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The problem with Diablo 3 is that it is too easy - Page 2

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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:26:42
May 20 2012 17:23 GMT
#21
Inferno bosses from what I've done and seen are very easy (Act II HC, Act III SC), a good percent of Inferno rare packs are unkillable.
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PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
May 20 2012 17:26 GMT
#22
On May 21 2012 02:23 The Irate Turk wrote:
Maybe HC is the way to go, but I think that is a bit of a cop out. I don't really have enough time to play that conservatively and meticulously


Then don't say it's easy... It's like playing starcraft against normal comps because you don't have enough time to practice and then say it's too easy. The game is meant to be played in hardcore, and until you beat inferno on hardcore, you can't say the game is easy.
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
May 20 2012 17:28 GMT
#23

Yes, this isn't World of Warcraft, its a different beast altogether and is a once-off buy. They don't need to "keep" players for months/years.

It's directed more at the casual player, which hell and especially inferno should keep going for a long time. Hardcore is there for those who don't feel challenged.


dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
May 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#24
It is very disappointing everything just scales stat wise. They could've done something interesting with D3 with scaling difficulty based on skill, but nope, Inferno bosses are the same thing as playing undergeared on Normal. Actually easier since you have more abilities to utilize at a higher level.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#25
On May 21 2012 02:26 PatouPower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 02:23 The Irate Turk wrote:
Maybe HC is the way to go, but I think that is a bit of a cop out. I don't really have enough time to play that conservatively and meticulously


Then don't say it's easy... It's like playing starcraft against normal comps because you don't have enough time to practice and then say it's too easy. The game is meant to be played in hardcore, and until you beat inferno on hardcore, you can't say the game is easy.


Since when is hardcore the standard?
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#26
Diablo 2 was pretty easy aswell, so I don't get the point.
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
May 20 2012 17:43 GMT
#27
There are a lot of things that are wrong with the game but this isn't one of them.
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
May 20 2012 17:55 GMT
#28
On May 21 2012 02:26 PatouPower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 02:23 The Irate Turk wrote:
Maybe HC is the way to go, but I think that is a bit of a cop out. I don't really have enough time to play that conservatively and meticulously


Then don't say it's easy... It's like playing starcraft against normal comps because you don't have enough time to practice and then say it's too easy. The game is meant to be played in hardcore, and until you beat inferno on hardcore, you can't say the game is easy.


The game is definitely not meant to be played on Hardcore, Jay Wilson himself said so.

I do agree with the OPs points though. I just beat the Skeleton King on Inferno for the first time with 5 stack NV. it took me forever to get those 5 stacks, and when I finally got to SK, it felt like easy mode.

I can't fathom why elite mobs would have enrage timers when the bosses do not, except for the Butcher apparently.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#29
MY beef with the bosses is just that they are absurdly boring. I wish they did more things you had to keep track of or be wary of during the fights.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
May 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#30
Weren't they supposed to give more abilities to bosses on higher difficulties?
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
May 20 2012 20:25 GMT
#31
Play HC, that will stop the rezzing problem.
Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
May 20 2012 20:49 GMT
#32
On May 21 2012 02:29 dottycakes wrote:
It is very disappointing everything just scales stat wise. They could've done something interesting with D3 with scaling difficulty based on skill, but nope, Inferno bosses are the same thing as playing undergeared on Normal. Actually easier since you have more abilities to utilize at a higher level.


That is made to prevent boss runs and item farming. Diablo 3 is not easy. Nightmare is a piece of cake, hell gets REALLY tough and I can't even imagine what Inferno is like. No complaints there.
Regina
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands148 Posts
May 20 2012 20:56 GMT
#33
d3 is to easy, i mean the dmg off a bossfight is in no way a deciding factor wether its classified as good or bad. The amount of strategy / difficulty of the boss mechanics is imho silly. im playing hell atm.
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
May 20 2012 21:08 GMT
#34
On May 21 2012 02:40 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 02:26 PatouPower wrote:
On May 21 2012 02:23 The Irate Turk wrote:
Maybe HC is the way to go, but I think that is a bit of a cop out. I don't really have enough time to play that conservatively and meticulously


Then don't say it's easy... It's like playing starcraft against normal comps because you don't have enough time to practice and then say it's too easy. The game is meant to be played in hardcore, and until you beat inferno on hardcore, you can't say the game is easy.


Since when is hardcore the standard?


It automatically becomes the standard when you're bitching about the game being too easy.

If you're going to bitch and moan about the game being too easy, you should at least be playing the game on the hardest setting. That's Hardcore Inferno.
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Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
May 20 2012 21:15 GMT
#35
while there are a lot of stupid complaints about D3 difficulty, how its too easy because it was beaten in 5 days, etc etc etc... I do find the thread creator to have valid points. The boss mechanics are way way too simple, they often have too little HP (except act bosses), and they dont scale in difficulty. In inferno many bosses are nearly as hard as in hell, which is, avoid attacks simple attacks, profit. Diablo is somewhat of an exception here... he uses such abilities that it may be difficult to dodge all of them, and it becomes a gear check. But that is a relatively uninteresting way of scaling a boss fight. (Yes I am aware that he has been solo'd and 4 manned by at least two teams, but once the cheesy strategies get nerfed it should be hard again).
Butcher enrage is fine I guess, since his other attacks do pretty high damage too and dont leave too much room for mistake. However, like was mentioned, belial needs a new mechanic, his green pools should become harder to dodge, etc. azmodan needs new mechanics as well. all of his attacks are quite easily avoidable.

Champion and rare packs are probably fine as they are IMO, they need to be hard, and they need to have large variety of possiblities in them. This forces us to make tough decisions and figure out the most optimal build.... or skip that part of the content.

corpse running was obviously a flaw by blizzard. It should NOT be possible to jump into another persons corpse before he respawns. Had this not been possible, inferno act 3 might not have been cleared yet.

resurrection in a co-op boss is fine imo, but in that case the bosses need an enrage timer. I don't know what blizzard was thinking when azmodan and belial didnt get one. Honestly, were their elite set of gamers THIS bad?
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
May 20 2012 21:26 GMT
#36
Where all those wow kids coming from? D3 really turned into wow 2.0 and I hate blizzard for it.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
May 20 2012 21:32 GMT
#37
The difficulty is fine.
-Hardcore player
This road isn't leading anywhere...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 20 2012 21:35 GMT
#38
And yet people still come to shit up the Barbarian discussion thread with balance whine about how the game is too hard for Barbarians.
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
May 20 2012 21:37 GMT
#39
Just wondering how many hours have you played on your main char OP?
It is what it is
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
May 20 2012 21:51 GMT
#40
On May 21 2012 06:37 Dizmaul wrote:
Just wondering how many hours have you played on your main char OP?


This. As someone who is playing for 1-2 hours a day, the game is plenty challenging...
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