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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 02 2012 17:10 GMT
#2201
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 19:23:58
July 02 2012 18:52 GMT
#2202
On July 02 2012 20:00 Krauug wrote:
I posted awhile ago, when I first was going into A2 inferno. I have now just defeated Ghom, only to be made aware, again, that my gear is not up to snuff.

(Having 4 kids denies Diablo.)

Gear: http://i.imgur.com/ZeIgw.jpg
Stats: http://i.imgur.com/o2DSi.jpg

Dps: 13k
crit%: 26%
hp: 32.3k
armor (cry): 7364
Resists: 890+
LoH: 772
Weakest item: boots
next 4 anticipated upgrades: boots / amulet / bracers / gloves

build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVQPXk!Zbe!acbZac

I have been trying to build crit, as there is a lot of synergy with many barbarian skills. With crit being popular, that means expensive upgrades.each upgrade is around 10m+ now. I would like to get seigebreaker runs started, but I am having difficulty with any champion mob and trash is challenging as well, requiring WotB.

I have been farming a1 without any challenge, a2 is annoying, but I may start farming there. a3 is not plausible at this point.

Can I ask how you solo'd Ghom? He does such a ridiculous amount of damage even with 1k resists.

Edit: I can farm champions after Ghom but I can't kill Ghom himself. Annoying.

Edit2: Yeah, I can solo Siegebreaker but not Ghom. This game is silly.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 19:37:10
July 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#2203
On July 03 2012 03:52 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 20:00 Krauug wrote:
I posted awhile ago, when I first was going into A2 inferno. I have now just defeated Ghom, only to be made aware, again, that my gear is not up to snuff.

(Having 4 kids denies Diablo.)

Gear: http://i.imgur.com/ZeIgw.jpg
Stats: http://i.imgur.com/o2DSi.jpg

Dps: 13k
crit%: 26%
hp: 32.3k
armor (cry): 7364
Resists: 890+
LoH: 772
Weakest item: boots
next 4 anticipated upgrades: boots / amulet / bracers / gloves

build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVQPXk!Zbe!acbZac

I have been trying to build crit, as there is a lot of synergy with many barbarian skills. With crit being popular, that means expensive upgrades.each upgrade is around 10m+ now. I would like to get seigebreaker runs started, but I am having difficulty with any champion mob and trash is challenging as well, requiring WotB.

I have been farming a1 without any challenge, a2 is annoying, but I may start farming there. a3 is not plausible at this point.

Can I ask how you solo'd Ghom? He does such a ridiculous amount of damage even with 1k resists.

Edit: I can farm champions after Ghom but I can't kill Ghom himself. Annoying.

Edit2: Yeah, I can solo Siegebreaker but not Ghom. This game is silly.


I did it like this guy. I also did it with a witch doctor ally who has more dps than me, since I have low dps. However, I could do this solo too, would just take longer.

With overpower, the redirect 30% damage rune and loh, you instantly regain full health once you use it. My barb isn't that greatly equipped, so I had to time it with other life gain skills and potions while my overpower was in cool down. However, since my barb's equip is not great, I'm now stuck in the game and can't beat the mobs on the bridge after beating ghom.


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Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
July 02 2012 20:13 GMT
#2204
always wanted to try ranged barb but last time i checked ah 5 fury reducing Lamentations were like 30mil!!?!?!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
July 02 2012 20:13 GMT
#2205
Stupid question guys:

For Superstition, does it reduce mob affixes damage by 20%? Like molten, arcane, poison, etc.? That means I take less damage when I get hit by those?

And how about Threatening Shout? Does that do the same thing or only reduces actual enemy attacks?
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
July 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#2206
I have no problem at all with Ghom, just keep alive the yellow oozes to trigger Revenge. No need to change build.

wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
July 02 2012 21:42 GMT
#2207
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.

Xan
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Norway257 Posts
July 02 2012 22:01 GMT
#2208
On July 03 2012 06:42 wwiv wrote:
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.


In my opinion it's just your build thats wrong, not enough damage to run a build like that.
You are basically running a glasscannon build with tank equipment, drop cleave,sprint ,battle rage and slam, and bring out the revenge spam with frenzy(maniac) and the defensive skills of your choice.
Personally i use Leap/overpower/wotb.
My own stats are about 54k hp, 750 res,10k armor with both passives and 21k dps and i can do cydea/asmo runs without deaths mostly.


Krauug
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 22:46:22
July 02 2012 22:31 GMT
#2209
On July 03 2012 03:52 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 20:00 Krauug wrote:
I posted awhile ago, when I first was going into A2 inferno. I have now just defeated Ghom, only to be made aware, again, that my gear is not up to snuff.

(Having 4 kids denies Diablo.)

Gear: http://i.imgur.com/ZeIgw.jpg
Stats: http://i.imgur.com/o2DSi.jpg

Dps: 13k
crit%: 26%
hp: 32.3k
armor (cry): 7364
Resists: 890+
LoH: 772
Weakest item: boots
next 4 anticipated upgrades: boots / amulet / bracers / gloves

build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVQPXk!Zbe!acbZac

I have been trying to build crit, as there is a lot of synergy with many barbarian skills. With crit being popular, that means expensive upgrades.each upgrade is around 10m+ now. I would like to get seigebreaker runs started, but I am having difficulty with any champion mob and trash is challenging as well, requiring WotB.

I have been farming a1 without any challenge, a2 is annoying, but I may start farming there. a3 is not plausible at this point.

Can I ask how you solo'd Ghom? He does such a ridiculous amount of damage even with 1k resists.

Edit: I can farm champions after Ghom but I can't kill Ghom himself. Annoying.

Edit2: Yeah, I can solo Siegebreaker but not Ghom. This game is silly.


I solo'd Ghom by swapping a couple skills and really staring at cool-downs.

The build I used was: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVQPRk!ZUe!ccbZZc

I also used potions during the fight as well. The big skill is Overpower, as it pretty much shoots you immediately to full (at least me, with 700+ LoH)

Took a couple tries, but worked. Doesn't matter, since the fields afterwards are too rough with current gear, however.

(Discovered that I cannot post to forum through iPhone. Work prevents posting at all.)
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
July 02 2012 22:44 GMT
#2210
I never even thought about overpower with that rune. Thanks a lot guys; I'll try it out once the servers are back up.
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
July 03 2012 02:08 GMT
#2211
On July 03 2012 07:01 Xan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 06:42 wwiv wrote:
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.


In my opinion it's just your build thats wrong, not enough damage to run a build like that.
You are basically running a glasscannon build with tank equipment, drop cleave,sprint ,battle rage and slam, and bring out the revenge spam with frenzy(maniac) and the defensive skills of your choice.
Personally i use Leap/overpower/wotb.
My own stats are about 54k hp, 750 res,10k armor with both passives and 21k dps and i can do cydea/asmo runs without deaths mostly.




thanks will look into it tonight, what runes are you using for overpower / wotb? i assume you are using the armor rune for leap?
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
July 03 2012 08:33 GMT
#2212
On July 03 2012 11:08 wwiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 07:01 Xan wrote:
On July 03 2012 06:42 wwiv wrote:
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.


In my opinion it's just your build thats wrong, not enough damage to run a build like that.
You are basically running a glasscannon build with tank equipment, drop cleave,sprint ,battle rage and slam, and bring out the revenge spam with frenzy(maniac) and the defensive skills of your choice.
Personally i use Leap/overpower/wotb.
My own stats are about 54k hp, 750 res,10k armor with both passives and 21k dps and i can do cydea/asmo runs without deaths mostly.




thanks will look into it tonight, what runes are you using for overpower / wotb? i assume you are using the armor rune for leap?


use crushing advance for overpower and the 100% dmg rune for WotB. Also try ignore pain + ignorance is bliss. Also, your life% is really low. Try getting a socketed helm and drop a 15% amethyst, it'll bump your hp to 47.5k; however, try this only after you use a better skill build and if you still are dying.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
July 03 2012 09:11 GMT
#2213
On July 03 2012 17:33 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 11:08 wwiv wrote:
On July 03 2012 07:01 Xan wrote:
On July 03 2012 06:42 wwiv wrote:
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.


In my opinion it's just your build thats wrong, not enough damage to run a build like that.
You are basically running a glasscannon build with tank equipment, drop cleave,sprint ,battle rage and slam, and bring out the revenge spam with frenzy(maniac) and the defensive skills of your choice.
Personally i use Leap/overpower/wotb.
My own stats are about 54k hp, 750 res,10k armor with both passives and 21k dps and i can do cydea/asmo runs without deaths mostly.




thanks will look into it tonight, what runes are you using for overpower / wotb? i assume you are using the armor rune for leap?


use crushing advance for overpower and the 100% dmg rune for WotB. Also try ignore pain + ignorance is bliss. Also, your life% is really low. Try getting a socketed helm and drop a 15% amethyst, it'll bump your hp to 47.5k; however, try this only after you use a better skill build and if you still are dying.


I have problem with act 3 too. May I ask what good is Overpower with crushing advance? I am using standard broad and sword which is

leap
ignore pain
warcry
Wotb
frenzy
revenge

If i should switch to overpower. which skill should i take out?
Krauug
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4 Posts
July 03 2012 09:55 GMT
#2214
Overpower with crushing advance is useful for Ghom due to his DoTs. The reflect damage throws the DoTs back, which trigger LoH, and can crit as well.

Outside of Ghom, it's meh.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
July 03 2012 10:11 GMT
#2215
On July 03 2012 18:11 pedduck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 17:33 javy925 wrote:
On July 03 2012 11:08 wwiv wrote:
On July 03 2012 07:01 Xan wrote:
On July 03 2012 06:42 wwiv wrote:
hey guys, this is probably PEBKAC but i am having some sustainability issues in act 3 on my new barb. i have a monk that farms act 3 regularly and has 810 all resist, 8k armor, 800 LoH while my barb has 720-905 resist and 9k armor, 500 LoH but for the love of god i have no idea why the latter feels so much more squishy.

these are my stats
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


current build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bRUkie!ZVe!ZbZcYY

could get some advice on what needs to be improved next? i am guessing i should up my resistance to 800+ and maybe work on the vitality a little.


In my opinion it's just your build thats wrong, not enough damage to run a build like that.
You are basically running a glasscannon build with tank equipment, drop cleave,sprint ,battle rage and slam, and bring out the revenge spam with frenzy(maniac) and the defensive skills of your choice.
Personally i use Leap/overpower/wotb.
My own stats are about 54k hp, 750 res,10k armor with both passives and 21k dps and i can do cydea/asmo runs without deaths mostly.




thanks will look into it tonight, what runes are you using for overpower / wotb? i assume you are using the armor rune for leap?


use crushing advance for overpower and the 100% dmg rune for WotB. Also try ignore pain + ignorance is bliss. Also, your life% is really low. Try getting a socketed helm and drop a 15% amethyst, it'll bump your hp to 47.5k; however, try this only after you use a better skill build and if you still are dying.


I have problem with act 3 too. May I ask what good is Overpower with crushing advance? I am using standard broad and sword which is

leap
ignore pain
warcry
Wotb
frenzy
revenge

If i should switch to overpower. which skill should i take out?


overpower +crushing advance is situational. If you have 600+ LoH, it alows you to tank magic dmg that ticks often (e.g., Ghom's poison or desecrator/molten/plague) because it gives you 30% dmg reduction AND it relfects the dmg, so it procs LoH. If you have ~450 fire/physical/arcane resist unbuffed, you can drop warcry and try overpower (this is what a really good barb, zrave, does: twitch.tv/zrave). It's something to try out but it may not work best for you(i perosnally don't use it).
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
July 03 2012 10:17 GMT
#2216
On July 03 2012 18:55 Krauug wrote:
Overpower with crushing advance is useful for Ghom due to his DoTs. The reflect damage throws the DoTs back, which trigger LoH, and can crit as well.

Outside of Ghom, it's meh.

Except if you can crit so frequently that you can keep the crushing advance buff on permanently, that is...
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
July 03 2012 13:11 GMT
#2217
On July 03 2012 18:55 Krauug wrote:
Overpower with crushing advance is useful for Ghom due to his DoTs. The reflect damage throws the DoTs back, which trigger LoH, and can crit as well.

Outside of Ghom, it's meh.


The 30% damage that it reflects is also mitigated as well. While not quite as much damage reduction as leap or ignore pain, the cooldown is short and shorter still with good crit. In some cases you can cast overpower again before the 4 second damage reduction/reflection is up for 100% uptime in big fights.

The reflect damage + LOH aspect is still very useful vs molten and plagued elites.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
July 03 2012 15:24 GMT
#2218
On July 03 2012 22:11 zylog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 18:55 Krauug wrote:
Overpower with crushing advance is useful for Ghom due to his DoTs. The reflect damage throws the DoTs back, which trigger LoH, and can crit as well.

Outside of Ghom, it's meh.


The 30% damage that it reflects is also mitigated as well. While not quite as much damage reduction as leap or ignore pain, the cooldown is short and shorter still with good crit. In some cases you can cast overpower again before the 4 second damage reduction/reflection is up for 100% uptime in big fights.

The reflect damage + LOH aspect is still very useful vs molten and plagued elites.


Really!! Another questions plz,

1 can reflect damage do critical aswell? or you mean it come from my attack?
2 If the damage that reflected is mitigated (by Overpower with crushing advance), does the item that has reflect damage also mitigated the damage too?

Thanks
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
July 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#2219
Is there a source where blizzard said they would nerf how sprint/ww works? People keep predicting it and it's annoying. Finally barbs can branch out to dps and these mad demon hunters are crying nerf. It's not like it's a herp derp hold left click mouse button build, and there is a chance for you to fuck up and not generate fury. I thought diablo was all about finding builds that synergies well.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 03 2012 16:09 GMT
#2220
If they nerf anything for barbs, it's going to be Frenzy lol.
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