two characters to 60, which isn't an extreme amount. I've put more time into individual Zelda titles than I did Diablo 3 and I still play them from time to time. When gauging how good a game will be I always check user review scores. I find them to more accurately represent the communities overall reaction to new games. Instead of one guys biased opinion within the first few days of a release. The "picked" websites use an weighted average score of many reviews and represent a general opinion about the game. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:39 Holy_AT wrote: And comparing Diablo to games like Tomb Raider is like comparing a dog to the planet neptune. ^ I'm stealing this simile. On topic though, even though it was "well received," and "sold a lot of stuff," remember that D3 had a lot of hype to work with. Also the game was probably really really good on the first playthrough but everyone who's played D2 or has D3 told me that it wasn't worth buying D3 and that the replayability was really, really low. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:41 KimchiMonster wrote: I'm sorry, but no. Picking two websites with the highest review scores and it's sales don't make it a wild success by any means. It was a Diablo sequel, of course it's going to sell extraordinarily well and ratings given within the first week or playthrough imo don't count when it comes to a Diablo title or any multiplayer experience. It was an epic failure in terms of replayability which is what made Diablo 2 so wonderful. I loved my first two playthroughs of the game but when it came time to grind or pick a new character, It got so stale and boring I could almost hear my hair growing. I stopped after two characters to 60, which isn't an extreme amount. I've put more time into individual Zelda titles than I did Diablo 3 and I still play them from time to time. When gauging how good a game will be I always check user review scores. I find them to more accurately represent the communities overall reaction to new games. Instead of one guys biased opinion within the first few days of a release. He didn't pick two websites, those are numbers from aggregate websites that take into account all reviews. That means that those are the average of all the reviews, which means that the majority pretty much liked the game. Also, user reviews scores are messed up on Diablo 3 because the hardcore community review bombed it. The same thing happened to the new Devil May Cry, which is a great game, but has shitty user reviews. On August 02 2013 22:46 ReignSupreme. wrote: I can concur with this. And what do you know? D3: User: 3.8 D2: User: 8.7 D1: User: 8.6 D3, very well received. Review bombing makes user reviews a useless metric. As I stated above, Devil May Cry has bad reviews, even though it is a great game. The Twitch TV app on Itunes has a 1 star rating due to it being broken for 3 weeks. I have used it for almost 2 years and it has worked the rest of that time, well I might add. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:41 Nymzee wrote: Going to be the new WoW expansion obviously. What'll it be this time..? "Depths of the Naga?" | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:39 ReignSupreme. wrote: Fine then, any score under 90 for a AAA title (and especially something as hyped as D3) is generally considered sub-par. So you admit that either Diablo 2 failed the size and reputation of the Diablo series, or (in an exclusive sense) that Diablo 3 does not fail the size and reputation of the Diablo 3 season? | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:48 [F_]aths wrote: So you admit that either Diablo 2 failed the size and reputation of the Diablo series, or (in an exclusive sense) that Diablo 3 does not fail the size and reputation of the Diablo 3 season? They're different era's of gaming and you're kidding yourself if you think any different. And great, you used Metacritic to find an average score of many reviews, which were given upon release. Anyway, i'm done with this thread, enjoy. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:48 [F_]aths wrote: So you admit that either Diablo 2 failed the size and reputation of the Diablo series, or (in an exclusive sense) that Diablo 3 does not fail the size and reputation of the Diablo 3 season? I guess Dota 2 and Xcom missed the mark by 1 point then. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dota-2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=213&topic_id=423601 Or Saints Row 3 - with its 84%, but still an amazing game. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/saints-row-the-third On August 02 2013 22:52 ReignSupreme. wrote: They're different era's of gaming and you're kidding yourself if you think any different. And great, you used Metacritic to find an average score of many reviews, which were given upon release. Anyway, i'm done with this thread, enjoy. People review games after release? When did this start happening? "2 year later, Bioshock Inf. is still a great game. Civ 5 too. Street Fighter 4 is also pretty awesome, but I needed to buy a new fight stick." | ||
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Like a Boss
502 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:52 ReignSupreme. wrote: They're different era's of gaming and you're kidding yourself if you think any different. And great, you used Metacritic to find an average score of many reviews, which were given upon release. Anyway, i'm done with this thread, enjoy. Feels like debating a religious apologist. On August 02 2013 22:53 Plansix wrote: I guess Dota 2 and Xcom missed the mark by 1 point then. Yeah, 90% is extremely hard to get. Wings of Liberty with 93% really says something about SC2 (user score is 8.1). HotS got only 86% (and 7.7 user score.) | ||
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ulan-bat
China403 Posts
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
On August 02 2013 22:55 [F_]aths wrote: Feels like debating a religious apologist. Yeah, 90% is extremely hard to get. Wings of Liberty with 93% really says something about SC2. If one wants to end the discussion, he is instantly a religious apologist. It is not a discussion if you keep saying the same thing again and again. It's like a politician - style discussion. You are right no matter what. | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/1/4580116/blizzard-diablo-announcement-gamescom-2013 If they confirm features that should have been in the game soon after release and package it in an paid expansion I'm gonna be mad. Like PvP Deathmatch/arena, the possibility to sell character, that one they said would be in the game, guess they don't need to deliver anything they announce nowadays and just do it like The WarZ, oh sorry, Infestation Survivor Stories. | ||
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