• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:17
CET 12:17
KST 20:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2042 users

D3 Bnet is going the same way as SC2 - Page 5

Forum Index > Diablo 3
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 15 16 17 Next All
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 14:48:58
February 07 2012 14:48 GMT
#81
So... a real cash AH and no chat channel to actually trade outside of it?

Brilliant Blizzard, brilliant...

Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:38:09
February 07 2012 15:37 GMT
#82
Yes, Diablo 3 is going to end up being mediocre. Such seems to be the way of Blizzard these days. And it's not like they don't put effort into their games, they are just really stubborn about inputting basic things for some god awful reason.

Diablo 3 will also suffer from the fact that they are consistently removing features or promising features and never putting them in (such as the hardcore hall of the dead which is now "wishlist" aka never going to happen).

I seriously don't understand Blizzard. They already have the model for success... they fucking made it. Adding those features from the past and a few new features would take them a couple of weeks at most... but NOPE, need fucking facebook integration.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
February 07 2012 16:07 GMT
#83
--- Nuked ---
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
February 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#84
Again we will feel alone together with millions
Brood War is forever
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
February 07 2012 16:48 GMT
#85
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
February 07 2012 16:51 GMT
#86
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
February 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#87
Not sure why anyone would be surprised about this, we all knew it was being built into the existing shitty bnet 0.2.

But lets look on the bright side, Blizzard has a lot of things on their wishlist :/
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
February 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#88
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
February 07 2012 17:44 GMT
#89
On February 07 2012 06:05 KenNage wrote:
i bought sc2 and regreted it, seems like this one will go to the same path so im not making the same mistake again (:


Says the person with over 500 posts on an sc2-related forum.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 17:47:56
February 07 2012 17:45 GMT
#90
On February 08 2012 02:14 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.


SC2 is losing more and more players. I don't know why that is but I can only speak for myself when I say that I stopped logging in because of bnet without going through the complete list of things I don't like with it.

I expected SC2 to be like WoW, that is the population increasing over time not declining a year after release.

What made WoW was the social aspect of the game. I played so many years and thinking of what I actually did in the game it was like playing half the time and chatting the other half. The social aspects of the game were great. I got to knew a lot of people thanks to believe or not global chat/trade channels.

What will make players keep playing Diablo 3 and increasing its playerbase won't be a new set of weapons or new areas. It will be the social aspect of the game. If the game or environment will make you feel lonely like bnet with SC2 does I'm afraid D3 will not have an increasing playerbase over time. I'd say if the playerbase declines just after a year the game is quite fail.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
February 07 2012 17:49 GMT
#91
Well thats one more game i wont be buying.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kmonx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States102 Posts
February 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#92
Blizzard changing the chat system doesn't bother me that much since there are ways to communicate(forums, skype, etc.) with people.
"Megapigs can fly, with Void Rays in the sky." - Day[9]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 07 2012 18:01 GMT
#93
On February 08 2012 02:53 Kmonx wrote:
Blizzard changing the chat system doesn't bother me that much since there are ways to communicate(forums, skype, etc.) with people.

Why have a friends list when you can just use facebook?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
February 07 2012 18:07 GMT
#94
Well this seems pretty relevant for the sc2 folks also. I guess we shouldn't expect any improvements in HotS.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:12:05
February 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#95
On February 08 2012 02:45 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:14 kuresuti wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.


SC2 is losing more and more players. I don't know why that is but I can only speak for myself when I say that I stopped logging in because of bnet without going through the complete list of things I don't like with it.

I expected SC2 to be like WoW, that is the population increasing over time not declining a year after release.

What made WoW was the social aspect of the game. I played so many years and thinking of what I actually did in the game it was like playing half the time and chatting the other half. The social aspects of the game were great. I got to knew a lot of people thanks to believe or not global chat/trade channels.

What will make players keep playing Diablo 3 and increasing its playerbase won't be a new set of weapons or new areas. It will be the social aspect of the game. If the game or environment will make you feel lonely like bnet with SC2 does I'm afraid D3 will not have an increasing playerbase over time. I'd say if the playerbase declines just after a year the game is quite fail.


I think you are overestimating the importance of chat channels, they are important but they are not integral. Many single player games do fine without any social aspect at all. The single player portion of D3 will most likely do just as well. How do you define success anyway? SC2 is a success of giant proportions, but it is losing players, is it a failed game after all?

You do have a valid point in that the social aspect is important in a game focused on multiplayer, but I think the majority of players will either play alone or with previous friends. I might be wrong about this but didn't most people use d2jsp or similar sites to do their socializing in D2?

Also comparing SC2 to D3 is difficult, since D3 can be played without competing. SC2 is a very competitive game and if you are not willing to compete, there isn't much content for you to enjoy. Casual bronze league games might be what they are, but they are still competitions. In D3 there will be a lot of content for the solo and/or non-competitive player to explore.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't get me wrong, I want chat channels because they are convenient. It won't ruin the game if they aren't there though in my opinion.


EDIT: Missing word :O
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
February 07 2012 18:13 GMT
#96
Is there a petition around to sign if you aren't willing to buy the game without offline play?
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
IseeFish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States45 Posts
February 07 2012 18:27 GMT
#97
On February 07 2012 05:59 andrewlt wrote:
You have to understand, you guys are the minority. The research pretty much confirms what Blizzard is doing. Basically, the biggest demographic of multiplayer videogames, 14-25 year old males, is a complete turn off to every other demographic. It's a negative experience for everyone else. Almost every other year, I read a major study showing how the biggest stumbling block to the expansion of hardcore multiplayer games is its current player base.

WoW's player base is generally older than most games in the market nowadays, especially FPS and action games. And I still have most general chat channels turned off on most of my characters. SC2's community is even worse, just judging from in game chat.

I can definitely see more negatives than positives in allowing public chat channels. It's pretty odd that they don't have guild support, though, as many of my current and former WoW guildmates are likely to pick up this game.


That's interesting if it's true. Where do you find those studies?
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:51:39
February 07 2012 18:35 GMT
#98
i wont miss public channels.. wasnt that scamming/spamming only in diablo2 ?! i played up to 2005 and i cant think of anyone i met from public channels. guild support is a must though, but im confident they will bring this in in the future.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
February 07 2012 18:57 GMT
#99
On February 08 2012 02:44 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:05 KenNage wrote:
i bought sc2 and regreted it, seems like this one will go to the same path so im not making the same mistake again (:


Says the person with over 500 posts on an sc2-related forum.


This forum predates sc2.

I agree with him completely, the new bnet made me not enjoy sc2 at all, won't be buying any blizzard games that use bnet 0.2.
k0pf
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:58:13
February 07 2012 18:57 GMT
#100
like they brought the clan support for sc2 ?! its just so dumb .. i rly cant get it .. i mean why blizz .. why ..

I always feel like blizz thinks the worst thing possible is a feature that noone uses ... but they're kinda wrong with that :-/
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 4: Group D
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
Tasteless1126
IndyStarCraft 169
Rex114
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #123
Shameless vs YoungYakovLIVE!
Creator vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings78
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1126
IndyStarCraft 194
Rex 118
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 45585
Calm 14363
Horang2 2315
GuemChi 1843
Jaedong 963
BeSt 900
actioN 476
Last 179
Soma 175
Mini 174
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 157
Rush 116
Dewaltoss 101
Mind 97
ToSsGirL 83
Hm[arnc] 69
Backho 60
ZerO 55
JulyZerg 47
sorry 45
Barracks 35
HiyA 30
NaDa 29
IntoTheRainbow 27
GoRush 21
ivOry 15
SilentControl 10
Sea.KH 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
Gorgc3152
XaKoH 573
XcaliburYe89
League of Legends
JimRising 448
Counter-Strike
zeus370
byalli189
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor279
MindelVK10
Other Games
B2W.Neo1128
Fuzer 159
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream19784
Other Games
gamesdonequick818
ComeBackTV 292
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 61
• LUISG 57
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1594
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
43m
Patches Events
5h 43m
BSL
8h 43m
GSL
20h 43m
Wardi Open
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.