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Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#401
When do you usually swap out your +Exp gear for more powerful stuff?
First time I play HC, with a monk. I take my time because I play only a few hours a week. I'm now at level 46, doing Kulle's archives at Nightmare. I have a ton of +Exp gear, I think a total of +200 exp per kill, +15% exp from a ruby. But now I feel kind of unsafe and I'm thinking about swapping out for moar +Dex +Vit.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 06 2012 16:22 GMT
#402
On July 07 2012 00:58 Ektor Baboden wrote:
When do you usually swap out your +Exp gear for more powerful stuff?
First time I play HC, with a monk. I take my time because I play only a few hours a week. I'm now at level 46, doing Kulle's archives at Nightmare. I have a ton of +Exp gear, I think a total of +200 exp per kill, +15% exp from a ruby. But now I feel kind of unsafe and I'm thinking about swapping out for moar +Dex +Vit.

That's when.

Honestly it comes down to what other stats you have and how comfortable you are clearing the content you're at. I'd keep the ruby helm as long as possible though.
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#403
I can certainly keep the ruby helm. But I think I need a gear swap. If I upgrade to a nice weapon, I could be ok. Does life steal work well in Hell? I currently have 2.2% life steal and some LoH but I'm thinking about switching fully to LoH in view of Hell difficulty.

Essentially, up to now I never had to use Serenity, but in the last two levels, I actually had to use it 2 or 3 times. I never had to use potions still, but I *really* don't want to die.

(By the way, I'm moving back to Singapore in a few weeks - how's lag from Singapore to US?)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 06 2012 16:43 GMT
#404
Wrong person to ask for that, I'm living in the U.S. atm. I assume passable since there are (or were) a fair number of Singaporean players.

LoH is definitely the better option than lifesteal. I had about 200~ on my monk until level 60, where I upgraded to 400 for the rest of Hell. You should also start building up elemental resistance to use with OWE.
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 06 2012 16:46 GMT
#405
Ok, thanks for the advice! I'll start building a set of Hell gear.
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
July 06 2012 19:34 GMT
#406
I love the flat +exp gear up until I start NM, then I feel like the only worthy one is the +% exp Ruby in the helm. I'm going through Act 1 now, and I have +exp on all my gear, but any upgrade I strive for is going to be for main stat + vit and I won't mind if I lose the +exp.
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 06 2012 23:49 GMT
#407
Well, I can tell you that I got my monk to level 45 very quick using flat +exp gear and a ruby. I started feeling a bit unsafe only after Maghda at Nightmare, but before that, no problem at all. Essentially I think I was always at least a couple of levels above the "standard" level for each area.

Now I swapped out my bracers and shield for some better gear that I had found (without +exp), and I bought a good, fast weapon with +LoH and life steal for less than 10K on the auction house, without +exp. I'm still at +150 flat exp +15% for the ruby, and I'm facerolling act II and III. Currently at the second quest at act III, level 47, I never drop below 3/4 health (and I never use Serenity or a potion).
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 05:12:48
July 07 2012 04:42 GMT
#408
Anyone give me a status on Act III? My hc barb is much better geared than my soft core barb... but my soft core barb struggles quite a bit with act III and I'm not sure about making the leap on hc. Been farming Belial for a bit, have 70 hours played since the last death. Stats follow:

43k hp
18k dps
980 LoH
800 RA, 970 phys
9.3k armor
24% melee reduction
8% ranged reduction

5-stack Belial is so boring I can do it one-handed... so really hoping someone can confirm this is enough for act III
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 07 2012 06:01 GMT
#409
On July 07 2012 04:34 Psyqo wrote:
I love the flat +exp gear up until I start NM, then I feel like the only worthy one is the +% exp Ruby in the helm. I'm going through Act 1 now, and I have +exp on all my gear, but any upgrade I strive for is going to be for main stat + vit and I won't mind if I lose the +exp.


The +xp gear can even be good in NM for some parts as long as you don't underdo your other stats too much. I'm having to relevel my wizard at the moment and I use the +xp gear on switch for areas with lots of monster density. with +150 xp and flawless square ruby I've been getting about 200,000 xp per run doing the 'light the beacon' quest in act 3 NM which only takes about 10 minutes and with pure power rune and invocation passive I can keep archon up pretty much the whole time so it's actually fun.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
July 07 2012 17:29 GMT
#410
Flat +exp gear is excellent, and you should definitely spend the 1-10k gold the items cost on the HC auction house. If you only play one class, then just get their stats. Otherwise, just get blues that are vitality with + exp (~5 for below level 10, ~10 for levels 10-20, ~15 for 20-30, etc.) A good weapon will give you plenty of damage, so stacking experience with some vitality on the rest should be pretty cheap and easy. I phase it out once I'm in hell, although my 56 WD still has flat +100 exp.

The real key to succes in D3 (HC particularly) is having a decent group of people to play with. Pubs tend to be pretty bad at the game, so if you're in HC, you want to find some people who won't get you killed by pulling half the mobs in the level at once.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Spek
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada37 Posts
July 07 2012 23:59 GMT
#411
Could someone knowledgable let me know what minimum requirements I need to defeat the Butcher in Hell on hardcore? Or could someone point me to a thread that explains minimum requirements for each boss fight? I'm trying to take him out as soon as possible, as it has to do with a huge bet with a friend. Thanks for you input.
If you don't play random, that makes you a racist.
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:18:48
July 08 2012 00:18 GMT
#412
On July 08 2012 08:59 Spek wrote:
Could someone knowledgable let me know what minimum requirements I need to defeat the Butcher in Hell on hardcore? Or could someone point me to a thread that explains minimum requirements for each boss fight? I'm trying to take him out as soon as possible, as it has to do with a huge bet with a friend. Thanks for you input.



Be lvl 50. That's it.

normal mode butcher can be killed by a naked level 1. There are no gear requirements till inferno, where there is a dps check due to the enrage mechanic.


Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you are good just go kill him. For each step down your skill is, the more gear you'll need to make up for it.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:30:22
July 08 2012 00:28 GMT
#413
On July 08 2012 08:59 Spek wrote:
Could someone knowledgable let me know what minimum requirements I need to defeat the Butcher in Hell on hardcore? Or could someone point me to a thread that explains minimum requirements for each boss fight? I'm trying to take him out as soon as possible, as it has to do with a huge bet with a friend. Thanks for you input.


On Hell mode there isn't really a thing like requirements yet. You obviously have the level requirements, but the rest is your own judgment. If you were getting hit by Butcher hooks/ground fire/charge regularly back on normal and NM, you may want to practice avoiding those abilities a bit more until you can comfortably avoid them completely. There's a pattern to his abilities, learn it and you'll never get hit. Same goes with the other bosses, Belial and Diablo especially. Their abilities just get less forgiving on higher difficulties, but if you can dodge them you're fine. Only on Inferno do you need to take a look at your dps in order to kill Butcher in under 3 minutes.
escobari
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland192 Posts
July 08 2012 07:29 GMT
#414
So I've thinking switching to shield+glass cannon for act3, since you gain resi/armor and only lose ~100 weapon dps(-200dps + 15%). Hard to tell is the block worth it? seem like it though.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 08 2012 08:41 GMT
#415
Thanks lag. I can't even see what I'm getting hit by.
=Þ
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
July 08 2012 17:13 GMT
#416
Just finished Act IV at Nightmare, when I have time I'll make an attempt at Hell.
Monk level 52, first time I play a monk or hardcore.

Fuck yeah.

But I think I need more resistances, my highest is fire at about 100, I'd like to push it up to 150 if possible.
Zilver
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland282 Posts
July 08 2012 20:49 GMT
#417
You'll be fine without resists until late act 3 in hell, just stack dat dex and vit.
1a2a3a iWin
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
July 09 2012 12:42 GMT
#418
Lost my 38 Wiz in NM Act 2 sewers Saturday morning. Fire Chains + Waller Insect pack, mixed in with some lizards that do the lightning dance.

Immediately created a WD and am up to level 32, starting NM. Saving all that +exp gear and a socketed helm helped speed it up.
DerSchober
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria66 Posts
July 09 2012 17:08 GMT
#419
On July 09 2012 02:13 Ektor Baboden wrote:
Just finished Act IV at Nightmare, when I have time I'll make an attempt at Hell.
Monk level 52, first time I play a monk or hardcore.

Fuck yeah.

But I think I need more resistances, my highest is fire at about 100, I'd like to push it up to 150 if possible.


i (monk) finished hell without any res at all, was playing very slowly tho and had like 40k hp
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
July 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#420
Would it be safe to venture into A2 inferno as a barb with the following:

50k health
12k dps
500 AR (600 PR)
9.5k armor
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