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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
July 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#421
Got to level 53 with my barb. Had a few scary moments along the way. I haven't really farmed / re-run any areas in my whole quest. I had died once previously with a level 27 barb to the crazy exploding guys in act 3 (never ran into them in SC since I didn't really pay attention when I was playing through once on softcore, now they give me nightmares, even on normal).

Any advice on the tradeoff between life / resistance on gear? I only learned yesterday about the mode so I could match any combination of skills that I wanted (blew my mind, I'm such a noob). I think I need to kind of re-gear for life on hit + higher attack rate which has not been what I'm doing so far (still not maxed so regearing often enough anyways). I've mostly been getting great gear by chilling watching tv and just scanning the AH for bargains, found some pretty great ones on occasion that I could hardly believe.

Is there a TL hardcore IRC or even diablo 3 chat worth going to?
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Samsa
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany72 Posts
July 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#422
On July 10 2012 03:30 KingDime wrote:
Would it be safe to venture into A2 inferno as a barb with the following:

50k health
12k dps
500 AR (600 PR)
9.5k armor

It would be doable i'd say, a little low on the DPS but else your okay
my WD got:
45k hp
26k dps
450 AR
3.2k armor
and i did Maghda so far, champions are tough though
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#423
On July 10 2012 03:30 KingDime wrote:
Would it be safe to venture into A2 inferno as a barb with the following:

50k health
12k dps
500 AR (600 PR)
9.5k armor

Your defenses look ok, but what sort of LoH do you have?
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:36:33
July 09 2012 22:35 GMT
#424
So here I was in a3 hell, lvl 56 DH, doing good. Glad I reached a3 because I can safely and quickly grind the ramparts to 60. Ofcourse the first thing that happens: A bunch of waller/arcane/fast Fallen sprint down the ramp, and proceed to completely surround me with walls, then drop arcane sentries on top of me. Fuck. Couldn't even roll out of there.

Oh well, new DH.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 16:22:40
July 10 2012 16:21 GMT
#425
On July 10 2012 02:08 DerSchober wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:13 Ektor Baboden wrote:
Just finished Act IV at Nightmare, when I have time I'll make an attempt at Hell.
Monk level 52, first time I play a monk or hardcore.

Fuck yeah.

But I think I need more resistances, my highest is fire at about 100, I'd like to push it up to 150 if possible.


i (monk) finished hell without any res at all, was playing very slowly tho and had like 40k hp


I agree with other, you don't really need res for Hell. Just focus for Vit + Dex and you will be fine ( i also have a monk which is now really near to start Inferno).


Question: How much DPS you need to be able to kill the Butcher in Infenro before he enrage?
n_n
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 10 2012 16:38 GMT
#426
I seem to remember I did it with 11K DPS (on softcore), but please DO NOT TRUST THIS NUMBER because I am not sure.

By the way, I found a couple good pieces with Fire Resistance in Hell, then I bought another 3 pieces with FR on the AH for about 80K overall. Now I'm standing strong at 200AR with my monk. Everyone says it's not necessary, but it's really nice to be able to withstand plagued/arcane mobs without that much of worry. Of course I am very careful with positioning, but the occasional hits by the arcane sentries (arcane/vortex/waller, ouch) don't hurt me that much.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 17:35:42
July 11 2012 17:31 GMT
#427
On July 11 2012 01:21 FaCE_1 wrote:
Question: How much DPS you need to be able to kill the Butcher in Infenro before he enrage?

Well, I kind of overkilled it.

Monk, 18k dps buffed with +15% from the heal (with enchantress, who had 4.5k dps herself). Also important is having enough resists/LoH to be able to attack him non-stop.

On July 11 2012 01:38 Ektor Baboden wrote:
By the way, I found a couple good pieces with Fire Resistance in Hell, then I bought another 3 pieces with FR on the AH for about 80K overall. Now I'm standing strong at 200AR with my monk. Everyone says it's not necessary, but it's really nice to be able to withstand plagued/arcane mobs without that much of worry. Of course I am very careful with positioning, but the occasional hits by the arcane sentries (arcane/vortex/waller, ouch) don't hurt me that much.

I agree with you, starting to add +elem resist in Hell just makes it a huge amount safer and doesn't cost that much. I finished Hell with around 200-300 resists and it made sure nothing was a threat.
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
July 11 2012 17:44 GMT
#428
On July 10 2012 07:35 Mastermyth wrote:
So here I was in a3 hell, lvl 56 DH, doing good. Glad I reached a3 because I can safely and quickly grind the ramparts to 60. Ofcourse the first thing that happens: A bunch of waller/arcane/fast Fallen sprint down the ramp, and proceed to completely surround me with walls, then drop arcane sentries on top of me. Fuck. Couldn't even roll out of there.

Oh well, new DH.


Those first stairs are scary, when they nerfed that catapault shot there they scripted the mobs so they don't detect collision so they can easily just run right past you and surround you. Go up very carefully and start running as soon as you see them move down.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
July 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#429
On July 12 2012 02:31 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 01:21 FaCE_1 wrote:
Question: How much DPS you need to be able to kill the Butcher in Infenro before he enrage?

Well, I kind of overkilled it.

Monk, 18k dps buffed with +15% from the heal (with enchantress, who had 4.5k dps herself). Also important is having enough resists/LoH to be able to attack him non-stop.



Well, I got 960 res but 0 LoH

But taking a helper that do dps instead of the templar that just tank is a good idea !.
n_n
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
July 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#430
I know the AH for HC is slower, but I was very surprised to see the utter lack of -level req items on the AH last night. My WD is now 41 so I was looking for weapons to buy sometime within the 40s and there were only about 5 items on the whole AH with -level req 10 or more. Quite surprising.. but I guess a lot of HC'ers are probably gobbling them up.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 11 2012 18:49 GMT
#431
On July 12 2012 03:22 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 02:31 Dfgj wrote:
On July 11 2012 01:21 FaCE_1 wrote:
Question: How much DPS you need to be able to kill the Butcher in Infenro before he enrage?

Well, I kind of overkilled it.

Monk, 18k dps buffed with +15% from the heal (with enchantress, who had 4.5k dps herself). Also important is having enough resists/LoH to be able to attack him non-stop.



Well, I got 960 res but 0 LoH

But taking a helper that do dps instead of the templar that just tank is a good idea !.

More res than me (had 750) but I had 800LoH. With your res butcher will pretty much do no damage to you though.
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
July 12 2012 22:40 GMT
#432
On July 12 2012 03:27 Psyqo wrote:
I know the AH for HC is slower, but I was very surprised to see the utter lack of -level req items on the AH last night. My WD is now 41 so I was looking for weapons to buy sometime within the 40s and there were only about 5 items on the whole AH with -level req 10 or more. Quite surprising.. but I guess a lot of HC'ers are probably gobbling them up.


Haha yeah I'm looking for one as well. I lost one on my DH a few days earlier, and I guess I'm not the only one.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
July 16 2012 19:07 GMT
#433
On July 13 2012 07:40 Mastermyth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 03:27 Psyqo wrote:
I know the AH for HC is slower, but I was very surprised to see the utter lack of -level req items on the AH last night. My WD is now 41 so I was looking for weapons to buy sometime within the 40s and there were only about 5 items on the whole AH with -level req 10 or more. Quite surprising.. but I guess a lot of HC'ers are probably gobbling them up.


Haha yeah I'm looking for one as well. I lost one on my DH a few days earlier, and I guess I'm not the only one.

They're there at higher levels, but they're insanely expensive, just need to be lucky and snatch up an underpriced one.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
July 16 2012 22:42 GMT
#434
On July 17 2012 04:07 MoreFaSho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 07:40 Mastermyth wrote:
On July 12 2012 03:27 Psyqo wrote:
I know the AH for HC is slower, but I was very surprised to see the utter lack of -level req items on the AH last night. My WD is now 41 so I was looking for weapons to buy sometime within the 40s and there were only about 5 items on the whole AH with -level req 10 or more. Quite surprising.. but I guess a lot of HC'ers are probably gobbling them up.


Haha yeah I'm looking for one as well. I lost one on my DH a few days earlier, and I guess I'm not the only one.

They're there at higher levels, but they're insanely expensive, just need to be lucky and snatch up an underpriced one.


Got a 1-hander today with 519 dps for 500k with lvl 51 req. Not exactly cheap but it was the best value for my gold.
DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
July 16 2012 23:29 GMT
#435
On July 12 2012 03:27 Psyqo wrote:
I know the AH for HC is slower, but I was very surprised to see the utter lack of -level req items on the AH last night. My WD is now 41 so I was looking for weapons to buy sometime within the 40s and there were only about 5 items on the whole AH with -level req 10 or more. Quite surprising.. but I guess a lot of HC'ers are probably gobbling them up.


I can relate, I've been searching them on and off for a while, but I think the supply is just very thin rather than lots of people buying them up. There just aren't a ton that get listed, and the ones that do are usually at unreasonable prices, so I've never actually bought one. Everyone wants a -req weapon for their backup character, so if they find one they're more likely to keep it for themselves than sell it the AH.

Anyway, I realized I would rather spend 30-50k on a top DPS weapon (for my level) that gets me through the content just fine, than 1mil+ for a reduced level req weapon. In the end, I got to inferno and managed to find a -15level requirement weapon myself, which I can use for future characters. It's a nice luxury to have but I would never pay the current going rates for one.


h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 17 2012 02:24 GMT
#436
For the price of one good -level requirement weapon you can get good lvl 50 equip in every slot but rings/amulet on 3 chars. While the damage you get is absurd for hell, it's just as easy with decent lvl 50 gear.

If I ever find one I'd try and sell it as overpriced as they are right now.
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
July 19 2012 18:30 GMT
#437
yay hardcore butcher down on my spin-to-win barb. now to stop my hands from shaking o.o
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
July 19 2012 18:34 GMT
#438
On July 20 2012 03:30 coopes wrote:
yay hardcore butcher down on my spin-to-win barb. now to stop my hands from shaking o.o


I dont think spin barb is viable on HC but maybe youll prove me wrong.
White-Ra fighting!
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
July 19 2012 18:38 GMT
#439
On July 20 2012 03:34 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:30 coopes wrote:
yay hardcore butcher down on my spin-to-win barb. now to stop my hands from shaking o.o


I dont think spin barb is viable on HC but maybe youll prove me wrong.


Well so far it allows me pull 2-3 packs in act 1 with ease and reall fast farming. I wont be touching act 2 until I get a better shield + 1h and more resist and loh

whether it works or not i refuse to play another style ;p

(lastwords)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 19 2012 18:47 GMT
#440
On July 20 2012 03:38 coopes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:34 m3rciless wrote:
On July 20 2012 03:30 coopes wrote:
yay hardcore butcher down on my spin-to-win barb. now to stop my hands from shaking o.o


I dont think spin barb is viable on HC but maybe youll prove me wrong.


Well so far it allows me pull 2-3 packs in act 1 with ease and reall fast farming. I wont be touching act 2 until I get a better shield + 1h and more resist and loh

whether it works or not i refuse to play another style ;p

(lastwords)

Fighting~!
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