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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
July 05 2012 22:19 GMT
#2241
After a week of being back, I managed to go from Act 2 to finally soloing Diablo. The last 20 hours of my 126 hours of playtime involved a significant overhaul of my equipment (+ Show Spoiler [old eq no warcry] +
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to + Show Spoiler [new eq w/ warcry] +
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). I credit the advice in this thread for making progression so seamless.

Now it's going to be more difficult because I want more survivability while keeping up DPS. I think a good Stormshield would help as well as a better belt and weapon. I guess I could also try out another build but I sort of want to farm and find at least one good item: I earned all my money from buying and selling on AH. >_<
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 05 2012 23:00 GMT
#2242
On July 06 2012 00:01 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:31 zylog wrote:
On July 05 2012 17:48 Xanczor wrote:
I have a question:

If I'm using the Thrive on Chaos Rune for Wrath of the Berserker (every 25 fury gained while in WOTB adds 1 sec to the duration), and I also use the passive unforgiving (regen 1 fury every 2 secs), does the fury gained from the passive contribute to the duration of WOTB?

It probably does, but the rate of fury regen is so slow that WotB would be done for 35s by the time you accumulated enough fury for 1 extra second. At the moment I think Into the Fray + Run Like the Wind is the best way to keep up fury production.


If you want fury, you want Crit+Battle Rage(ItF).

There are other less-explored options, like Attack Speed+Mighty Weapon with Weapon Master. I'm thinking of trying that since I'm dual wielding with a mighty weapon main hand. I'd need a fury spender for that also, and Hammer of the Ancients seems like a solid pick.


Small update on this, I was unable to keep WotB up with the build I mentioned above(It was up for almost twice as long though). I had to take battle rage in order to sustain it.
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#2243
Is it actually possible to farm a3/a4 with melee as barb without taking hours to kill elite mobs?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
July 05 2012 23:23 GMT
#2244
On July 06 2012 08:11 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Is it actually possible to farm a3/a4 with melee as barb without taking hours to kill elite mobs?


There are many factors to consider such as gear/positioning/control, but, yes, it is possible. I am usually to kill an elite pack about the time my WotB lasts bar a few special affix/mob types which it might take an extra 30-60 seconds.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 05 2012 23:31 GMT
#2245
On July 06 2012 08:11 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Is it actually possible to farm a3/a4 with melee as barb without taking hours to kill elite mobs?


Easily.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
July 05 2012 23:35 GMT
#2246
On July 06 2012 08:31 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:11 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Is it actually possible to farm a3/a4 with melee as barb without taking hours to kill elite mobs?


Easily.


Awesome. So I'm just leveling my barb, with a budget of 30-50 mil, any tipps on a melee DPS would be appreciated.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
July 05 2012 23:38 GMT
#2247
Just look up the whirlwind build
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 06 2012 00:24 GMT
#2248
There's nothing to it. You just gear up and run from elite to elite. You blow WotB only when there is frozen / fear / any cc or annoying affix as you'll be finding elites too fast for WotB to be ready every pack. This is the build I use right now: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WXVkiP!VYZ!aaccaZ My self-buffed stats are something like 50k dps, 50k hp, 9500 armor, 850 resist all, and 1400 LoH.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 06 2012 09:06 GMT
#2249
hey guys, completely new to the barb world. i'm pretty poor too after dumping 10M into my wizard. what are some bread and butter builds for barb? literally just started lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 06 2012 09:33 GMT
#2250
I havent been paying attention to barb news...has there been any indication from blizz that they intend to nerf the whirlwind build?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 11:12:40
July 06 2012 11:09 GMT
#2251
After a little d3 break I've decided i should dust off my barb and start playing again, but last time I played (after 1.0.3) a2 elites were giving me a hard time.
my gear
+ Show Spoiler +
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gear pic link
stats and skills (stats are unbuffed and at 0 fury)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

stats/skills pic link
crappy stuff, i know, but most of it was farmed by my dh and a few pieces were found on the barb (nothing from ah so far). My budget is low (a few hundred k gold), and i want to keep it for repairs mostly till i can get several million again.
Can I get some feedback on what needs improving asap (thinking )?

posted links to the pictures if images aren't working
Snarra
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark94 Posts
July 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#2252
On July 06 2012 20:09 akatama wrote:
After a little d3 break I've decided i should dust off my barb and start playing again, but last time I played (after 1.0.3) a2 elites were giving me a hard time.
my gear
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gear pic link
stats and skills (stats are unbuffed and at 0 fury)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

stats/skills pic link
crappy stuff, i know, but most of it was farmed by my dh and a few pieces were found on the barb (nothing from ah so far). My budget is low (a few hundred k gold), and i want to keep it for repairs mostly till i can get several million again.
Can I get some feedback on what needs improving asap (thinking )?

posted links to the pictures if images aren't working


You will have to replace every piece; none of them are very strong. But that's okay. I suggest you stick to Act1 for now, and farm a few millions.

As for the first pieces to replace; the chest piece and the vit ring are your weakest items, followed by your bracers and gloves. Pants, weapon and boots are okay for now.

1) Chest armor: look for one with high vit, life%, and a bit of strength. Don't need all res there. If you can't get life%, then just try to get a lot of str and vit.
2) Ring: try to get one with 60-70 str or vit, crit damage, and some other beneficial stat (dmg (i.e. 9-22+ dmg, life%, a resistance..)
3) Bracers: yours have high str, but rest is lackluster. Poison resistance is pretty useless. Try to get one with 60 all res, either str or vit, and 4% crit chance.
4) Gloves: should be able to get a better pair for not that much. Try to get some with all res, either str or vit (if you got str on bracers, then get vit on gloves to balance), and 7%+ crit chance.

General tip: always look for free affixes on your items. You usually don't have to pay extra for +fire resistance, for instance. So, say you're looking for some bracers; on top of the 60 all res, if you can get +30 physical/fire/arcane, that's great (those 3 are the most important resistances for a barb). And spread those out; you'll end up with an extra 50+ all res for totally free.
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
July 06 2012 13:55 GMT
#2253
On July 06 2012 21:25 Snarra wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 06 2012 20:09 akatama wrote:
After a little d3 break I've decided i should dust off my barb and start playing again, but last time I played (after 1.0.3) a2 elites were giving me a hard time.
my gear
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gear pic link
stats and skills (stats are unbuffed and at 0 fury)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

stats/skills pic link
crappy stuff, i know, but most of it was farmed by my dh and a few pieces were found on the barb (nothing from ah so far). My budget is low (a few hundred k gold), and i want to keep it for repairs mostly till i can get several million again.
Can I get some feedback on what needs improving asap (thinking )?

posted links to the pictures if images aren't working


You will have to replace every piece; none of them are very strong. But that's okay. I suggest you stick to Act1 for now, and farm a few millions.

As for the first pieces to replace; the chest piece and the vit ring are your weakest items, followed by your bracers and gloves. Pants, weapon and boots are okay for now.

1) Chest armor: look for one with high vit, life%, and a bit of strength. Don't need all res there. If you can't get life%, then just try to get a lot of str and vit.
2) Ring: try to get one with 60-70 str or vit, crit damage, and some other beneficial stat (dmg (i.e. 9-22+ dmg, life%, a resistance..)
3) Bracers: yours have high str, but rest is lackluster. Poison resistance is pretty useless. Try to get one with 60 all res, either str or vit, and 4% crit chance.
4) Gloves: should be able to get a better pair for not that much. Try to get some with all res, either str or vit (if you got str on bracers, then get vit on gloves to balance), and 7%+ crit chance.


General tip: always look for free affixes on your items. You usually don't have to pay extra for +fire resistance, for instance. So, say you're looking for some bracers; on top of the 60 all res, if you can get +30 physical/fire/arcane, that's great (those 3 are the most important resistances for a barb). And spread those out; you'll end up with an extra 50+ all res for totally free.


Yep, also, don't under-estimate the usefulness of health/gold pickup radius as well as movement speed. It has saved me so many times I can't even count them. I'd say a minimum of 7-14 total.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 23:45:38
July 07 2012 17:22 GMT
#2254
Hey guys, I need help in determining how to upgrade my barb equip. I'm stuck in inferno act 3 after beating ghom and can't really get past the bridge right after it as I die pretty fast. Been farming act 2 without finding any gosu items, but finally managed to sell a ring for 7 mill, so now have some money to spend. I've never had a ton of money and most I've had at one time was 2 million, and my most expensive item is my weapon for 1.85 mill. Majority of equip bought for <100k each.

Need help in determining what pieces to upgrade first and what stats to get. I've been getting all resist/vit/strength and my resist isn't as high as I'd like cause I was sacrificing some for more vit. Willing to spend all 7 mill, if it's possible to upgrade all gear, or specific gears if I don't have enough gold. Here's my equip/stats.

http://i.imgur.com/YrVAS.jpg
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 07 2012 20:28 GMT
#2255
On July 08 2012 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
Hey guys, I need help in determining how to upgrade my barb equip. I'm stuck in inferno act 3 after beating ghom and can't really get past the bridge right after it as I die pretty fast. Been farming act 2 without finding any gosu items, but finally managed to sell a ring for 7 mill, so now have some money to spend. I've never had a ton of money and most I've had at one time was 2 million, and my most expensive item is my weapon for 1.85 mill. Majority of equip bought for <100k each.

Need help in determining what pieces to upgrade first and what stats to get. I've been getting all resist/vit/strength and my resist isn't as high as I'd like cause I was sacrificing some for more vit because when I had 800-900 resist pre warcry, I was getting rocked. Willing to spend all 7 mill, if it's possible to upgrade all gear, or specific gears if I don't have enough gold. Here's my equip/stats.

http://i.imgur.com/YrVAS.jpg



i think gloves and helm are the weakest items you have. get a helm with a socket for some 15% more life. and get gloves with more damage modifiers. gloves can have great mods of this kind, so they are the kind of item that should be chosen rather offensive than defensive.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 07 2012 21:23 GMT
#2256
On July 08 2012 05:28 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
Hey guys, I need help in determining how to upgrade my barb equip. I'm stuck in inferno act 3 after beating ghom and can't really get past the bridge right after it as I die pretty fast. Been farming act 2 without finding any gosu items, but finally managed to sell a ring for 7 mill, so now have some money to spend. I've never had a ton of money and most I've had at one time was 2 million, and my most expensive item is my weapon for 1.85 mill. Majority of equip bought for <100k each.

Need help in determining what pieces to upgrade first and what stats to get. I've been getting all resist/vit/strength and my resist isn't as high as I'd like cause I was sacrificing some for more vit because when I had 800-900 resist pre warcry, I was getting rocked. Willing to spend all 7 mill, if it's possible to upgrade all gear, or specific gears if I don't have enough gold. Here's my equip/stats.

http://i.imgur.com/YrVAS.jpg



i think gloves and helm are the weakest items you have. get a helm with a socket for some 15% more life. and get gloves with more damage modifiers. gloves can have great mods of this kind, so they are the kind of item that should be chosen rather offensive than defensive.


Thanks, I'll look into those. I actually thought my gloves were one of my better items.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
July 08 2012 07:37 GMT
#2257
Just adding my two cents here.

I've beaten Diablo inferno with the following stats

~ 600 all res (buffed)
65k hp
8k dps
6k armor (buffed)
300 loh on a 800 dps weapon
+13k hp on health globes

In fact, when i hitted the inferno brick wall with my barb, i rerolled dh and had no real problem to storm through inferno until i met Diablo. After 4 hrs of try, i gave up. Much later, a barbarian friend of mine told me that my stats were more than sufficient to beat Diablo. I've done it on my first try and felt no real difficulty: the fight is just long (~ 25-30 mn) and you just need to stay focus.

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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 08 2012 09:12 GMT
#2258
On July 08 2012 06:23 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:28 Black Gun wrote:
On July 08 2012 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
Hey guys, I need help in determining how to upgrade my barb equip. I'm stuck in inferno act 3 after beating ghom and can't really get past the bridge right after it as I die pretty fast. Been farming act 2 without finding any gosu items, but finally managed to sell a ring for 7 mill, so now have some money to spend. I've never had a ton of money and most I've had at one time was 2 million, and my most expensive item is my weapon for 1.85 mill. Majority of equip bought for <100k each.

Need help in determining what pieces to upgrade first and what stats to get. I've been getting all resist/vit/strength and my resist isn't as high as I'd like cause I was sacrificing some for more vit because when I had 800-900 resist pre warcry, I was getting rocked. Willing to spend all 7 mill, if it's possible to upgrade all gear, or specific gears if I don't have enough gold. Here's my equip/stats.

http://i.imgur.com/YrVAS.jpg



i think gloves and helm are the weakest items you have. get a helm with a socket for some 15% more life. and get gloves with more damage modifiers. gloves can have great mods of this kind, so they are the kind of item that should be chosen rather offensive than defensive.


Thanks, I'll look into those. I actually thought my gloves were one of my better items.


Your gloves are definitely pretty all right. You could probably find better resist shoulders with relatively the same stats for a reasonable price.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 16:38:05
July 08 2012 16:36 GMT
#2259
I don't understand, I still can't do act3 with my barb.. I have (when buffed) 43k hp, 19k dps, 10k armor, 650+ AR (750 arcanic & lightning), 1200 LoH. Should I keep farming act1 ? I'm so bored right now I can't find a single good item and I can't stand doing act1 over and over :/
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
July 08 2012 18:24 GMT
#2260
im in the middle of a style switch/gear switch with functional mf so i also can no longer do act3 comfortably either so here is the creep path i used to do often and am doing again now that imo is the best you can do pre-act3 which with your stats you should be fine to do

start by choosing the soulstone chamber or kill belial quests in act 2 (if you can kill either of them quickly if not just choose either one it doesnt matter)

waypoint to the sewers of caldium and kill the first elite pack that usually spawns pretty close to the portal

next waypoint to the black canyon mines and quickly do a circle a bit above the portal to see if there are any close elites then walk south to the top area of the howling plateu where you can usually find one if not just curse your luck and tp home

next you want to waypoint to the road to alcarnus here you want to quickly look around for a goblin (dont kill it yet) then walk east to alcarnus where you will find at least one but usually 2 elite groups (down go up the stairs if you only find one none spawn up there) once youre done either wallk back and kill the goblin or tp home

next you will waypoint to the ancient path where you can occasionally find a goblin and or an elite pack. keep walking north into the desolate sands and check for the ancient device. then you want to search the sands for the vault of the assassin (one of the places with kulle's blood) its a random spawn but it seems to usually be somewhere around the top left

inside is a ton of elites in a relatively small area so you will be able to make plenty of money to get you into act3 after farming it a bit

also if you can kill kulle or belial quickly go ahead and do so after but i personally dont bother

hope it helps!
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