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Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
July 02 2012 20:07 GMT
#3141
On July 02 2012 17:10 NTTemplar wrote:
@DnameIN 32k/6,5k/600/105k/50%/269%/27% AS from rings, pants and boots

@Zidane ?? by just blasting them I suppose, they die in like 2 seconds

btw Inflexion I used to have some trouble with reflect, but I just bought an item with a ton of +life on hit and just switch too it when I meet that, and then it is no problem.

I have to ask why arcane orb over magic wep, and why astral presence.

I would think you lose a lot of dmg from not having magic wep, and since you are archon why use astral for more arcane power?


Hmm interesting, you mind posting the weapon with +life on it so I can look for something similar?

Even though archon is 'almost' always up. I find that the utility that orb brings when I am not in archon form helps me too much. I'm going by feeling but it seems to me that when I am fighting damage reflect elites or ranged mobs (spear guys, fat caster guys, bird firebals, etc.)

I can cast an orb (rather than waiting for tornado to hit - it is very random in open areas) and then can dodge projectiles with ease. I do whatever it takes to NOT DIE - I find I lose most time on my runs when I die. I feel the dps I gain from force weapon is not enough to warrant the utility I get from arcane orb.

I'm at high enough dps already I feel. Anything else is overkill for me at this point.

Astral presence helps with the situations against damage reflect for me. But I guess you do have a point and you may be right. I don't see myself using galvanizing ward (by chance, my gear has 15k+ extra healing from health globes - lol. One globe I am almost back to full life so I always leave globes hanging around when they appear if I don't need them). Perhaps Temporal Flux > Astral Presence will be a good fit as all my damage is arcane.

Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 22:57:39
July 02 2012 22:52 GMT
#3142
On July 02 2012 16:43 Inflexion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 16:01 NTTemplar wrote:
I farm act 3 quite comfy, using archon build: Magic wep, sparkflint, FA prismatic, archon, with galvanizing and glass cannon for passives.

Got critical mass along with twister and diamond skin if I should happen to go out of archon way early.

Dunno how to show gear like people have done.


Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 16:19 DnameIN wrote:
@NTTemplar
I am very interested to see at least your main stats, like HP/armor/all res/dps/crit/crit dmg/AS, thank you;)


I am using something similar. Improved Archon is just way to powerful at the moment. I've noticed significant improvements in time of my Act 3 runs; having twister/critical mass means there is almost no down time for improved archon. I start from the very beginning and complete the entire act.

Arcane Orb with Tap the Source,
Twister with Mistral Breeze (this is absolutely OP; I figure it will be patched soon - you can literally cast 3/4 of these into trash and in about 3-4 seconds my Improved Archon CD of 1min30secs will reset LOL),
Sparkflint,
Force Armor,
Diamond Skin Crystal Shell,
Improved Archon

Critical Mass, Astral Presence, Glass Cannon

I was using venom hydra instead of twister before. Switched over to twister and haven't looked back since.

The only issue I had before was damage reflect elites. Now, I just kite, drop 5/6 twisters, and spam diamond skin (so I literally take zero reflect damage as diamond skin is always up with critical mass).

Stats are:
98k dps (with familiar only - 110k dps with both), 43k hp, 380 all res, 5k armor, 52% crit chance, 260% crit damage, 1.40 attack speed

** The above stats are with all my skills above turned on/buffed up and with scoundrel helper


To be honest, with your gear though, I could run with literally any build and farm act 3 comfortably without using any passives. I think the person asking the question was talking about anyone being able to farm act 3 with a reasonable amount of gear.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
July 02 2012 23:11 GMT
#3143
On July 03 2012 05:07 Inflexion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:10 NTTemplar wrote:
@DnameIN 32k/6,5k/600/105k/50%/269%/27% AS from rings, pants and boots

@Zidane ?? by just blasting them I suppose, they die in like 2 seconds

btw Inflexion I used to have some trouble with reflect, but I just bought an item with a ton of +life on hit and just switch too it when I meet that, and then it is no problem.

I have to ask why arcane orb over magic wep, and why astral presence.

I would think you lose a lot of dmg from not having magic wep, and since you are archon why use astral for more arcane power?


Hmm interesting, you mind posting the weapon with +life on it so I can look for something similar?

Even though archon is 'almost' always up. I find that the utility that orb brings when I am not in archon form helps me too much. I'm going by feeling but it seems to me that when I am fighting damage reflect elites or ranged mobs (spear guys, fat caster guys, bird firebals, etc.)

I can cast an orb (rather than waiting for tornado to hit - it is very random in open areas) and then can dodge projectiles with ease. I do whatever it takes to NOT DIE - I find I lose most time on my runs when I die. I feel the dps I gain from force weapon is not enough to warrant the utility I get from arcane orb.

I'm at high enough dps already I feel. Anything else is overkill for me at this point.

Astral presence helps with the situations against damage reflect for me. But I guess you do have a point and you may be right. I don't see myself using galvanizing ward (by chance, my gear has 15k+ extra healing from health globes - lol. One globe I am almost back to full life so I always leave globes hanging around when they appear if I don't need them). Perhaps Temporal Flux > Astral Presence will be a good fit as all my damage is arcane.



Oh, didn't notice we use different runes for Twister, I am running with Wicked Wind so it stands still making open space not a problem and ranged not a problem.

Also I am running life on hit amulet+ring not wep

My reason for galvanizing isn't for the heal, but for my armor to stay on twice as long since my archon very rarely ends before 2 min so found galvanizing to be great for keeping FA up.

But definetly been considering Temporal Flux myself, but hope to instead just increase my damage enough that they die before they get close to me with normal speed instead.

I still have a few crap pieces I need to upg that should boost my damage significantly so hope that fixes it. Also if you don't have it, I recommend Inna's legs for movement speed, I found it really helps with staying in form, hoping to find another item slot I can get my last 7% speed from.

The advantage of Inna's legs is that they have atk speed, they got 1% crit which is nice, you can get 2 sockets, and they can have 140+ vit

Sure you lose a lot of int, but you gain attack speed and movement speed (also 1% crit can be valued at 18-22 int I'd say)
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
July 03 2012 03:36 GMT
#3144
So is there a cost efficient way to get from that 45k mark to 75k+ DPS mark without having to drop 30+M or 150$ into a 1hander with socket? I have been searching multiple times a day for upgrades and everything has a "touch" more int and then some all resist or maybe .5 more crit and cost jump is HUGE. Is this something I have to deal with and just settle for being 45k DPS wizard until something decent drops for me? I can't do Act 3 and just been farming Act 1 trying to be patient but I figure a week in I should have something to show for it and done zero upgrades made maybe 2m in item sales.

Are people who are showing 75-100K+ DPS just having endless supply of gold / RL funds? Maybe my stats are worse and I am focusing on wrong stats too much. I was going off guide on like page 149 to get good # of Crit / Crit Dmg / Int / Ias and balance your stats to ensure enough All resist / Hp too.

Here is photo of stats keep in mind I took weapon off to show its stats.
[image loading]

The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
July 03 2012 04:00 GMT
#3145
Thats just they way it is. I´m there myself, but with a weak 840 40%crit, socket, 130 int 1 hander I managed to sneak for 4 mil, the day before they nerfed IAS to the ground. Guess I was lucky I´m on EU, so I knew how hard the nerf was, before it hit EU Servers and could make some good deals on the AH.
So now I´m sittin at 75k and for maybe 20 mil, I can get to around 80k, but then it gets REALLY expensive.

babykoy
Profile Joined September 2010
12 Posts
July 03 2012 06:02 GMT
#3146
im still doing melee wizard - currently on act 3 Hell

my HP is around 48K
damage is 4.3K
with resistances hovering around 53-56%
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 03 2012 09:41 GMT
#3147
This is my mage Lanfear, a CM wizard with high-end gear. I plan to soon sell all the items for 100-200$ and cash out. I am sad to say that I have wasted my time, the build is a gimmick at best.

I am tired of seeing overpowered barbarians with 1/5 my gear and 15000 damage doing more damage than be and surviving just as well because of their abundant life regen and survival skills.

It was fun while it lasted, but Eh. The game has no end-game that is fun for more than 10 hours. I am selling and moving on to Guild Wars 2.

[image loading]

Here is the gear if anyone is interested at what is required too farm act 3.

[image loading]

HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 03 2012 09:51 GMT
#3148
hey you found your way to the right thread
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
July 03 2012 11:23 GMT
#3149
lol 200$ for that crap? really?
yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany414 Posts
July 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#3150
yeah that's pretty bad gear, tried to cash out mine which is a bit better, but didn't bother after looking the prices, would have got like 15€ xd
HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
July 03 2012 12:01 GMT
#3151
Alright I just beat Diablo on Hell, and would like some tips for inferno.

Firstly, I am hovering around 16k HP/18k DPS (with all buffs) using the Blizzard/Hydra + Piercing Orb or MM (Seeker) for bosses.

My resists are around 300~400 with Energy Armor.

I can't take a picture atm since the servers just went down but I'll take one tomorrow morning.

All help is appreciated!
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
July 03 2012 13:24 GMT
#3152
On July 03 2012 12:36 iLLusive wrote:
So is there a cost efficient way to get from that 45k mark to 75k+ DPS mark without having to drop 30+M or 150$ into a 1hander with socket? I have been searching multiple times a day for upgrades and everything has a "touch" more int and then some all resist or maybe .5 more crit and cost jump is HUGE. Is this something I have to deal with and just settle for being 45k DPS wizard until something decent drops for me? I can't do Act 3 and just been farming Act 1 trying to be patient but I figure a week in I should have something to show for it and done zero upgrades made maybe 2m in item sales.

Are people who are showing 75-100K+ DPS just having endless supply of gold / RL funds? Maybe my stats are worse and I am focusing on wrong stats too much. I was going off guide on like page 149 to get good # of Crit / Crit Dmg / Int / Ias and balance your stats to ensure enough All resist / Hp too.

Here is photo of stats keep in mind I took weapon off to show its stats.
[image loading]



Not really. Big DPS numbers come from stacking crit % and then crit dmg --- particularly on your weapon. And those items are ultra-inflated on the AH. I wouldn't be surprised if crit dmg is nerfed like IAS in the near future.

The cheaper route by far is to get your defenses up. I farm act 3 just fine with 40k dps/530 resist all/36k health/5k armor with FA, so you should look at upping your resist all, +armor, and vit while maintaining your current dps.
daredpanda
Profile Joined January 2012
United States60 Posts
July 03 2012 14:46 GMT
#3153
I give you $15 for the gear! All you have going is the res.
Terran sandwich with Archon bread. GG all day long!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 03 2012 16:27 GMT
#3154
On July 03 2012 20:23 Nizaris wrote:
lol 200$ for that crap? really?



Yes, actually.

The helm is worth over 25$ currently, the shield was bought for 19 million which is another 35-40, the weapon would sell fast for 15~, the amulet is worth around 10$, the rings 10-15, the boots 12-15, etc.

Maybe the master race EU serves are different, but my gear is worth well over 100$.
Vladiemier
Profile Joined July 2012
Poland1 Post
July 03 2012 21:50 GMT
#3155
i started the game 3 days ago and im using theese

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#lRkQXm!XYW!.ZaZb
Feel free to add me on EU VlaD#2534
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 03 2012 22:25 GMT
#3156
On July 04 2012 06:50 Vladiemier wrote:
i started the game 3 days ago and im using theese

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#lRkQXm!XYW!.ZaZb
Feel free to add me on EU VlaD#2534

Looks alright you can use anything at that level tho really. I like dissintergrate with chaos nexus. Just melts everything in seconds.
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KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
July 04 2012 00:50 GMT
#3157
only reason im still playing is to make the sickest pvp wizard
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
July 04 2012 01:21 GMT
#3158
On July 04 2012 09:50 KiWiKaKi wrote:
only reason im still playing is to make the sickest pvp wizard


Amen. ^_^
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 04 2012 01:41 GMT
#3159
On July 03 2012 18:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:
This is my mage Lanfear, a CM wizard with high-end gear. I plan to soon sell all the items for 100-200$ and cash out. I am sad to say that I have wasted my time, the build is a gimmick at best.

I am tired of seeing overpowered barbarians with 1/5 my gear and 15000 damage doing more damage than be and surviving just as well because of their abundant life regen and survival skills.

It was fun while it lasted, but Eh. The game has no end-game that is fun for more than 10 hours. I am selling and moving on to Guild Wars 2.

[image loading]

Here is the gear if anyone is interested at what is required too farm act 3.

[image loading]



Maybe if you wanted to play a tank you should've rolled barb...
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 04 2012 03:50 GMT
#3160
On July 04 2012 10:41 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 18:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:
This is my mage Lanfear, a CM wizard with high-end gear. I plan to soon sell all the items for 100-200$ and cash out. I am sad to say that I have wasted my time, the build is a gimmick at best.

I am tired of seeing overpowered barbarians with 1/5 my gear and 15000 damage doing more damage than be and surviving just as well because of their abundant life regen and survival skills.

It was fun while it lasted, but Eh. The game has no end-game that is fun for more than 10 hours. I am selling and moving on to Guild Wars 2.

[image loading]

Here is the gear if anyone is interested at what is required too farm act 3.

[image loading]



Maybe if you wanted to play a tank you should've rolled barb...


Maybe if I wanted to play the game how i wanted to, I should have rolled with a different gaming company?

Barbarians are a fucking ugly class. That is the sole reason I do not like the class. That actually matters to some people. Some people will spend an entire hour making a nice looking character in a game like Dark Souls or Skyrim.

Barbs in D3 look like space marines, and you can't mod it to look nice like a game such as Torchlight.
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