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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
June 12 2012 14:18 GMT
#1481
I'm going to completely revamp my demon hunter after the sharpshooter NT fix, and in anticipation of 1.03.

Right now I have 35k hp 45k DPS w/o SS, 250 AR. 1500 dex and 250% crit damage 15% crit chance with a 1.1kdps crossbow (no stats). I'm thinking my first step is to change my weapon type to a bow for 15% damage increase. In lieu of of crit damage I'll prioritize dex/vit/AR on most gear, while adding IAS for the items that have it. I have a 15-20 mil budget so I guess I won't be able to afford good andariel's/lacuni. I really dislike being a glass cannon and dying in 1 shot because I'm nto a very good player, so my ultimate goal is high DPS without sharpshooter with nice survivability, forgoing crit chance/damage.

Before I start on this though, I'd like to hear you guys' thoughts. If you guys were in my situation (15-20 mil budget, same stats), what gear/stats would you prioritize?
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 14:26:59
June 12 2012 14:26 GMT
#1482
The biggest upgrades in my opinion( without seeing your gear ) are lacuni prowlers or maybe a good neck that ideally has high critdmg(50+). If you're looking to build tank just search for high dex/vit/allresist on gear, unfortunately it can be really pricy as you're starting to compete with monks tank gear

Btw: you can get a decent 50+ dex lacuni for around 3-5 mil and it will give you a huge DPS boost if you dont have it, and also give u movement speed
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
June 12 2012 14:28 GMT
#1483
On June 12 2012 13:12 dottycakes wrote:
The better gear you have, the worse Sharpshooter becomes. It's the worst DPS increaser out of the 3 popular passives, the other two being Steady Aim and Archery. The main purpose of the passive was to abuse the 1 second window of guaranteed crits with Nethers, but they already nerfed it so the 1 second window starts after the first crit proc.

Tactical Advantage is VERY useful for certain affix combinations. Imagine getting walled in while running away with a pack of mobs waiting on the open end and you have to Smoke Screen early to avoid Frozen/Jailer/Mortar.

Also, the idea of must have passives is silly.
Here is a stunlock tank DH build that uses non of the currently popular glass cannon passives:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#bZgVhl!Zbf!YaYcYc


You clearly have no idea how sharpshooter works. That build you posted is not an inferno build, or anything that would work past act 1. The stun is nice in theory, but the dps in that build is ass. There was a similar theorycraft build posted on the d3 forums on bnet that involved bola stuns + impale + cluster arrow, with similar looking passives. It blew. The champ mobs in inferno have reduced stun durations, meaning fighting against mobs that are fast (read tongues) you do not have any time to move/reposition, and should your stun ever stop working for a second you die. Even if it does work, it actually has less effectiveness and safety due to the longer duration of your fights.

What happens with sharpshooter, which works beautifully with NT and caltrops, is that for 1 second you can frontload damage and kill mobs w/o having to fight a second time. Put down a series immobilize trap when you meet your elite mob, usually 3 in vertical progression and aggro them. Move back so that when they meet/stop at the first one, you are at the edge of the last trap you set, allowing you to fire at will. The effectiveness of this is dependent on your attack speed. For example, in that 1 second window of dmg, I can include all the hit from about 3-4 NTs and 3-4 primary attacks, be it evasive fire or hungering. At 100k+ dps w/o SS, it usually kills 2/3 of the elite mobs that has standard or low health, allowing me to switch to MF gear to farm the last one; it puts a huge dent any of the high HP mobs and will kill any minion in 1 go.

So the question is, whether you would like to have that kind of advantage at the beginning of the fight versus the ability to move 60% faster or get 1 more SS/Gloom. The problem is the latter passives can be replaced by good positioning, caltrops, and effective kiting. The spike damage you get from SS is not found anywhere else, which makes it more "must have" than any other passive. Personally, I'd rather just kill a champ phasebeast in one go at the edge of my screen than stun/kite him for whatever duration.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 12 2012 16:42 GMT
#1484
On June 12 2012 23:18 Perguvious wrote:
I'm going to completely revamp my demon hunter after the sharpshooter NT fix, and in anticipation of 1.03.


Which fix is this? I tried googling but couldn't find anything.
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i99
Profile Joined February 2012
United States362 Posts
June 12 2012 16:48 GMT
#1485
On June 12 2012 22:15 padfoota wrote:
Fellow demon hunters!!! How much damage is required to do whimsyshire? Im hearing 50000+ at least as boss will just go into rage mode



if you can hit for 50k at a decent rate, I think you can finish whimyshire. Sometimes you are going to have just kill up on elites tho
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 12 2012 18:10 GMT
#1486
On June 12 2012 22:15 padfoota wrote:
Fellow demon hunters!!! How much damage is required to do whimsyshire? Im hearing 50000+ at least as boss will just go into rage mode


Whimsyshire is pretty slow and I have 70k with ss. Never had a mob enrage, but taking so long to kill elites makes gold farming more effective.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ravEzi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel44 Posts
June 12 2012 20:42 GMT
#1487
Just got lvl 60 with my DH, I got 1mill what should I buy?
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coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
June 12 2012 20:44 GMT
#1488
a pretty good weapon for around 2-300k or more depending on what you wanna pay. 1k + blue xbow or bow
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 20:49:34
June 12 2012 20:48 GMT
#1489
On June 13 2012 05:42 ravEzi wrote:
Just got lvl 60 with my DH, I got 1mill what should I buy?


A weapon. Easily the most important part of any build/item. Try to get 1k+ dps with +dex. But the EU AH is pretty fucked up by inflation so you'll have to sit for a few hours before finding a good occasion.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 21:02:28
June 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#1490
On June 13 2012 05:48 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 05:42 ravEzi wrote:
Just got lvl 60 with my DH, I got 1mill what should I buy?


A weapon. Easily the most important part of any build/item. Try to get 1k+ dps with +dex. But the EU AH is pretty fucked up by inflation so you'll have to sit for a few hours before finding a good occasion.

A weapon, with 1k ish dps with a socket, dex is nice, not important, get the socket first. Better yet get a 2h crossbow, 1k+ dps with socket and +dex.

Also a quiver with +10 max Disc can't hurt at all.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 12 2012 21:23 GMT
#1491
It might be better to get a pure damage bow or xbow if going the AH route. The price premium for sockets and other useful attributes in the AH is usually higher than the benefits they give.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
June 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#1492
Why is EU AH so fucked up? 1k bow without anything on it for 3mil? hohoho.....
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 12 2012 22:46 GMT
#1493
On June 13 2012 06:01 Blasterion wrote:
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On June 13 2012 05:48 Latham wrote:
On June 13 2012 05:42 ravEzi wrote:
Just got lvl 60 with my DH, I got 1mill what should I buy?


A weapon. Easily the most important part of any build/item. Try to get 1k+ dps with +dex. But the EU AH is pretty fucked up by inflation so you'll have to sit for a few hours before finding a good occasion.

A weapon, with 1k ish dps with a socket, dex is nice, not important, get the socket first. Better yet get a 2h crossbow, 1k+ dps with socket and +dex.

Also a quiver with +10 max Disc can't hurt at all.


I'd just try to find a solid dps for your first weapon. Crit isn't as worthwhile until you get it on multiple items (which you can't afford right now). With a bit of luck and hunting the auction house you should be able to find a +10 disc quiver and chest for relatively cheap which will make glass cannoning that much easier.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 13 2012 00:02 GMT
#1494
Wanna ask is a Lacunis really worth it even though the stats are crap?

How much DEX should I look to get on a Lacunis to make up for the 150 I'd be giving up on my current Bracer?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 13 2012 01:03 GMT
#1495
Strongarms can be better.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 13 2012 01:06 GMT
#1496
not sure i gonna invest $$ on attack speed due to the new patch 1.0.3,help me decide pls
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 13 2012 01:15 GMT
#1497
On June 13 2012 10:06 justiceknight wrote:
not sure i gonna invest $$ on attack speed due to the new patch 1.0.3,help me decide pls

Imo it's best to take that nerf as the same that hit Blue Flame Hellions. Attack Speed is still pretty damn good and boosts your damage directly via more hits and indirectly via crit procs.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 13 2012 01:19 GMT
#1498
On June 13 2012 10:06 justiceknight wrote:
not sure i gonna invest $$ on attack speed due to the new patch 1.0.3,help me decide pls

you should wait until they nerf ias and buff legendaries in the next large patch.

Also just found this from an underbridge elite! I'm so pumped!
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
June 13 2012 04:22 GMT
#1499
On June 12 2012 22:15 padfoota wrote:
Fellow demon hunters!!! How much damage is required to do whimsyshire? Im hearing 50000+ at least as boss will just go into rage mode


I have zero problem with 70k dps (with ss on). If you have less then 50k you should farm some act1, my route was cave of the moon clan, watchtower, warden, butcher -> really good money. Get a 1.1k xbow then rape cuddle bears
fR.INDI
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany50 Posts
June 13 2012 08:04 GMT
#1500
Hey there mY money atm is only enough for a glasscan build..... How many critdamage and critrate should i aim for??
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