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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#1461
What Passives are you guys using?
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 00:21:39
June 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#1462
ss and archery are must have.

For the 3rd slot I use steady aim, but I see a lot of dhs running Night Stalker or Tactical Advantage.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 12 2012 00:43 GMT
#1463
On June 12 2012 08:27 Terranasaur wrote:
What Passives are you guys using?

I use Steady Aim Archer and Sharp
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#1464
im a demon hunter having 93k dps without sharpshooter. been thinkin if gearing with more vit/ar while minimizing dps loss. probably gonna very expensive but the repair cost and long term viability of a glass cannon worries me. for those of you who have vit/ar , what are your hp/resist to survive 1-2 solid hits at least?
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 02:08:12
June 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#1465
Tactical Advantage and Archery are must haves.

Sharpshooter or Steady Aim depends on how good your gear is. If your gear is good enough to have at least 40% crit chance, then Steady Aim hands down, otherwise, don't bother with crit chance gear at all, replace them with crit dmg% gear and go Sharpshooter.

Not sure how reliable Night Stalker would be. The mobility that tactical advantage gives is too good to give up imo, especially before bosses while you're building up Valor and if you don't run Vault.

On June 11 2012 15:05 Medrea wrote:
Sharpshooter is good even if you have a lot of crit chance. Being able to start an engagement with 1 second worth of over damage always sets you in good momentum. Even if the talent turned itself off for anything sustained, that 1 second will always have value.

I look forward to getting two high powered 1 handed crossbows with sockets. I might have to wait until the legendary buff patch since dead man's legacy is a VERY good quiver.

False.

After a certain % crit chance Sharpshooter won't proc pass 2-3 seconds which is a waste of a passive talent. 1 guaranteed critical shot at the start of the battle is nothing compared to Steady Aim's 20% boost.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
June 12 2012 03:28 GMT
#1466
steady aim and archery are a must imho. third slot either for sharpshooter or nightstalker. tactical advantage only if you have some bossfight ahead of you that you only want to do once for the quest, not for farming purposes. in this case, it might be worth it to switch to vault + tactical advantage. but for ordinary mf runs, tactical advantage is a total waste imho. steady aim + archery + sharpshooter is the way to go in most circumstances.


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matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
June 12 2012 03:37 GMT
#1467
On June 12 2012 11:01 S_SienZ wrote:
Tactical Advantage and Archery are must haves.

Sharpshooter or Steady Aim depends on how good your gear is. If your gear is good enough to have at least 40% crit chance, then Steady Aim hands down, otherwise, don't bother with crit chance gear at all, replace them with crit dmg% gear and go Sharpshooter.

Not sure how reliable Night Stalker would be. The mobility that tactical advantage gives is too good to give up imo, especially before bosses while you're building up Valor and if you don't run Vault.

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On June 11 2012 15:05 Medrea wrote:
Sharpshooter is good even if you have a lot of crit chance. Being able to start an engagement with 1 second worth of over damage always sets you in good momentum. Even if the talent turned itself off for anything sustained, that 1 second will always have value.

I look forward to getting two high powered 1 handed crossbows with sockets. I might have to wait until the legendary buff patch since dead man's legacy is a VERY good quiver.

False.

After a certain % crit chance Sharpshooter won't proc pass 2-3 seconds which is a waste of a passive talent. 1 guaranteed critical shot at the start of the battle is nothing compared to Steady Aim's 20% boost.


So less than 40% crit chance, use sharpshooter, and if greater than 40%, use archery?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 03:58:10
June 12 2012 03:45 GMT
#1468
On June 12 2012 11:01 S_SienZ wrote:
Tactical Advantage and Archery are must haves.

Sharpshooter or Steady Aim depends on how good your gear is. If your gear is good enough to have at least 40% crit chance, then Steady Aim hands down, otherwise, don't bother with crit chance gear at all, replace them with crit dmg% gear and go Sharpshooter.

Not sure how reliable Night Stalker would be. The mobility that tactical advantage gives is too good to give up imo, especially before bosses while you're building up Valor and if you don't run Vault.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:05 Medrea wrote:
Sharpshooter is good even if you have a lot of crit chance. Being able to start an engagement with 1 second worth of over damage always sets you in good momentum. Even if the talent turned itself off for anything sustained, that 1 second will always have value.

I look forward to getting two high powered 1 handed crossbows with sockets. I might have to wait until the legendary buff patch since dead man's legacy is a VERY good quiver.

False.

After a certain % crit chance Sharpshooter won't proc pass 2-3 seconds which is a waste of a passive talent. 1 guaranteed critical shot at the start of the battle is nothing compared to Steady Aim's 20% boost.


You didn't read everything I wrote.

Also:

1 guaranteed critical shot at the start of the battle


Makes me think you don't know how sharpshooter works. Or how elemental arrow works. Or how either of them works.

You can also do better than tactical advantage. You should always have Steady Aim, Sharpshooter, and always Archery. What is different is Sharpshooter versus Nightstalker, Tactical Advantage honestly isnt part of the menu -.-

I would take cull the weak before Tact Advant
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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
June 12 2012 04:12 GMT
#1469
The better gear you have, the worse Sharpshooter becomes. It's the worst DPS increaser out of the 3 popular passives, the other two being Steady Aim and Archery. The main purpose of the passive was to abuse the 1 second window of guaranteed crits with Nethers, but they already nerfed it so the 1 second window starts after the first crit proc.

Tactical Advantage is VERY useful for certain affix combinations. Imagine getting walled in while running away with a pack of mobs waiting on the open end and you have to Smoke Screen early to avoid Frozen/Jailer/Mortar.

Also, the idea of must have passives is silly.
Here is a stunlock tank DH build that uses non of the currently popular glass cannon passives:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#bZgVhl!Zbf!YaYcYc
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 04:23:42
June 12 2012 04:19 GMT
#1470
Thats why you trade it out for Nightstalker later on. I said this a few times -.-
40 percent sounds like an OK number. Bit high though.

You also dont need anyones permission to use bad builds >.>
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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
June 12 2012 04:29 GMT
#1471
On June 12 2012 13:19 Medrea wrote:
Thats why you trade it out for Nightstalker later on. I said this a few times -.-
40 percent sounds like an OK number. Bit high though.

You also dont need anyones permission to use bad builds >.>


Sharpshooter is the worst DPS increaser out of the 3 even with less than the default 5% crit chance.

And your idea of must have passives all just increase damage in a state of the game where people don't have access to high end gear. >_> -_- o_o <_< :o :3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 12 2012 04:40 GMT
#1472
Well I was able to jump start my DH with just 2 million and I got a full suite of glass cannon over rape gear. But I guess if you are a really fresh DH with only 500k or something with a 400 DPS bow sharpshooter wouldnt look so great.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
June 12 2012 04:48 GMT
#1473
People's thoughts on this build?

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/tier-list-update-the-endgame-demon-hunter-build

It's apparently the best build for DH.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 12 2012 04:54 GMT
#1474
Most of it is conventional. Why tactical advantage over nightstalker, I have no idea. Probably related to the fact that the OP's experience comes from hardcore, where things are different. With enough crit Nightstalker is crazy imba.
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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
June 12 2012 05:02 GMT
#1475
On June 12 2012 13:40 Medrea wrote:
Well I was able to jump start my DH with just 2 million and I got a full suite of glass cannon over rape gear. But I guess if you are a really fresh DH with only 500k or something with a 400 DPS bow sharpshooter wouldnt look so great.


What does the DPS of your weapon have to do with anything? It doesn't matter what your DPS is, you will deal more damage having Steady Aim or Archery over Sharpshooter. It's a terrible passive for boosting damage and having better gear that have crit chance will only make it worse. The only way to make Sharpshooter worthwhile is to have gear with loaded +crit damage and a build that'll have you shoot for a second, run around doing nothing, and shoot for another second.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 12 2012 05:04 GMT
#1476
Most DH gear is loaded with damage multiplier. 250 percent is common, thats about what I have (248)
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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
June 12 2012 05:06 GMT
#1477
The second part of the sentence sort of makes a big difference.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 12 2012 05:09 GMT
#1478
I didnt quite understand the "shoot for a second" thing you were getting at.

I use Nightstalker in groups of 3 and 4 over sharpshooter.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 12 2012 07:18 GMT
#1479
How often does a crit restore discipline? I was kind of turned off Night Stalker because it said a "chance" to restore discipline, so I was thinking "well that's crap, I need to crit AND proc it for a measly 1 discipline". But by the sounds of it, the chance is actually pretty high?
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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
June 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#1480
Fellow demon hunters!!! How much damage is required to do whimsyshire? Im hearing 50000+ at least as boss will just go into rage mode
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