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ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
February 22 2011 01:49 GMT
#61
On February 22 2011 10:42 Karthane wrote:
I'm still a little baffled. Where the hell are they getting 400,000 dollars??

Theres been no mention of sponsors so all thats left is the Paid HD stream and they even talk about making money in the interview so I'm not sure what their expecting..
Can't imagine Justin.tv putting money into ontop of providing the stream and laying fiber, but maybe.

Still don't understand where incontrol is, I mean he's already closed a thread (about Huks Twitter) so not he's off the grid, the stream was (mostly) pre-recorded so theres no big stress to relieve, there isnt even an official thread so everyone's all of the place.

Anyway thanks motbob ofr making something semi-offical
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#62
On February 22 2011 10:43 Pinith wrote:
I really think they'd stand to make as much money and satisfy a lot more viewers with a lower premium price, I'm not sure I'm down with $25 a season compared to $10 for a GSL season

NASL season will be 14 weeks, also, it will be 3 HOURS per day 5 DAYS per WEEK.

it seems pretty reasonable
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:54:35
February 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#63
On February 22 2011 10:44 Nevy wrote:
They're making it so people from the same team won't face each other early on. That might be part of the reason why.

I assume they try to avoid team battles to do the teams a favor. Excluding one of the players is not doing any team a favor so it's hard to imagine that being the reason.

Maybe it's that players of a single team often have similar fans and you want to reach out to the various groups of fans. If there were a couple teams each dominating the scene with a lineup of 10 players then maybe that would lead to less viewers. Realistically however that rule will benefit the tournament way too sporadically compared to the harm it causes.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#64
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


1 player per division is important to this league.

Also with the league only being 50 players it's important teams are at least on face equally represented in a small league.

The OPEN allows for ANYONE to qualifty. #6 in your team? Sup, OPEN
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#65
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


Yeah, I don't particularly like this rule. It seems it's punishing teams with good players who can make a run in the tournament.The rule is going keep a couple of players participating in the tournament.
Don't mind me
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
February 22 2011 01:51 GMT
#66
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


Feel exactly the same. Also he said maybe max 5 from Korea? So you're basically counting Korea as a team and only the best 5 can compete? Thats obsurd and I can't fathom that even happening.
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shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 22 2011 01:51 GMT
#67
On February 22 2011 10:49 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:47 shaunnn wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


mouz, dignitas, root, eg, empire, millenium, prae, fnatic, aTn and mym all have 5 or less players who could make a dent who is the other team apart from liquid?

I do disagree with the rule but it does seem to only affect liquid


oGs? IM? With the prize pool this huge, there is no doubt that they will send players. I dunno about 5, but I would be extremely surprised if we didn't see some of their players.


In geoffs interview he said they would maybe have 5 koreans max due to latency issues
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 22 2011 01:52 GMT
#68
Liquip, EG, & Root to name a few all have more than 5 players who would have a decent shot at progressing well in this league. I certainly don't envy the person who has to pick who gets left out from each team.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 22 2011 01:52 GMT
#69
What maps are you going to use for this?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:53:22
February 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#70
On February 22 2011 10:48 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:46 Brad wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:42 Karthane wrote:
I'm still a little baffled. Where the hell are they getting 400,000 dollars??


The owner of Coaching, Russ, he is the mastermind. This is his baby. He partnered with a USC law school graduate named Duncan who's kind of an eSports newbie, he saw a nice business venture and he's excited and learning more about eSports and they backed it and created it.




So basically these guys has 400k sitting around to drop on a Starcraft 2 tournament?

I doubt the guy was willing to invest 400k of his own money however optimistic/loaded he is. I imagine there are quite a number of sponsors pitching in.
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Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
February 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#71
I'm curious as to why you will not allow individuals to participate in your league, meaning individuals without a team. Trying to filter out people like PiqLiq or something? lol.
Stick a fork in those buns.
10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
February 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#72
I wonder how team liquid will handle this? tlaf-lquid'tyler is surely going to participate, tlaf-liquid'ret if he (against all odds) doesn't succeed in gsl has said he wants to play in more foreign tournaments... jinro seem to like korea and does well enough (to say the least) to play in tournaments and not only practice and wait for qualifiers.
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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:55:32
February 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#73
On February 22 2011 10:48 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:46 Brad wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:42 Karthane wrote:
I'm still a little baffled. Where the hell are they getting 400,000 dollars??


The owner of Coaching, Russ, he is the mastermind. This is his baby. He partnered with a USC law school graduate named Duncan who's kind of an eSports newbie, he saw a nice business venture and he's excited and learning more about eSports and they backed it and created it.




So basically these guys has 400k sitting around to drop on a Starcraft 2 tournament?


Uhm, It's not just a 'tournament', it's a business. I'm sure if it's successful during the three month test run, we will be seeing NASL for a long time. Every project needs startup capital to get going.
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#74
The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.

Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeGoTShw

quoted from the interview
it says the third and fourth get auto-birthed, does 2nd also get auto birthed in addition to being the back up?
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
February 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#75
On February 22 2011 10:53 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:48 Karthane wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:46 Brad wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:42 Karthane wrote:
I'm still a little baffled. Where the hell are they getting 400,000 dollars??


The owner of Coaching, Russ, he is the mastermind. This is his baby. He partnered with a USC law school graduate named Duncan who's kind of an eSports newbie, he saw a nice business venture and he's excited and learning more about eSports and they backed it and created it.




So basically these guys has 400k sitting around to drop on a Starcraft 2 tournament?

I doubt the guy was willing to invest 400k of his own money however optimistic/loaded he is. I imagine there are quite a number of sponsors pitching in.


Yeah i was looking for sponsors when i asked, but the guy i quoted made it seem like it was just 1 or 2 guys.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:59:34
February 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#76
guys just use some math 50 players 5 asians if they come 45 spots max 5 each team 9 teams..

i dont think thats much so.. i thing if a team brought more than 5 players it would be kinda unfair...

not to talk about players that are not in a team filled with great players


i still think starcraft 2 needs a good Team League i think that would be something that would really help starcraft grow since teams get sponsors teams would try get more players etc.. at least would be more exciting.. im not saying this is not great anyway
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#77
On February 22 2011 10:53 Babaganoush wrote:
I'm curious as to why you will not allow individuals to participate in your league, meaning individuals without a team. Trying to filter out people like PiqLiq or something? lol.

hot lava flows.
orotoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States298 Posts
February 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#78
Also with the league only being 50 players it's important teams are at least on face equally represented in a small league.


Why?
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10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
February 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#79
this seem like a question that should have an easy to way to find the answer to but I can't find it: Who sponsors the entire event, price, production and so on, strictly gosucoaching?
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
February 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#80
On February 22 2011 10:50 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


1 player per division is important to this league.

Also with the league only being 50 players it's important teams are at least on face equally represented in a small league.

The OPEN allows for ANYONE to qualifty. #6 in your team? Sup, OPEN

iNc, what kind of participation are you expecting from other teams? I'm sure teams will want to be a part of this, but none of the players or managers seemed to have been informed of the details yet.

Are there plans to support European teams if they come over? Have you contacted the other teams and locked down some participants?
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