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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
I have about 4 million to upgrade my gear. What should I start with? Currently bidding for a helm, hopefully I can get 150int/4crit chance/mf/gf/socket for under 1 million.. ![]() ![]() To finance my future purchases, do you think I can sell any of these items for 8-digit sums of gold? | ||
Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
God yes... I can go back to a fun wizard playstyle. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 29 2012 11:38 Heh_ wrote: Okay, so I've switched from a WD to a wizard, yeah WD sucks lol. I've already invested heavily into my gear and passed most of it down to my wizard, except for the offhand and voodoo mask helm. Bought a pretty decent 2h for 2.1 million, tons of crit dmg but I lose the crit chance from offhand, sadly. I have about 4 million to upgrade my gear. What should I start with? Currently bidding for a helm, hopefully I can get 150int/4crit chance/mf/gf/socket for under 1 million.. ![]() ![]() To finance my future purchases, do you think I can sell any of these items for 8-digit sums of gold? Your bracers are pretty good. They might go for 20 mill+. But all of your gear needs work really.... Wizards need to gear more towards survivability, so you should be looking for all resist along with stats on your chest, legs, shoulders, belt mainly. Your rings are pretty decent, as is your amulet, I'd focus on those last. | ||
Skyro
United States1823 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:47 alQahira wrote: Any build ideas for Cydaea? She is kicking my ass. So many spiders... I have 40k dps 40k hp 3500 armor and 500 resists all unbuffed and I can't seem to kill the spiders fast enough. Also after she first goes up it seems like she only stays down for 10 sec, then leaves and summons more spiders. I have 34% crit in case there is some critical mass build that would be useful. Meteor maybe? Life on Kill items pretty much trivializes Cydaea. I don't know what gear level you need exactly but spiders die from 1 blizzard for me. | ||
noD
2230 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 29 2012 11:38 Heh_ wrote: Okay, so I've switched from a WD to a wizard, yeah WD sucks lol. I've already invested heavily into my gear and passed most of it down to my wizard, except for the offhand and voodoo mask helm. Bought a pretty decent 2h for 2.1 million, tons of crit dmg but I lose the crit chance from offhand, sadly. I have about 4 million to upgrade my gear. What should I start with? Currently bidding for a helm, hopefully I can get 150int/4crit chance/mf/gf/socket for under 1 million.. ![]() ![]() To finance my future purchases, do you think I can sell any of these items for 8-digit sums of gold? U should be able to find a shoulder with higher int higher vit and double resist (all + some other) for 200k, I know since i bought one of those 10 minutes ago ![]() | ||
whyjesse
6 Posts
I have 15M to play with, where should I spend it? What items do i have that are currently very good? 26K HP, 40K DPS, 700 buffed resists, 5500 buffed armor aps: ~1.55; crit%: ~26%; critdmg: ~150% 18 AP on crit Build: 1) MM-Seeker (ap generator) 2) AO-Celestial (need some penetrating) 3) Teleport-Wormhole (fracture doesn't work well with MI, also MI doesn't escape far enough for certain affixes) 4) MI-Duplicates (cc breaker, i die more often to cc than to heavy damage where DS is more useful) 5) Hydra-Venom (obvious) 6) EA-Prismatic (at 700 resists i feel comfy w/o FA) A) Glass Cannon B) Illusionist C) Temporal Flux Helm: 150Int, 4.5%crit, 8APonCrit, 14%life-socket Chest: 150Int, 240vit, +250armor Legs: 150Int, 160vit, 50AR, +280armor Belt: 110Int, 50AR, +210armor Shoulder: 90Int, 75AR, 300liferegen, 10K health globes (useful in some cases!) Gloves: 160int, 7IAS, 5.5%crit Bracer: 140Int, 75vit, 4%crit Boots: 80Int, 30Vit, 60AR, 12%ms Ammy: 100Int, 45AR, 155LoH, 200liferegen, 6%crit Ring1: 70Int, 6IAS, +150armor, 2.5%crit Ring2: 90Int, 70Vit, 60AR, 31%critdamage source: +70-350, 3%crit, 10APoncrit wep: 1.4aps sword, 870dps, 180int, 65%critdmg thanks~ | ||
Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
@Itsmedudeman: Most of them was my WD gear. Complete glass cannon, tried to slowly upgrade my gear but upgrades wer too expensive. Didn't realize the bracers had max crit chance.. and I bought it for 2.5mil. Anyone wants to buy it before I put it up on the AH? Thinking of 25mil starting, 100mil buyout. There's literally no items that are comparable.. @noD: Where do you find such shoulders that are 200k... I just bought a 163int 89vit 39fireres 44allres shoulders for 2.5million (1d 11h item)... The rest are 5mil for inferior items, or 10mil for slightly superior items.. Americas server BTW.. Don't think the EU server has such massive price deflation haha. | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On June 29 2012 11:38 Heh_ wrote: Okay, so I've switched from a WD to a wizard, yeah WD sucks lol. I've already invested heavily into my gear and passed most of it down to my wizard, except for the offhand and voodoo mask helm. Bought a pretty decent 2h for 2.1 million, tons of crit dmg but I lose the crit chance from offhand, sadly. I have about 4 million to upgrade my gear. What should I start with? Currently bidding for a helm, hopefully I can get 150int/4crit chance/mf/gf/socket for under 1 million.. To finance my future purchases, do you think I can sell any of these items for 8-digit sums of gold? 150 allres ? you need at lest 3-400 and run FA. if u can get up to 5-600 resists then u can switch to Prismatic and lol through act3. I'm sitting at 45k dps 30% crit 200% crit damage 32k hp and 900 fire/physical resist (others 800) 5k armor. i wouldn't anything else then +all res +fire or +all res +physical the other resists are imo worthless. i'd start with belt, pants, shoulders and boots (aka shit that can't have crit). most valuable item is probably the neck ? dunno about 8 digits tho ![]() | ||
noD
2230 Posts
On June 29 2012 15:16 Heh_ wrote: Thanks for the help guys. @Itsmedudeman: Most of them was my WD gear. Complete glass cannon, tried to slowly upgrade my gear but upgrades wer too expensive. Didn't realize the bracers had max crit chance.. and I bought it for 2.5mil. Anyone wants to buy it before I put it up on the AH? Thinking of 25mil starting, 100mil buyout. There's literally no items that are comparable.. @noD: Where do you find such shoulders that are 200k... I just bought a 163int 89vit 39fireres 44allres shoulders for 2.5million (1d 11h item)... The rest are 5mil for inferior items, or 10mil for slightly superior items.. Americas server BTW.. Don't think the EU server has such massive price deflation haha. I bought 1 with 135 int only 80 vit 72 all and 38 fire i think .. that is why .... edit: it's na and wow i did make a fine deal, all of them are 1mi + now ![]() | ||
calgar
United States1277 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On June 30 2012 00:10 calgar wrote: I'm getting rocked on ghom... any specific build advice? I'm trying glass cannon/astral/galvanizing for passives, my AO build only gets him to 50% before everything is covered by poison clouds. Same, cant get below 50% no matter what. Terrible they still havent fixed it, died 40+ times, tried every viable skill combo. No idea wtf to do :/ | ||
calgar
United States1277 Posts
On June 30 2012 00:15 Phenny wrote: The kicker is really that he puts the cloud both on you, and under himself. I've tried to make it so that they overlap but the poison goo hits very hard and so does he. If I get too close to try and make him overlap it then I get damaged very heavily... I'm trying to take him in a clockwise circle now but after 12-14 clouds there's just nowhere left to go. I'm at 40-45k dps depending on setup.Same, cant get below 50% no matter what. Terrible they still havent fixed it, died 40+ times, tried every viable skill combo. No idea wtf to do :/ He also paths through the middle frequently which sucks because he takes that space up for potential kiting also. | ||
Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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Phael
United States281 Posts
Stacking slows for this guy helps as well, temporal flux + blizzard + cold weapon follower reduces him to a crawl. | ||
Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
Here are my stats and gear: 20k DPS / 25k buffed. 3400 armor, 5800 buffed. 360 AllRes. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmmRsTeOweASdFpUT1J1dmVOSXFMcmVuck41c2k2VUE I plan on switching to 1h/OH, and could put all 20m into that, with a 10m weapon and 10 m OH. If I went that route, I would be fine to spend a day or two stalking the AH to get a good deal at that price. What kind of stats would you hold out for at the 10m price level for each slot? OR, would you spend less money on the weap/oh and spread it around a little more evenly to get more crit%/dmg? While that does make sense to spend less on each item overall, due to decreasing benefit per cost as you go higher in the millions, I worry that if I bought 4 items they'd be obsolete much sooner than if I bought 2. Also, how does anyone stay alive in inferno without LoK? I've been relying pretty heavily on a +2700 LoK weapon, and it doesn't look like that will be a stat that I will have on my next. | ||
Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
![]() My stats: AO/hydra with force/diamond/weapon dmg+/tele 37k dps with 0.94 aps 25k life mid 200's all res unbuffed 30% crit chance 115% crit dmg (only 65 from weapon with 1220 DPS) keeping a tight budget in mind I was under the impression that int > crit dmg > crit chance > attack speed should be my priorities for maxing dmg does that apply for 1handers as well? Actually I have a list of things I was wondering about so I'll get that out of the way: 1. How does penetrating skills get affected by +AP on crit? 2. Since 1handers have low base dmg, should I prioritize +dmg on rings and ammies or does high int still win? 3. Does crit dmg get factored into weapon DPS? 4. Is Andariel's helm even good on wizard? A friend gave it to me but I feel like there are plenty of affordable rares that could do better. On a related note, only wizard hats are fugly. Is it true that there's a dye to make them invisible (make it look like I'm not wearing a helm?) 5. If I'm on a tight budget (4 mil, I've never had more than a million until a few hours ago when I was going to salvage a 59% crit dmg, 6.5% crit chance + socket and 2 crap mods amulet and my friend told me I could sell it for quite a bit. Instasold for 4 mil on the AH), what's the cheapest way to max out my damage in terms of which body parts are cheap. Weapons seem to only increase 20 DPS per million and exponentially after 10 mil or so. 6. Off topic but bought a 100 int 136 vit 6.5% crit chance +10% life + 2 trivial mod amulet for 300k, worth it? Asian server, highest 2h DPS weapon for 1 mil is 1350 for reference. Everything is put up for ridiculous amounts of gold here so I have no idea how to value items right now. 7. Is the passive skill with +4 mana on each cast of signature spells ever worth it? Don't think I've seen anyone use it and I've read the last 50 pages of this thread. It might be because I'm playing on the stupid Korean version so it took a while to figure out what skills you guys were talking about. 8. Can stacking life regen realistically subtitute poor dmg reduction? Any advice on building a cost efficient wizard would be appreciated. | ||
Inflexion
Canada560 Posts
On June 29 2012 19:46 Nizaris wrote: 150 allres ? you need at lest 3-400 and run FA. if u can get up to 5-600 resists then u can switch to Prismatic and lol through act3. I'm sitting at 45k dps 30% crit 200% crit damage 32k hp and 900 fire/physical resist (others 800) 5k armor. i wouldn't anything else then +all res +fire or +all res +physical the other resists are imo worthless. i'd start with belt, pants, shoulders and boots (aka shit that can't have crit). most valuable item is probably the neck ? dunno about 8 digits tho ![]() I have to respectfully disagree. There seems to be so much emphasis placed on having all resists. I'm not saying it is not important but it is overemphasized to a point where if you have a limited budget there is no way you'll should sit at 45kdps 32khp and 800 res as opposed to something like 75kdps 40khp and 400 res. Almost everything in act 3 inferno is kiteable. If you're getting hit by standard trash mobs, you are bad - learn to kite and learn to dodge projectiles. Most elites are easily kiteable, whether temporal flux/AO or blizzard/hydra or whatever kiting methods you use (that discussion is for another day). Personally, I don't have all day to play so I have to spend my gold wisely. I am currently sitting at 110kdps buffed like 48%crit chance and 250%, 45khp, 400 all res (running Force armor still, I never get hit for more than 3 consecutive hits in a row + diamond skin makes all elites killable). The only issues I have are damage reflect phasebeasts, which even if you had 1000 all res with my dps, they'll still own your face. You can just lure them into a corner, die, respawn and continue with your run. Even the BEST geared wizards I know/watch on stream get owned by phasebeasts with OP pre-fixes. A good offense is a good defense. Especially as wizard. There is just so much utility with skills/defense CDs that if you are on a budget - always stack DPS over all res. Your 'lacking' in all res can be made up with great kiting ability and skills; dps can't be made up. You either do this much damage, or that much damage. I would much rather have something like 75k dps, 40k hp, 300-400all res compared to 45k dps, 32k hp, 800-900all res. And I'm positive that the difference is the same price in gold. I feel all res (gearing towards the 800+ range is a luxury stat). You shouldn't be 'focusing' on all res until you're at 1900+ int, 900+ vit, 75k dps+ buffed (with force weapon or familiar sparkflint - only 1). Then you can start farming for gear/gold, and buying equipment to swap out for the same int/dmg stats but now with all res. | ||
Inflexion
Canada560 Posts
On June 30 2012 02:07 Heen wrote: I've been playing a wizard on vacations (military ![]() My stats: AO/hydra with force/diamond/weapon dmg+/tele 37k dps with 0.94 aps 25k life mid 200's all res unbuffed 30% crit chance 115% crit dmg (only 65 from weapon with 1220 DPS) keeping a tight budget in mind I was under the impression that int > crit dmg > crit chance > attack speed should be my priorities for maxing dmg does that apply for 1handers as well? Actually I have a list of things I was wondering about so I'll get that out of the way: 1. How does penetrating skills get affected by +AP on crit? 2. Since 1handers have low base dmg, should I prioritize +dmg on rings and ammies or does high int still win? 3. Does crit dmg get factored into weapon DPS? 4. Is Andariel's helm even good on wizard? A friend gave it to me but I feel like there are plenty of affordable rares that could do better. On a related note, only wizard hats are fugly. Is it true that there's a dye to make them invisible (make it look like I'm not wearing a helm?) 5. If I'm on a tight budget (4 mil, I've never had more than a million until a few hours ago when I was going to salvage a 59% crit dmg, 6.5% crit chance + socket and 2 crap mods amulet and my friend told me I could sell it for quite a bit. Instasold for 4 mil on the AH), what's the cheapest way to max out my damage in terms of which body parts are cheap. Weapons seem to only increase 20 DPS per million and exponentially after 10 mil or so. 6. Off topic but bought a 100 int 136 vit 6.5% crit chance +10% life + 2 trivial mod amulet for 300k, worth it? Asian server, highest 2h DPS weapon for 1 mil is 1350 for reference. Everything is put up for ridiculous amounts of gold here so I have no idea how to value items right now. 7. Is the passive skill with +4 mana on each cast of signature spells ever worth it? Don't think I've seen anyone use it and I've read the last 50 pages of this thread. It might be because I'm playing on the stupid Korean version so it took a while to figure out what skills you guys were talking about. 8. Can stacking life regen realistically subtitute poor dmg reduction? Any advice on building a cost efficient wizard would be appreciated. Just looking at your stats and anyone attempting to tell you what to do will be useless. You need to tell us your goal. Do you want to farm act 1 inferno (pretty good drop rates for difficulty) or do you want to farm act 3 inferno and get end game gear so you can build a godly wizard? We need to know your goal; otherwise we won't be able to give you advice. Obviously, if you're planning to farm act 1 inferno for a time before progressing foward. Then all res, armor and what not are almost trivial. Nothing in act 1 will be able to hit you anyways, so you can just max out on dps. But if you want to farm act 3 inferno then it becomes a lot more difficult. You'll have to be more well rounded in terms of stats as you will need to kite more often as mobs/elites will, just be nature, be in your face, etc. Stick with 2 hander until you have 50million gold+ to spend on mainhand/offhand. 1hand/offhand is truly for end game/geared wizards. This is for 2 hander, (your build is perfect, wouldn't chance anything about it - just make sure you're using arcane orb with tap the source not anything else) For helm, bracer, amulet, rings, gloves, your priorities are crit chance, crit dmg, intellect, attack speed For chest armor, pants, shoulders, belt as much intellect as possible along with vitality (the benefits you'll gain from all res will be so small with your budget that it is not a stat you should look for in equipment, yet) you should look for the highest DPS two handed mace that displays a speed of 0.9 attacks per second. If you can get a socket in it, perfect. Put a flawstar emerald in it. | ||
Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On June 30 2012 04:55 Inflexion wrote: Just looking at your stats and anyone attempting to tell you what to do will be useless. You need to tell us your goal. Do you want to farm act 1 inferno (pretty good drop rates for difficulty) or do you want to farm act 3 inferno and get end game gear so you can build a godly wizard? We need to know your goal; otherwise we won't be able to give you advice. Obviously, if you're planning to farm act 1 inferno for a time before progressing foward. Then all res, armor and what not are almost trivial. Nothing in act 1 will be able to hit you anyways, so you can just max out on dps. But if you want to farm act 3 inferno then it becomes a lot more difficult. You'll have to be more well rounded in terms of stats as you will need to kite more often as mobs/elites will, just be nature, be in your face, etc. Stick with 2 hander until you have 50million gold+ to spend on mainhand/offhand. 1hand/offhand is truly for end game/geared wizards. This is for 2 hander, (your build is perfect, wouldn't chance anything about it - just make sure you're using arcane orb with tap the source not anything else) For helm, bracer, amulet, rings, gloves, your priorities are crit chance, crit dmg, intellect, attack speed For chest armor, pants, shoulders, belt as much intellect as possible along with vitality (the benefits you'll gain from all res will be so small with your budget that it is not a stat you should look for in equipment, yet) you should look for the highest DPS two handed mace that displays a speed of 0.9 attacks per second. If you can get a socket in it, perfect. Put a flawstar emerald in it. I guess my goal is to do siege runs in act 3 with the piercing rune for AO which requires a signature spell to keep my mana pool up. Then proceed to act 4 and see if I can beat Diablo solo. just bought an offhand: 105-374 dmg / 10 AP on crit / 57 int / 80 vit / +5% life / 45 life per sec for 1 mil. Now I'm looking for the best 1.2 aps weapon I can get for ~2 mil. Basically I'm going to switch to a 1h + offhand no matter what. I can't stand the slow attack speed :/ not that I'm not used to it or dying because of it. I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself since the consensus here is that 2h > 1h in terms of efficiency but I've had enough of 2h for now. Right now I'm not sure if I should get a +AP on crit helm or just use the +mana rune on MM or the +mana on signature spell passive. Andariel's helm doesn't seem most optimal for what I'm trying to accomplish though.. hrmm.. | ||
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