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crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 08:49:24
August 25 2012 08:43 GMT
#2581
Hey guys been farming act 3, and i've noticed since 1.04 that when i pick up tyrael, sometimes that you can die, and when you resporn you get two tyraels? or is it just me as I've had this happen to me quite a few times now on my barb and once on my WD. Screenshot attached.
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d(O_O)b
Noak
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden84 Posts
August 25 2012 08:49 GMT
#2582
i've gotten 2 Tyraels before patch without dying, something about him not stopping to follow you when he's suposed to and then joining in as a 2nd one later
Kerans
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy58 Posts
August 25 2012 10:04 GMT
#2583
A question for the WW crowd: how much would it cost to gear up a barb for a transition from a sword&board setup to a WW build that can somewhat comfortably farm act 3? Much as I like being a tank, it's becoming a bit boring after the first 400 hours or so... here's where I am at the moment

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kerans-2706/hero/1803066

Much obliged

"Walk softly, and carry a big stick"
1nfamous
Profile Joined October 2009
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 10:13:59
August 25 2012 10:12 GMT
#2584
On August 25 2012 19:04 Kerans wrote:
A question for the WW crowd: how much would it cost to gear up a barb for a transition from a sword&board setup to a WW build that can somewhat comfortably farm act 3? Much as I like being a tank, it's becoming a bit boring after the first 400 hours or so... here's where I am at the moment

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kerans-2706/hero/1803066

Much obliged



i did the same switch after 1.04 and its not that expensive, i am using a 2hand weapon because for the stats i get from it (1400 LoH,100%crit dmg,+300vita) it seems alot cheaper than a dual wield setup (also 2hand barb ftw!), i would recommend you getting such a weapon and an amulet and gloves with high crit chance (+7% on both), i can do act3 pretty comfortable with my current gear and it isnt really good (i switched out some dmg for some more defense @ rings).

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Infamous-1297/hero/772350
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
August 25 2012 10:18 GMT
#2585
On August 25 2012 19:04 Kerans wrote:
A question for the WW crowd: how much would it cost to gear up a barb for a transition from a sword&board setup to a WW build that can somewhat comfortably farm act 3? Much as I like being a tank, it's becoming a bit boring after the first 400 hours or so... here's where I am at the moment

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kerans-2706/hero/1803066

Much obliged


Try replacing your battle rage for Rend, its so damn awesome. Makes tank barb a lot more fun and keeping up the dot and trying to apply it to as much stuff as possible is so much more engaging than frenzy+revenge spam that you don't go bored out of your mind.
I'm loving rend in my tank build and Im smashing through act 3 much faster now in not the greatest gear. I need the heals from blood lust rune but the higher damage one is pretty insane if you dont need the survivability. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sol-6226/hero/15778362
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
August 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2586
I think I'm in love with Rend-Bloodlust. <3

Farewell Revenge!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#2587
Hey guys,

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped me out before, doing the 1-hand/shield builds, and the smooth transition to WW/Sprint build. I'm going to be quitting and will most likely RMAH all of my items/gold, etc... I started to feel bored and couldn't really justify to continue playing.

Here is my hero profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049

Have a last look at it. Stats are buffed with Warcry, Battle Rage, Enchantress follower, and Paragon Level 5. I'm going to be moving on to playing CS:GO more now.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
August 26 2012 07:40 GMT
#2588
Alright, trying to get back into this after the patch.

I've been broke the whole time I've been playing, but finally managed to scrounge up some money. I have 5 mil to spend, and need some advice on what gear to get.

Here's a link to my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Gilligan-1821/hero/3626028

What should I upgrade first? What kind of stuff should I go for that will help without breaking the bank?

Thanks in advance for any help!
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 08:16:12
August 26 2012 08:15 GMT
#2589
any tips on what i should buy next?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i started playing again 2 days ago and spend all my gold on this equip.
I was able to simply run a3 and a4 inferno killing everything with 5 nephalem without much of a problem, but i have no idea wheather my skills or equip is rly good :D

i concentrated on core stats (str/res/vita) - do i need more life/hit or more critchance?
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
August 26 2012 10:33 GMT
#2590
On August 26 2012 16:40 TrickyGilligan wrote:
Alright, trying to get back into this after the patch.

I've been broke the whole time I've been playing, but finally managed to scrounge up some money. I have 5 mil to spend, and need some advice on what gear to get.

Here's a link to my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Gilligan-1821/hero/3626028

What should I upgrade first? What kind of stuff should I go for that will help without breaking the bank?

Thanks in advance for any help!

You have a few pieces of gear without strength on them so thats a start. Chest and pants with 3 and 2 sockets you can fit them with gems also.
d(O_O)b
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:48:16
August 26 2012 10:45 GMT
#2591
On August 26 2012 17:15 KalWarkov wrote:
any tips on what i should buy next?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i started playing again 2 days ago and spend all my gold on this equip.
I was able to simply run a3 and a4 inferno killing everything with 5 nephalem without much of a problem, but i have no idea wheather my skills or equip is rly good :D

i concentrated on core stats (str/res/vita) - do i need more life/hit or more critchance?

crit hit chance and crit hit damage go together to make most use of it, wouldn't go one without the other. Your surviability is good so i'm assuming you just want to up your DPS which is getting more strength, crit chance and damage, and some attack speed here and there will get your DPS up. Generally most armour pieces can roll up to 200 strength other than shoulders which can roll 300 strength. The best chests will have 3 sockets and pants will have 2 to fit gems and get more strength. Crit chance rolls on helm, gloves, rings, bracers, amulet. Rings and Ammies with + bonus damage is also good to up DPS but rings and ammies are expensive pieces.

Go here if you want to see all the max rolls on items: http://www.d3maxstats.com/

By the way you can use weapon master passive and get straight up 15% increase damage also.
Just use which of the either armour passives that give you the most armour instead of using both.
Also I would change your last enchantress passive to give the 3% attack speed also.
d(O_O)b
redLeg
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland16 Posts
August 26 2012 11:23 GMT
#2592
I need some advice on which 2 of these 3 weapons I should use(for WW build ofc):

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[image loading][image loading][image loading]


until now I've used the spear and the axe, but yesterday I found the sword and I figured that I would do more dmg with the sword+weaponsmaster(since I didn't use weaponsmaster with the spear, I used tough as nails). So right now I'm using the sword+axe but I've been thinking about using sword+spear since that would up my whirlwind dmg by quite a lot, at the cost of some LOH (~200) and +critdmg(~100).

Thanks in advance for your help!
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 11:54:43
August 26 2012 11:44 GMT
#2593
On August 26 2012 20:23 redLeg wrote:
I need some advice on which 2 of these 3 weapons I should use(for WW build ofc):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading]


until now I've used the spear and the axe, but yesterday I found the sword and I figured that I would do more dmg with the sword+weaponsmaster(since I didn't use weaponsmaster with the spear, I used tough as nails). So right now I'm using the sword+axe but I've been thinking about using sword+spear since that would up my whirlwind dmg by quite a lot, at the cost of some LOH (~200) and +critdmg(~100).

Thanks in advance for your help!

For WW, spear is terrible as a mainhand, well i think spears are terrible for mainhand generally even more so for Weapon Master. I would use that sword for your main for the passive buff and your spear as an off-hand - the axe isn't that great because it's really really low DPS. For WW barbs, Axe / Maces, then Swords / Daggers are the ones you want for your mainhand. Only go mighty weapon with weapon master if you're going for the thrive on chaos.
Ideally you want the hightest DPS weapon you can find with strength and a socket for your mainhand of the mace/axe or sword/dagger variety. And for your off-hand you generally want high life on hit, high crit damage stat and a socket and generally a weapon which is decently fast, so swords, daggers or another type of weapon which rolls attack speed, It doesn't have to be the highest DPS (but shouldn't be as low as your axe either) as it forms part of your WW damage which uses main-hand and off-hand. Tornados is Mainhand only - .... others can corret me if I'm wrong.
This is an example for good main-hand and offhand:
The mainhand really just needs strength and socket and be of the right type, other stats are just bonuses. The stats on the off-hand are important. Also to get high LOH for WW spec, a good ammie with good amount of LOH is also recommended.
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[image loading]
d(O_O)b
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 26 2012 12:51 GMT
#2594
On August 26 2012 19:45 crisiscore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:15 KalWarkov wrote:
any tips on what i should buy next?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i started playing again 2 days ago and spend all my gold on this equip.
I was able to simply run a3 and a4 inferno killing everything with 5 nephalem without much of a problem, but i have no idea wheather my skills or equip is rly good :D

i concentrated on core stats (str/res/vita) - do i need more life/hit or more critchance?

crit hit chance and crit hit damage go together to make most use of it, wouldn't go one without the other. Your surviability is good so i'm assuming you just want to up your DPS which is getting more strength, crit chance and damage, and some attack speed here and there will get your DPS up. Generally most armour pieces can roll up to 200 strength other than shoulders which can roll 300 strength. The best chests will have 3 sockets and pants will have 2 to fit gems and get more strength. Crit chance rolls on helm, gloves, rings, bracers, amulet. Rings and Ammies with + bonus damage is also good to up DPS but rings and ammies are expensive pieces.

Go here if you want to see all the max rolls on items: http://www.d3maxstats.com/

By the way you can use weapon master passive and get straight up 15% increase damage also.
Just use which of the either armour passives that give you the most armour instead of using both.
Also I would change your last enchantress passive to give the 3% attack speed also.


thanks.

kind of sucks there is nothing in the game that can beat u already and u still have so much to do better :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
August 26 2012 14:39 GMT
#2595
On August 26 2012 21:51 KalWarkov wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2012 19:45 crisiscore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 17:15 KalWarkov wrote:
any tips on what i should buy next?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i started playing again 2 days ago and spend all my gold on this equip.
I was able to simply run a3 and a4 inferno killing everything with 5 nephalem without much of a problem, but i have no idea wheather my skills or equip is rly good :D

i concentrated on core stats (str/res/vita) - do i need more life/hit or more critchance?

crit hit chance and crit hit damage go together to make most use of it, wouldn't go one without the other. Your surviability is good so i'm assuming you just want to up your DPS which is getting more strength, crit chance and damage, and some attack speed here and there will get your DPS up. Generally most armour pieces can roll up to 200 strength other than shoulders which can roll 300 strength. The best chests will have 3 sockets and pants will have 2 to fit gems and get more strength. Crit chance rolls on helm, gloves, rings, bracers, amulet. Rings and Ammies with + bonus damage is also good to up DPS but rings and ammies are expensive pieces.

Go here if you want to see all the max rolls on items: http://www.d3maxstats.com/

By the way you can use weapon master passive and get straight up 15% increase damage also.
Just use which of the either armour passives that give you the most armour instead of using both.
Also I would change your last enchantress passive to give the 3% attack speed also.


thanks.

kind of sucks there is nothing in the game that can beat u already and u still have so much to do better :/

yeah i can imagine if you had really good tank barb gear you'd find it pretty damn hard to die, .... phasebeasts or golgors or malochors whichever one does / or used to one or two shot. I'm WW spec far from tank who dies, but no where near enough to be annoying. Well i guess if you can stand the grind and wait for 1.10 when PvP comes out i'm sure you find it challenging then.
d(O_O)b
Kerans
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy58 Posts
August 26 2012 15:08 GMT
#2596
On August 25 2012 19:18 vol_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 19:04 Kerans wrote:
A question for the WW crowd: how much would it cost to gear up a barb for a transition from a sword&board setup to a WW build that can somewhat comfortably farm act 3? Much as I like being a tank, it's becoming a bit boring after the first 400 hours or so... here's where I am at the moment

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kerans-2706/hero/1803066

Much obliged


Try replacing your battle rage for Rend, its so damn awesome. Makes tank barb a lot more fun and keeping up the dot and trying to apply it to as much stuff as possible is so much more engaging than frenzy+revenge spam that you don't go bored out of your mind.
I'm loving rend in my tank build and Im smashing through act 3 much faster now in not the greatest gear. I need the heals from blood lust rune but the higher damage one is pretty insane if you dont need the survivability. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sol-6226/hero/15778362



On August 25 2012 22:24 Big G wrote:
I think I'm in love with Rend-Bloodlust. <3

Farewell Revenge!


vol_, you were SO right, the new Rend is so OP it's not even funny, but my compatriot Big G definitely nailed it on the head: Rend is almost always better than Revenge under all circumstances that I've seen so far, you get more killing power, more killing speed, a ridiculous amount of maneuverability (just leap in, Rend everything with the lifesteal rune, get out and watch stuff die while getting your life back damn fast) and on top of that it's just so damn fun. Takes a while getting used to the fact that you need to actually manage your fury with both Rend and Marauder's Rage, but the damage output is insane and ranged mobs are your bitches now, molten or no molten. Only drawback is that you get your life back over time and not instantly, like Revenge does, but it's all a matter of practice I guess.
Definitely recommend it to everyone who might want to spice things up a bit: spec full tank, replace Revenge with Rend/lifesteal, keep marauder's rage, try it for a couple hours and laugh maniacally :D
"Walk softly, and carry a big stick"
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
August 26 2012 16:08 GMT
#2597
Just wanted to throw in that the new Fire Walkers and Adriel's Visage are both superb for a sprint/ww barb. I have both (my Adriel's is a 39% AOE proc chance), and the increase in damage is noticeable and dramatic. Plus, as a fun bonus, Fire Walkers automatically destroy and clutter/doors etc, so you just walk through them to kill :D
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 26 2012 16:09 GMT
#2598
On August 27 2012 01:08 Hairy wrote:
Just wanted to throw in that the new Fire Walkers and Adriel's Visage are both superb for a sprint/ww barb. I have both (my Adriel's is a 39% AOE proc chance), and the increase in damage is noticeable and dramatic. Plus, as a fun bonus, Fire Walkers automatically destroy and clutter/doors etc, so you just walk through them to kill :D


Those doors/clutters are free Fury though...
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
August 26 2012 16:25 GMT
#2599
On August 27 2012 01:09 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 01:08 Hairy wrote:
Just wanted to throw in that the new Fire Walkers and Adriel's Visage are both superb for a sprint/ww barb. I have both (my Adriel's is a 39% AOE proc chance), and the increase in damage is noticeable and dramatic. Plus, as a fun bonus, Fire Walkers automatically destroy and clutter/doors etc, so you just walk through them to kill :D


Those doors/clutters are free Fury though...

Not if you are running a build without bash, they arent
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
redLeg
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland16 Posts
August 26 2012 17:17 GMT
#2600
On August 26 2012 20:44 crisiscore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 20:23 redLeg wrote:
I need some advice on which 2 of these 3 weapons I should use(for WW build ofc):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading]


until now I've used the spear and the axe, but yesterday I found the sword and I figured that I would do more dmg with the sword+weaponsmaster(since I didn't use weaponsmaster with the spear, I used tough as nails). So right now I'm using the sword+axe but I've been thinking about using sword+spear since that would up my whirlwind dmg by quite a lot, at the cost of some LOH (~200) and +critdmg(~100).

Thanks in advance for your help!

For WW, spear is terrible as a mainhand, well i think spears are terrible for mainhand generally even more so for Weapon Master. I would use that sword for your main for the passive buff and your spear as an off-hand - the axe isn't that great because it's really really low DPS. For WW barbs, Axe / Maces, then Swords / Daggers are the ones you want for your mainhand. Only go mighty weapon with weapon master if you're going for the thrive on chaos.
Ideally you want the hightest DPS weapon you can find with strength and a socket for your mainhand of the mace/axe or sword/dagger variety. And for your off-hand you generally want high life on hit, high crit damage stat and a socket and generally a weapon which is decently fast, so swords, daggers or another type of weapon which rolls attack speed, It doesn't have to be the highest DPS (but shouldn't be as low as your axe either) as it forms part of your WW damage which uses main-hand and off-hand. Tornados is Mainhand only - .... others can corret me if I'm wrong.
This is an example for good main-hand and offhand:
The mainhand really just needs strength and socket and be of the right type, other stats are just bonuses. The stats on the off-hand are important. Also to get high LOH for WW spec, a good ammie with good amount of LOH is also recommended.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


thanks for your advice, I'll keep it in mind when I'm looking at new weapons =)

as a followup question why is it important to have +ias and a fast offhand weapon? does it increase the dmg of whirlwind?

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