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On June 29 2012 09:11 TooL wrote:my 2h skill build which can clear act3/4 easy is ignore pain / ww - blood funnel / WOTB - insanity / War cry - impunity / frenzy - side arm / leap - iron impact gear: http://i.imgur.com/cweDT.jpg
WW actually works? I loved WW in D2 but havent seen it work in D3 aside from that DW WW/sprint build. Do you need any life on hit or life steal for that build? Also your gear is pretty damn good, mines mostly tank gear.
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yep, it works for me. i use it because it works better for me than the other offensive skills.
i have 900 LoH and 3% life steal but another key factor is that i have 46% crit or something like that.
i haven't tested it without the life steal or life on hit but i'm pretty sure it's a requirement for that build.
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Damn Belial is sooooooo tedious... trying him again today. Just got him to fucking 87k remaining and he did his explosions, I thought it was his enrage so I tried to burn him... didn't work.
Here I go again...
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On June 29 2012 09:11 TooL wrote:my 2h skill build which can clear act3/4 easy is ignore pain / ww - blood funnel / WOTB - insanity / War cry - impunity / frenzy - side arm / leap - iron impact gear: http://i.imgur.com/cweDT.jpg
Wow, that %ias ammy is one of the nicest I've seen :O. How much did you pay for that or did you find it?
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Okay what the fuck... I have 22k dps with berserker rage + battle rage + frenzy damage buff. I can't fucking kill Belial. I get him to like 100k and he fucking enrages. God damn it. Do I seriously need more DPS than that?
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What are people looking for in an amulet on a 1h+shield tanky build? Kymbo's seems overpriced and Blackthorne's is really expensive. I can't see any reasonable legendaries/sets so it seems best to avoid those until the buff. I picked this up for 500k, which seems like a steal, but I don't know if I need some other attribute on an amulet:
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I have 63k hp and ~600 resist without War cry (~850 with it) and 16.70% melee damage reduction. I'm not really sure what I'm lacking (besides expensive items like Stormshield and general improvements) so I'm looking for advice for progression into act 3+4.
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Your DPS is way way too low. Get rid of some HP for more DPS. Gear compliments gear so there isn't specific stats you should look for unless it can be rolled on a few select items (eg. +crit on bracers, +frenzy on belt, sockets, etc).
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Well, I spent a total of ~6mil on my equipment. Any kind of DPS increase seems stupidly expensive at this point. Weapons are like 20mil+ compared to mine which is worth like 1mil. I can't really get +frenzy on belt for any reasonable price which would provide the sort of benefits of SoE. I guess I'll start looking at replacements for my shittier items with ones that give DPS as well as other stats and then go from there. Thanks for the help!
Edit: Maybe not even 6 mil considering I have 2.4mil and a couple mil of stuff in AH.
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On June 29 2012 11:42 Durak wrote:
Well, I spent a total of ~6mil on my equipment. Any kind of DPS increase seems stupidly expensive at this point. Weapons are like 20mil+ compared to mine which is worth like 1mil. I can't really get +frenzy on belt for any reasonable price which would provide the sort of benefits of SoE. I guess I'll start looking at replacements for my shittier items with ones that give DPS as well as other stats and then go from there. Thanks for the help!
Wats the dps on your mace? Try use weapon master and ruthless passive and see if dps picks up. The thing you lack is prolly just some crit chance and dmg.
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On June 29 2012 11:02 javy925 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 09:11 TooL wrote:my 2h skill build which can clear act3/4 easy is ignore pain / ww - blood funnel / WOTB - insanity / War cry - impunity / frenzy - side arm / leap - iron impact gear: http://i.imgur.com/cweDT.jpg Wow, that %ias ammy is one of the nicest I've seen :O. How much did you pay for that or did you find it?
bought it for 6-8 mil i think
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Also get more strength! Str gives armour as well, so by trading few vit for str you don't lose tankiness.
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On June 29 2012 11:49 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:42 Durak wrote:
Well, I spent a total of ~6mil on my equipment. Any kind of DPS increase seems stupidly expensive at this point. Weapons are like 20mil+ compared to mine which is worth like 1mil. I can't really get +frenzy on belt for any reasonable price which would provide the sort of benefits of SoE. I guess I'll start looking at replacements for my shittier items with ones that give DPS as well as other stats and then go from there. Thanks for the help! Wats the dps on your mace? Try use weapon master and ruthless passive and see if dps picks up. The thing you lack is prolly just some crit chance and dmg.
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I found it earlier today. I could test out switching my passives from tough as nails and superstition. Basically stuff like my 100k shield and 200k shoulder and 200k ring could probably be improved to give me more DPS but I wasn't really sure what stats to look for since ias got nerfed and crit is generally super expensive atm.
On June 29 2012 11:51 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Also get more strength! Str gives armour as well, so by trading few vit for str you don't lose tankiness.
Well, except tons of vit stacks up with +14% life and it gives armor. I can definitely lose a hundred or two VIT though in exchange for DPS.
Edit: My shoulders cost 66k not 200k. >_<
Edit2: Spent 2 mil on new shoulders. That's more than I've spent on any item yet but I think the resistances are nice and it helps by adding some DPS. + Show Spoiler [shoulders] +
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So I tried the critical build, but not without WW... Sucks lol. I can only clear up to Act 2 (barely)
Too bad I dropped about 5 million to make it happen. I guess I need to spend more to actually get more tank without shield.
I'm doing dual-wield axes, each with 730-750 dps which is kinda low, but has 41% crit dmg each plus socket on both. I got about 900 all resists, 900 loh (from amulet and rings) but my armor, around 5000 is lacking because I don't have nerves of steel and tough as nails passives...
What do you guys think I can do to make it work? Both axes only cost me under 1.1 million for both, so not bad to get started, but my problem is with the survival, not dps.
I'll show my items later. Here's my build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WXPVki!ZYc!aaZcca
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As long as you hit about the 1000 RA and 10k armor with something like minimum 45k HP, it is more than enough to beat the entire game. At that point, trading VIT or some superfluous RA for STR/IAS/insert damage increase is a smarter option.
Right now my barb is on 1100 RA, 9.5k armor and 50k HP, I've been modifying gear to drop VIT for more STR and IAS. As it stands, I only have 1k VIT, but my STR is close to 1600 or 1700 for about 20k DPS.
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On June 30 2012 01:21 kethers wrote:
As long as you hit about the 1000 RA and 10k armor with something like minimum 45k HP, it is more than enough to beat the entire game. At that point, trading VIT or some superfluous RA for STR/IAS/insert damage increase is a smarter option.
Right now my barb is on 1100 RA, 9.5k armor and 50k HP, I've been modifying gear to drop VIT for more STR and IAS. As it stands, I only have 1k VIT, but my STR is close to 1600 or 1700 for about 20k DPS.
You're doing a similar skill build? Dual-wield, crit build? Good to hear I got numbers to compare to and try to achieve. What's your DPS and LoH? 10k armor is HARD to get without the tough as nails and nerves of steel passives... maybe even impossible.
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On June 30 2012 01:31 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:21 kethers wrote:
As long as you hit about the 1000 RA and 10k armor with something like minimum 45k HP, it is more than enough to beat the entire game. At that point, trading VIT or some superfluous RA for STR/IAS/insert damage increase is a smarter option.
Right now my barb is on 1100 RA, 9.5k armor and 50k HP, I've been modifying gear to drop VIT for more STR and IAS. As it stands, I only have 1k VIT, but my STR is close to 1600 or 1700 for about 20k DPS. You're doing a similar skill build? Dual-wield, crit build? Good to hear I got numbers to compare to and try to achieve. What's your DPS and LoH? 10k armor is HARD to get without the tough as nails and nerves of steel passives... maybe even impossible.
I'm not at home right now, so I can only give you approximations at the top of my head.
I am using a standard tanking build with:
Frenzy, Sidearm
Revenge, Provocation
Leap, Iron Impact
Ignore Pain, Iron Hide
WotB, Insanity
War Cry, Impunity
Both armor passives and Weapons Master because I have a spear. If there was another reliable DPS passive, I would consider dropping another armor passive. Berserker rage is OK, but popping Wrath sets you back a lot of Fury and between that and positioning/kiting, I don't consider it that reliable of a DPS increase.
I have roughly 19-20k DPS and 300ish LoH
Armor on gear is obtainable because non-Barb classes that put them up don't value Armor at all. So it is definitely possible to get high armor on gear. Of course, without both armor passives, it's close to impossible to get 10k armor
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so whats everyone's opinion on dual wield builds? is revenge still viable? does the loh stack or does it alternate between weapons?
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On June 30 2012 02:01 kethers wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:31 trinxified wrote:On June 30 2012 01:21 kethers wrote:
As long as you hit about the 1000 RA and 10k armor with something like minimum 45k HP, it is more than enough to beat the entire game. At that point, trading VIT or some superfluous RA for STR/IAS/insert damage increase is a smarter option.
Right now my barb is on 1100 RA, 9.5k armor and 50k HP, I've been modifying gear to drop VIT for more STR and IAS. As it stands, I only have 1k VIT, but my STR is close to 1600 or 1700 for about 20k DPS. You're doing a similar skill build? Dual-wield, crit build? Good to hear I got numbers to compare to and try to achieve. What's your DPS and LoH? 10k armor is HARD to get without the tough as nails and nerves of steel passives... maybe even impossible. I'm not at home right now, so I can only give you approximations at the top of my head. I am using a standard tanking build with: Frenzy, Sidearm Revenge, Provocation Leap, Iron Impact Ignore Pain, Iron Hide WotB, Insanity War Cry, Impunity Both armor passives and Weapons Master because I have a spear. If there was another reliable DPS passive, I would consider dropping another armor passive. Berserker rage is OK, but popping Wrath sets you back a lot of Fury and between that and positioning/kiting, I don't consider it that reliable of a DPS increase.
I use an almost identical build except I use Berserker Rage, and I also picked Threatening Shout(with intimidate) instead of Ignore Pain to help with kiters and rage. With Threatening Shout and War Cry, I can get my fury to full right after popping WotB.
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On June 30 2012 04:11 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
so whats everyone's opinion on dual wield builds? is revenge still viable? does the loh stack or does it alternate between weapons?
LoH stacks, so you don't lose too much defense by dropping a shield. While a shield will still make you tougher, you'll probably be sturdier than a 2H user if you use two LoH weapons.
As for the builds themselves, it's a good idea to just to use your current 1h+shield build, and keep the shield in your inventory for when you really need it. Revenge is still viable, just make sure you equip your higher damage(not DPS) weapon in your main hand.
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On June 30 2012 04:27 Novalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:11 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
so whats everyone's opinion on dual wield builds? is revenge still viable? does the loh stack or does it alternate between weapons? LoH stacks, so you don't lose too much defense by dropping a shield. While a shield will still make you tougher, you'll probably be sturdier than a 2H user if you use two LoH weapons. As for the builds themselves, it's a good idea to just to use your current 1h+shield build, and keep the shield in your inventory for when you really need it. Revenge is still viable, just make sure you equip your higher damage(not DPS) weapon in your main hand.
ah okay thats helpful advice, im torn because im sitting on a nice justice lantern which i know if i sell can fund me a very nice 2h or pair of 1hs
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