IGN's new $150k+ SC2 League - Page 30
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crystyxn
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kommunalka
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Hyst3ria
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MangoTango
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Joementum
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On March 27 2011 02:17 kommunalka wrote: Maybe im alone on this, but I think a caster like Catspajamas would be a great fit for a tourney like this.... that man has a golden voice. Yes! The guys voice is perfect for casting. | ||
CatsPajamas
United States337 Posts
On March 27 2011 06:22 Joementum wrote: Yes! The guys voice is perfect for casting. Well, ummm, *blush*. | ||
DomiNater
United States527 Posts
Your voice is Sex on fire | ||
ROOTCatZ
Peru1226 Posts
On March 24 2011 05:07 djWHEAT wrote: People got on my junk when I said the EXACT same thing about GOMtv's GSL. And I stuck by my word the entire time. I'm fine if people don't like what I've said in this thread, I've got 10 years of experience seeing leagues start, fail, succeed, and grow. You can ignore the past 10 years of history... or you can use it to see why many of their decisions are in fact "smart". Here are some FACTS: - CGS, the first North American Televised Gaming Show, was destroyed because they tried to bite off more than they could chew. They thought they NEEDED to go global with their initiative and the end result was a waste of nearly $20 million dollars. That league died so fast because money was spent poorly. So for those who are expressing their concern over the fact that it's a NA focused league should consider that any company who's "breaking" into SC2 would be silly to attempt a "global" league when it could indeed fail. It's MUCH SMARTER to start with a very controlled and cost effective project, and grow from there. Just because it appears NA is their target for their first venture, doesn't mean they are ignoring the rest of the world. And because I know someone will mention GSL, keep in mind that although GSL has "GLOBAL" in the title, they do not really have much operating cost outside of Korea. If you want to compete in that league you still have to get yourself to Korea to play. In CGS's case, they were fronting the cost of travel and accommodations for hundreds of players who ultimately (aside from a few Euro teams) brought nothing to the league. - IGN is a North American company. Although they have reach well beyond NA, it makes sense (even if strictly from an advertising POV) that it would limit the first project to NA. That's just business folks. And it's smart business. You might not agree with it, but it's a pretty wise move especially considering all the other leagues which have fallen due to their urgency to expand "globally". - North America has been look at in the eSports community as being "FUCKED UP" for the past 4 years. And technically, everyone who says this is right. We lost CPL, CGS, basically every major league which was present during the 2002-2005 eSports era. We need to rebuild like Doozers in Fraggle Rock. We need more potential for LAN events here in the US. As much as I preach global exposure to eSports, North America needs some SOLID leagues, events, and exposure to regain the prestige that NA once had. MLG is contributing to this and is a great effort, but we can't put all our eggs in one basket. NASL is a great start too... seeing IGN jump in the mix is equally as exciting. - And since we're on the topic of IGN. NASL, ESL, MLG, etc... sorry but those guys are small potatoes compared to the potential exposure, revenue, and stability that IGN has to offer. Sure they might not have a glowing history in Pro-Gaming, but does that mean we should crucify them before they've even technically announced their intentions? In fact, I think we should as supportive as possible because don't we, as fans, just want more content, games, etc? Additionally, it's a good time to reference the SotG PAX Edition in which Day[9] said one of the best way you can support SC2 is by SUPPORTING THE PLAYERS. With each new league that shows potential in this space, it's another opportunity for our rising NA stars to play, win, and earn. I for one would be tickled if I found out that my favorite NA players could focus 150% on SC2 because the amount of leagues (and potential prize money) continues to rise. Therefore... if we support the leagues, we're supporting the players (and even more than that - but I think this is a good time to reiterate what Day was saying). I understand my post may have come off as harsh... but I'm tired of seeing communities shit on efforts which can only further the cause. And if this turns out to be one massive pile of shit (which I really doubt will be the case) - then I'll gladly come back and say ALL YOU GUYS WERE RIGHT. Until then, I'll continue to be the snobby optimist that I am. hero | ||
waffling1
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RandomDude
United States18 Posts
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RodrigoX
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
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iiGreetings
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
I can't say I have a lot of experience watching leagues, but simply through common sense it would seem that even if a NA league kicks off with only NA players, if it were to be successful, it would eventually lead to expansion outside of North America. I guess now that I think about it he kind of already said that... but the point is if we really do (over the next few years or however long it takes) help esports explode in North America, it will be so much easier to have huge tournaments with players from all around the world rather than trying to grab them all right at the beginning. In other words... ya I think I'm pretty much just repeating what Wheat is saying... I will just stop and say... Very well said Wheat... I don't think I can agree more. | ||
Daystar
United Kingdom33 Posts
the ONLY thing that i have against it was mirrored by the comments on last weeks SotG, There are begining to be "too many" tournaments/leagues to keep track of. GSL flourishes because it is the best of the best, now theres going to be 3 NA leagues which ever is "the best" will succeed. Id like to be optomistic and see all 3 succeed but at the same time, why not move away from more leagues and invest the leagues currently planned, if that money could be fueled into ongoing projects, there is the definate possibilty of getting the best players involved, you can pay for flights, accomodation, equipment, improving the viewing experience etc. Instead were getting more leagues with "tier 2" competition due them not getting the huge names the NASL/GSL will get. Theres nothing to say the NASL will pull in the Koreans every season, if the TSL is anything to go by the "lag" would exclude them from the prize before they start. Invest in the foundation thats already there, build the product we have now upwards, not spread it out. | ||
Rauff
Denmark18 Posts
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ColonelSeitan
United States78 Posts
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sureshot_
United States257 Posts
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
This is based on Kelly's interview of TT1. He basically said he was in cali for the "IGN thing," this is before the GSL world champ. I hope they are putting lots of effort into production :-) I expect they are. | ||
Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
So I'm kind of sad that EU or more specifically swedes probably won't be able to do anything here, but it's a good thing for e-sports overall and NA especially. It's interesting how Sweden has been able to do so well in the e-sports scene from CS to war3 and SC2 and many others, and I think it's because of dreamhack and a larger culture for gaming. So something similar for NA should definetely get more players motivated and better I guess. But.. how many viewers are EU-based? I guess from a marketing perspective it's easier to get new viewers and ads for NA like pointed out. But an event like TSL3.. it wouldn't suprise me if the majority of viewers are EU? Or at least close? Just looking that that old TL.net poll "where are you from?" anyway. I hope they notice that there is a big market share on this side of the atlantic. In the meantime I can only think that it's a good thing that many tournaments are popping up and that prize pools are growing. Even if all of them can't make it it's good with a little competition I think, at least for me as a viewer. | ||
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