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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
October 03 2012 19:03 GMT
#3281
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NyRe-2383/hero/7176418

Any ideas what to upgrade next? I'm sitting at 30 mil in the bank and it doesn't feel I can buy anything that will give me more than a hardly noticeable increase in DPS (pre-SS it's 70k). Note that I want to preserve my EHP and MF. I don't like the amulet but without it I have too low vitality and almost 40 less MF which is just too much to drop.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#3282
On October 04 2012 04:03 BluzMan wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NyRe-2383/hero/7176418

Any ideas what to upgrade next? I'm sitting at 30 mil in the bank and it doesn't feel I can buy anything that will give me more than a hardly noticeable increase in DPS (pre-SS it's 70k). Note that I want to preserve my EHP and MF. I don't like the amulet but without it I have too low vitality and almost 40 less MF which is just too much to drop.



I think you would notice a huge increase of survival if you swapped some EHP for extra disc. Your chest and quiver are not good enough to justify not holding extra discipline.

Also, if you're going to us SS, you should prioritize Crit Damage over Crit Chance...
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
October 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#3283
I've actually swapped to this quiver from another one I had when I dropped it. The former one had 10 disc, but didn't have crit. I was very reluctant at first but then found out that starting from some amount of DPS, I don't really need it. 33% more discipline would have been good if it increased the regen by the same amount, without regen though, max disc is somewhat overrated. It won't save you from occasional sudden deaths (my goal for EHP is to reliably tank one hit from elite Swift Skull Cleaver/Demonic Tremor/Phase Beast) and those slow down runs alot. Also I do intend to scrap SS once I manage to get over 40% CC and 1.0.5 comes out with buffed Perfectionist.

As for the chest, that one was slightly below 1 mil. A similar one with max disc was at least 10x as expensive at the moment when I bought it. I don't want to flush all my money into a stat that does nothing reliable, especially since I've had 40 disc for like an eternity until recently when I got myself an upgrade.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#3284
On October 04 2012 06:00 BluzMan wrote:
I've actually swapped to this quiver from another one I had when I dropped it. The former one had 10 disc, but didn't have crit. I was very reluctant at first but then found out that starting from some amount of DPS, I don't really need it. 33% more discipline would have been good if it increased the regen by the same amount, without regen though, max disc is somewhat overrated. It won't save you from occasional sudden deaths (my goal for EHP is to reliably tank one hit from elite Swift Skull Cleaver/Demonic Tremor/Phase Beast) and those slow down runs alot. Also I do intend to scrap SS once I manage to get over 40% CC and 1.0.5 comes out with buffed Perfectionist.

As for the chest, that one was slightly below 1 mil. A similar one with max disc was at least 10x as expensive at the moment when I bought it. I don't want to flush all my money into a stat that does nothing reliable, especially since I've had 40 disc for like an eternity until recently when I got myself an upgrade.


40 isn't enough to notice a difference. You need at least 42 so you can pop an extra SS. The difference is huge.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 03 2012 21:23 GMT
#3285
On October 04 2012 06:06 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 06:00 BluzMan wrote:
I've actually swapped to this quiver from another one I had when I dropped it. The former one had 10 disc, but didn't have crit. I was very reluctant at first but then found out that starting from some amount of DPS, I don't really need it. 33% more discipline would have been good if it increased the regen by the same amount, without regen though, max disc is somewhat overrated. It won't save you from occasional sudden deaths (my goal for EHP is to reliably tank one hit from elite Swift Skull Cleaver/Demonic Tremor/Phase Beast) and those slow down runs alot. Also I do intend to scrap SS once I manage to get over 40% CC and 1.0.5 comes out with buffed Perfectionist.

As for the chest, that one was slightly below 1 mil. A similar one with max disc was at least 10x as expensive at the moment when I bought it. I don't want to flush all my money into a stat that does nothing reliable, especially since I've had 40 disc for like an eternity until recently when I got myself an upgrade.


40 isn't enough to notice a difference. You need at least 42 so you can pop an extra SS. The difference is huge.

Uh...I don't think you're factoring in Disc regen. With a cooldown of 2 seconds, you only need 38 Disc for 3 straight SSs.

48 Disc will give you 4 straight SSs.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 03 2012 21:32 GMT
#3286
On October 04 2012 06:23 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 06:06 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 04 2012 06:00 BluzMan wrote:
I've actually swapped to this quiver from another one I had when I dropped it. The former one had 10 disc, but didn't have crit. I was very reluctant at first but then found out that starting from some amount of DPS, I don't really need it. 33% more discipline would have been good if it increased the regen by the same amount, without regen though, max disc is somewhat overrated. It won't save you from occasional sudden deaths (my goal for EHP is to reliably tank one hit from elite Swift Skull Cleaver/Demonic Tremor/Phase Beast) and those slow down runs alot. Also I do intend to scrap SS once I manage to get over 40% CC and 1.0.5 comes out with buffed Perfectionist.

As for the chest, that one was slightly below 1 mil. A similar one with max disc was at least 10x as expensive at the moment when I bought it. I don't want to flush all my money into a stat that does nothing reliable, especially since I've had 40 disc for like an eternity until recently when I got myself an upgrade.


40 isn't enough to notice a difference. You need at least 42 so you can pop an extra SS. The difference is huge.

Uh...I don't think you're factoring in Disc regen. With a cooldown of 2 seconds, you only need 38 Disc for 3 straight SSs.

48 Disc will give you 4 straight SSs.



Ya. That sounds about right. Disc is awesome.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 03 2012 22:30 GMT
#3287
I have a question: What is everyone's favourite hatred generator, and hatred spender (if you use 2 or more hatred spenders such as nuke spells, post those too), and why?

My personal favourite is Evasive Fire: Covering Fire and Multishot: Fire At Will. I sometimes use CA: LfB or Impale: GW as a single-target nuke, but usually the MS damage is enough.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#3288
Disc is pretty overrated imo... unless you have legacy nats and just vault to kill stuff, max disc doesnt do a ton for you. I think you speed up more w/ more stats, especially on cloak. it's cheap to get a good quiver with disc, but a good cloak with disc is off the wall expensive.

I use hungering: spray of teeth and multishot; fire at will. When MP comes out I'll use cluster arrow instead of multishot at higher MP levels.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 23:12:42
October 03 2012 23:03 GMT
#3289
On October 04 2012 04:03 BluzMan wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NyRe-2383/hero/7176418

Any ideas what to upgrade next? I'm sitting at 30 mil in the bank and it doesn't feel I can buy anything that will give me more than a hardly noticeable increase in DPS (pre-SS it's 70k). Note that I want to preserve my EHP and MF. I don't like the amulet but without it I have too low vitality and almost 40 less MF which is just too much to drop.

There's definitely something seriously wrong with what you're looking at, then... I easily got to 100k DPS without SS for under 30 mil per piece, and I had MF on every piece as well. Without MF you could easily make quite a few upgrades, but if you want to keep MF it might be tougher, but still - I got my gloves with 150 dex 7 ias 8.5 cc 25 cd and 15 MF for 22 mil, and an amulet with 170 dex 6 cc 55 cd 22 mf @ 20 mil, and those were both bought a couple weeks ago.

My character, for reference:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Pokebunny-1967/hero/18746826

Every piece is worth under 30 mil except the bow (I found it), the boots (just bought it to replace MF boots, but my MF boots were ~5mil), and possibly the depth diggers (got a good deal on them at 32mil).

The biggest difference I see between my char (before I started buying natalya) and yours is definitely the gloves, though. Your jewelry could also be improved, but I'd wait til patch on that at least.

edit: Ah, guess you're EU, but it doesn't seem like our chars are too different regardless - I'm not sure how much it would cost, but your gloves could definitely use an upgrade.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 08:51:21
October 05 2012 08:47 GMT
#3290
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/10606148

what should I upgrade next? feels like I cant find find much of an upgrade for around 100m, unless I get rid of my nat set. 2x socket manticore at around 100m only improves my dps by around 10k, stuff like witching hour/inna pants improves it by even less, and I lose a big chunk of EHP.
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 08:55:50
October 05 2012 08:55 GMT
#3291
pants maybe gloves too. my pants were like 12m, gloves like 25m

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MarshallD-1209/hero/1084764

you can compare gears using d3up.com and the site imports your chars from bnet too. so pretty fast.
ktang
Profile Joined September 2010
United States196 Posts
October 06 2012 07:57 GMT
#3292
I give a thumbs up for pokebunny's post! I would recommend the same. BUT keep in mind he's really good at micro-ing his demon hunter! You can throw all blue gear on pokebunny and he will still manage to micro his demon hunter and never die!

<3 pokebunny
ツ
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 14:31:44
October 06 2012 14:31 GMT
#3293
pokebunny has been slain by a demonic mine!

<3
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 06 2012 17:14 GMT
#3294
I die a lot because I'm not careful tbh @_@
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 06 2012 17:16 GMT
#3295
Lol. You don't know what die a lot means bro.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Furlisht
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium177 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 16:17:40
October 07 2012 16:17 GMT
#3296
Hello guys

I'm currently asking myself what to look to upgrade next ( http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Furlisht-2840/hero/315556 ). Given my current weapon, would a 1 socketed 950dps manticore (about 5millions) be a good upgrade or not? They seem so low on dps i really can't tell.

Thx
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#3297
On October 08 2012 01:17 Furlisht wrote:
Hello guys

I'm currently asking myself what to look to upgrade next ( http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Furlisht-2840/hero/315556 ). Given my current weapon, would a 1 socketed 950dps manticore (about 5millions) be a good upgrade or not? They seem so low on dps i really can't tell.

Thx


You can use a dps calculator to figure out if that would be a dps increase, but I would highly doubt it seeing as your current crossbow is fairly strong. I wouldn't go for a manticore until they drop in price. It is crazy expensive to get one that's better than a yellow. For you, I would recommend getting a non-MF set. For ring farming and future pvp, a non-MF set seems more intuitive.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 07 2012 16:46 GMT
#3298
On October 07 2012 02:16 Terranasaur wrote:
Lol. You don't know what die a lot means bro.


Word. LOL

I recently went down from 50disc to 40disc and once your dps is high enough to be 1 or 2 shotting most Act3 non-elites, then I think the 50disc is not as necessary (I loved maxed disc as I was working up from 70kdps to 100kdps however).

I'm predicting an increase in value of disc once Monster Power is out.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 07 2012 17:07 GMT
#3299
With the new 5s gloom, having 50 max disc, using the -10% disc passive, and getting the +10 disc rune for prep, you'll almost be able to keep gloom up perpetually. However if you have legacy nats, then you'll be in a constant state of gloom.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#3300
On October 08 2012 01:17 Furlisht wrote:
Hello guys

I'm currently asking myself what to look to upgrade next ( http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Furlisht-2840/hero/315556 ). Given my current weapon, would a 1 socketed 950dps manticore (about 5millions) be a good upgrade or not? They seem so low on dps i really can't tell.

Thx

Your shoulders, pants, chest are pretty bad... is the MF really that essential to you? If you're insistent on going MF set (which I did, and regret): here's my profile, I think I have a pretty balanced set of gear which is mostly reasonably priced. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Pokebunny-1967/hero/18746826
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
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