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crisiscore
Australia72 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
but hrm... what to upgrade now. I can basically get a 5 stack and kill siegebreaker in a very short amount of time. I find this is easier for me to do than trying to just full clear act 3... anyone else doing this as well or is it universal just going through act 3 all the way to azmodan is best? | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:12 Kazeyonoma wrote: bah, now i need to figure out how to get 24% runspeed, it hink it's the last thing in my arsenal to get that'll make me a 'complete' ww barb. i want lacuni's but good ones are just out of my budget. I also was hoping to get some more LoH somewhere, but I don't think I can find it anywhere within my budget too. Recently dropped my 1051 dps weapon with basically only 58% crit damage as a stat (1192 lok is meh), for a 958.6 dps axe... with 293 str! and 63% crit damage. my dps jumped another 3.2k (on the dps sheet, which means it's actually more if i use the 85/15 calculations) all for the cheap cheap price of only 750k =x but hrm... what to upgrade now. I can basically get a 5 stack and kill siegebreaker in a very short amount of time. I find this is easier for me to do than trying to just full clear act 3... anyone else doing this as well or is it universal just going through act 3 all the way to azmodan is best? I got mine for 5m: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hairy-1750/hero/2281818 No resist, but good stats and +armour. I actually suspect 5m was a bargain for the stats on them. As far as runs go, I've just been having a checkpoint at the end of A3 and teleporting around to interesting bits. The Keep Depths 2 / 3 The Bridge of Korsikk Arreat Craters and Tower of the Damned 1 I used to do exactly the run that the #1 Paragon barb was using, but I've recently been doing a bit more than that so I can kill more elites with the 5NV, because I want lots of items to sell, not just experience!  I would recommend teleporting + waypointing yourself around, because you avoid some of the long runs and backtracks (eg if you run yourself into a massive dead-end, just teleport out and abandon that map - it's not worth your time to run all the way back). | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
Think I may need to work in some AS after see that char | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:01 Hairy wrote: EU, I'm afraid. I have ~11m right now, and I need probably between 15-25m for the item I want. Thanks for the offer, though. You trying to save up for a tyrael's chest? That's what I'm trying to do for the demon % and run speed, so I'll have 36%. I only got 17m right now and I've been trying to snipe some on bids with no buyouts, but always get out bidded. I need 20-25m to get one with more than 170s and more than 10% demon %. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
be on the checkpoint right before azmodan, so that you start each game at the end of the core of arreat. go through the core to the waypoint, then to the first tower level 1. do one full circle around it and go to arreat crater lvl 2. after arreat crater lvl 2, i just go down one level and check if an elite is near the wp, most of the times, it is. you should be able to keep your wotb from arreat crater level 2 up till then. afterwards, i go to the bridge of korsik and do one circle around the fields of slaughter. then i take the wp keep depth lvl 1 and quickly check if an elite pack is nearby, often times it is. then go down to keep depths lvl 2 and clear all of it. then i take the wp to keep depths lvl 3 and clear this zone aswell. afterwards, i take the stonefort and rakkis crossing wps to quickly check for elites that are immediately at these wps. like hairy said, i strive for a compromise between maximizing the efficiency of leveling and the efficiency of drops. you should, however, keep in mind that the forced rares from 5 NV stacks always spawn with 4 affixes, so that they have significantly lower chances of being good. therefore, one should not exaggerate the "loss of drops" that occurs during the first 5 elite kills or overvalue the concept of "continuing with 5 stacks on". it is also possible to add arreat crater level 1 to this route, but it often times has very nasty splits that end in veery long dead ends - therefore, i only recommend to include this zone if your gear is good enough to run with boon of bul kathos instead of nerves of steel. | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:43 Charger wrote: Think I may need to work in some AS after see that char To whet your appetite.... my average weapon attack speed is 2.2. With WOTB and the frenzy shrine buff, that goes well over 3 attack speed. Yea, that's pretty juicy. | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:59 Canucklehead wrote: You trying to save up for a tyrael's chest? That's what I'm trying to do for the demon % and run speed, so I'll have 36%. I only got 17m right now and I've been trying to snipe some on bids with no buyouts, but always get out bidded. I need 20-25m to get one with more than 170s and more than 10% demon %. THE CAP ON MOVEMENT SPEED FROM ITEMS IS 25%! Put in big and red because I've seen someone else make the same mistake recently in this thread, and I wouldn't want anyone wasting gold on something that won't benefit them. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 13 2012 02:10 Hairy wrote: THE CAP ON MOVEMENT SPEED FROM ITEMS IS 25%! Put in big and red because I've seen someone else make the same mistake recently in this thread, and I wouldn't want anyone wasting gold on something that won't benefit them. Damn, I didn't know that. Hmmm, I think I may still buy a tyrael for the demon % and just take the run speed off my boots for higher stats elsewhere. On September 13 2012 02:03 Black Gun wrote: you should, however, keep in mind that the forced rares from 5 NV stacks always spawn with 4 affixes, so that they have significantly lower chances of being good. therefore, one should not exaggerate the "loss of drops" that occurs during the first 5 elite kills or overvalue the concept of "continuing with 5 stacks on". Damn, I didn't know this either. My friend who I do runs with always said I value 5 stacks too much, but didn't give any reason other than it's just faster doing only certain areas than full bridge to azmo run for more elite kills with 5 stacks. | ||
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Warmonger
United States69 Posts
On September 13 2012 02:03 Black Gun wrote: you should, however, keep in mind that the forced rares from 5 NV stacks always spawn with 4 affixes, so that they have significantly lower chances of being good. Do you have a source for this? | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
http://www.diablofans.com/topic/57939-magic-find-and-its-efficiency-a-statistical-insight/#S6-4 "However, the above computation indicates that it is very likely for the NV rare to simply have a 100% to hit on the 4-affix rare." you can try it out yourself: the guaranteed rare that you get from 5 stack NV will always only have 4 affixes. if one elite that you killed with 5 stacks drops more than one rare, the non-forced one can ofc have more than 4 affixes. you can also simply check this by picking up all rares that drop as the only rare from an elite that was killed with 5 stacks and putting them in a different section of your inventory. (only with these rares we know for sure that they were created through the NV-5-stack-force thingie.) when identifying, you wont find a rare with more than 4 affixes among them. please keep in mind though that certain affixes yield more than one modifier. for example dual-stats like vit/str can come from one single affix. | ||
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Warmonger
United States69 Posts
On September 13 2012 03:32 Black Gun wrote: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/57939-magic-find-and-its-efficiency-a-statistical-insight/#S6-4 "However, the above computation indicates that it is very likely for the NV rare to simply have a 100% to hit on the 4-affix rare." you can try it out yourself: the guaranteed rare that you get from 5 stack NV will always only have 4 affixes. if one elite that you killed with 5 stacks drops more than one rare, the non-forced one can ofc have more than 4 affixes. you can also simply check this by picking up all rares that drop as the only rare from an elite that was killed with 5 stacks and putting them in a different section of your inventory. (only with these rares we know for sure that they were created through the NV-5-stack-force thingie.) when identifying, you wont find a rare with more than 4 affixes among them. please keep in mind though that certain affixes yield more than one modifier. for example dual-stats like vit/str can come from one single affix. Yea, I figured it would be pretty easy to test, so I was suprised I hadn't read it before. Thanks for the link! | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
btw getting rich is such a matter of luck its not even funny. this weekend, i found a natalyas ring with 130+ dex, 9 attack speed and 3.5 cc. sold this morning for 200M. until that find, i had made about 50-60M in total. dont even know on what to spend my new riches.  | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
So, is there a way to play Barbarian with either a 2h weapon or dual wielding? Which is better for inferno and what stats, skills and talents would you be looking for if you wanted to make DW or 2h work on those difficulties? | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
no way around it :/ | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:42 blagoonga123 wrote: Money made = Time spent * Luck no way around it :/ Yup, that's Diablo. BUT not all time spent is equal. Thus the importance of efficient farming - getting the most loot for the least amount of time/effort in an effort to increase your chances of getting lucky. It's just like gambling really. Only instead of putting in money for the chance at winning more money you put in time/effort for the chance to get good loot worth gold/money. Man, I love this game. | ||
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
Why is my damage so PITIFUL T.T | ||
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