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Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 14:48:58
February 07 2012 14:48 GMT
#81
So... a real cash AH and no chat channel to actually trade outside of it?

Brilliant Blizzard, brilliant...

Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:38:09
February 07 2012 15:37 GMT
#82
Yes, Diablo 3 is going to end up being mediocre. Such seems to be the way of Blizzard these days. And it's not like they don't put effort into their games, they are just really stubborn about inputting basic things for some god awful reason.

Diablo 3 will also suffer from the fact that they are consistently removing features or promising features and never putting them in (such as the hardcore hall of the dead which is now "wishlist" aka never going to happen).

I seriously don't understand Blizzard. They already have the model for success... they fucking made it. Adding those features from the past and a few new features would take them a couple of weeks at most... but NOPE, need fucking facebook integration.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
February 07 2012 16:07 GMT
#83
--- Nuked ---
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
February 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#84
Again we will feel alone together with millions
Brood War is forever
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
February 07 2012 16:48 GMT
#85
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
February 07 2012 16:51 GMT
#86
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
February 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#87
Not sure why anyone would be surprised about this, we all knew it was being built into the existing shitty bnet 0.2.

But lets look on the bright side, Blizzard has a lot of things on their wishlist :/
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
February 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#88
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
February 07 2012 17:44 GMT
#89
On February 07 2012 06:05 KenNage wrote:
i bought sc2 and regreted it, seems like this one will go to the same path so im not making the same mistake again (:


Says the person with over 500 posts on an sc2-related forum.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 17:47:56
February 07 2012 17:45 GMT
#90
On February 08 2012 02:14 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.


SC2 is losing more and more players. I don't know why that is but I can only speak for myself when I say that I stopped logging in because of bnet without going through the complete list of things I don't like with it.

I expected SC2 to be like WoW, that is the population increasing over time not declining a year after release.

What made WoW was the social aspect of the game. I played so many years and thinking of what I actually did in the game it was like playing half the time and chatting the other half. The social aspects of the game were great. I got to knew a lot of people thanks to believe or not global chat/trade channels.

What will make players keep playing Diablo 3 and increasing its playerbase won't be a new set of weapons or new areas. It will be the social aspect of the game. If the game or environment will make you feel lonely like bnet with SC2 does I'm afraid D3 will not have an increasing playerbase over time. I'd say if the playerbase declines just after a year the game is quite fail.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
February 07 2012 17:49 GMT
#91
Well thats one more game i wont be buying.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kmonx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States102 Posts
February 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#92
Blizzard changing the chat system doesn't bother me that much since there are ways to communicate(forums, skype, etc.) with people.
"Megapigs can fly, with Void Rays in the sky." - Day[9]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 07 2012 18:01 GMT
#93
On February 08 2012 02:53 Kmonx wrote:
Blizzard changing the chat system doesn't bother me that much since there are ways to communicate(forums, skype, etc.) with people.

Why have a friends list when you can just use facebook?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
February 07 2012 18:07 GMT
#94
Well this seems pretty relevant for the sc2 folks also. I guess we shouldn't expect any improvements in HotS.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:12:05
February 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#95
On February 08 2012 02:45 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:14 kuresuti wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:51 Kurr wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:48 ThaZenith wrote:
And yet again Blizzard is broadcasting their stupidity to the world.

They're lucky that people are so invested in them/their games in the present, but they're losing a lot of future loyalty by purposely fucking over their player base.


Completely agreed. I'm not sold on SC2 expansions yet and I'm not sold on any future games after D3 (including the expansion they will obviously sell us for the same price as the game).

In the future, my purchases of Blizzard games will be judged like other games so I will be harsher. I might buy a WC4 since I like WC3 a lot more than SC but it will highly depend on if they change their approach towards their games.

I'm going to buy Diablo 3 because I've been waiting a long time for it but even then that's a bit generous of me. I'll probably end up playing GW2 in the long term.


Seriously, how can you even think like this. You are experiencing a temporary rage because blizzard are idiots, but you haven't even tried the final product, maybe not even the very small beta!

You are not sold on the D3 expansion? What parts of it do you not like? Please list specifics.


SC2 is losing more and more players. I don't know why that is but I can only speak for myself when I say that I stopped logging in because of bnet without going through the complete list of things I don't like with it.

I expected SC2 to be like WoW, that is the population increasing over time not declining a year after release.

What made WoW was the social aspect of the game. I played so many years and thinking of what I actually did in the game it was like playing half the time and chatting the other half. The social aspects of the game were great. I got to knew a lot of people thanks to believe or not global chat/trade channels.

What will make players keep playing Diablo 3 and increasing its playerbase won't be a new set of weapons or new areas. It will be the social aspect of the game. If the game or environment will make you feel lonely like bnet with SC2 does I'm afraid D3 will not have an increasing playerbase over time. I'd say if the playerbase declines just after a year the game is quite fail.


I think you are overestimating the importance of chat channels, they are important but they are not integral. Many single player games do fine without any social aspect at all. The single player portion of D3 will most likely do just as well. How do you define success anyway? SC2 is a success of giant proportions, but it is losing players, is it a failed game after all?

You do have a valid point in that the social aspect is important in a game focused on multiplayer, but I think the majority of players will either play alone or with previous friends. I might be wrong about this but didn't most people use d2jsp or similar sites to do their socializing in D2?

Also comparing SC2 to D3 is difficult, since D3 can be played without competing. SC2 is a very competitive game and if you are not willing to compete, there isn't much content for you to enjoy. Casual bronze league games might be what they are, but they are still competitions. In D3 there will be a lot of content for the solo and/or non-competitive player to explore.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't get me wrong, I want chat channels because they are convenient. It won't ruin the game if they aren't there though in my opinion.


EDIT: Missing word :O
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
February 07 2012 18:13 GMT
#96
Is there a petition around to sign if you aren't willing to buy the game without offline play?
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
IseeFish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States45 Posts
February 07 2012 18:27 GMT
#97
On February 07 2012 05:59 andrewlt wrote:
You have to understand, you guys are the minority. The research pretty much confirms what Blizzard is doing. Basically, the biggest demographic of multiplayer videogames, 14-25 year old males, is a complete turn off to every other demographic. It's a negative experience for everyone else. Almost every other year, I read a major study showing how the biggest stumbling block to the expansion of hardcore multiplayer games is its current player base.

WoW's player base is generally older than most games in the market nowadays, especially FPS and action games. And I still have most general chat channels turned off on most of my characters. SC2's community is even worse, just judging from in game chat.

I can definitely see more negatives than positives in allowing public chat channels. It's pretty odd that they don't have guild support, though, as many of my current and former WoW guildmates are likely to pick up this game.


That's interesting if it's true. Where do you find those studies?
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:51:39
February 07 2012 18:35 GMT
#98
i wont miss public channels.. wasnt that scamming/spamming only in diablo2 ?! i played up to 2005 and i cant think of anyone i met from public channels. guild support is a must though, but im confident they will bring this in in the future.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
February 07 2012 18:57 GMT
#99
On February 08 2012 02:44 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:05 KenNage wrote:
i bought sc2 and regreted it, seems like this one will go to the same path so im not making the same mistake again (:


Says the person with over 500 posts on an sc2-related forum.


This forum predates sc2.

I agree with him completely, the new bnet made me not enjoy sc2 at all, won't be buying any blizzard games that use bnet 0.2.
k0pf
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:58:13
February 07 2012 18:57 GMT
#100
like they brought the clan support for sc2 ?! its just so dumb .. i rly cant get it .. i mean why blizz .. why ..

I always feel like blizz thinks the worst thing possible is a feature that noone uses ... but they're kinda wrong with that :-/
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