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Gescom
Canada3325 Posts
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Nevy
Canada169 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. They're making it so people from the same team won't face each other early on. That might be part of the reason why. | ||
DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
Will I be able to attend this event like people attend an MLG? | ||
okaygo
United States83 Posts
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Mystogun
United States392 Posts
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SushilS
2115 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:37 tree.hugger wrote: Perhaps this can turn into a bit of a Q&A thread. - How does the NASL foresee bringing in players from different continents? Will the league make accommodations, or will that be the sole responsibility of the their teams? This. If IdrA has come away from Korea tp play here when he might as well have been playing for both the GSL and the NASL(yeah, yeah.. we all know the Team house with the perverted old man wasnt reason enuff to leave GSL!) it kinda tells me that intercontinental play may be slightly compromised. ![]() | ||
mooose
Japan200 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:43 Pinith wrote: I really think they'd stand to make as much money and satisfy a lot more viewers with a lower premium price, I'm not sure I'm down with $25 a season compared to $10 for a GSL season It is longer than a GSL season though so you would be paying a roughly similar amount for the amount of content you get (I think?) | ||
udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. I could be wrong here, but they don't want team kills and NASL will have 50 players split up into 5 divisions of 10 players each so limit is 5 players per team to prevent team kills from happening in division play. it could also be a measure to prevent collusion from happening. | ||
Combine
United States812 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:40 DeltruS wrote: I really like how involved justin.tv is in this. How many viewers did we have for the showmatch? 20k? I also really like how fast Justin.tv gets vods up, and their quality. I know some people who hate the GSL stream because of it's low quality, but that doesn't sound like it is going to be a problem for anybody. Stream views were well over 30k (concurrent), quoting some of the mods of the chat. The viewer count was messed up and not showing Europe. Probably extremely high total then too. This thread clears up a lot of stuff, thanks. Need more of an official post where people can get all the information, can't get on the nasl website, still down for me. | ||
Brad
2754 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:42 Karthane wrote: I'm still a little baffled. Where the hell are they getting 400,000 dollars?? The owner of Coaching, Russ, he is the mastermind. This is his baby. He partnered with a USC law school graduate named Duncan who's kind of an eSports newbie, he saw a nice business venture and he's excited and learning more about eSports and they backed it and created it. | ||
shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. mouz, dignitas, root, eg, empire, millenium, prae, fnatic, aTn and mym all have 5 or less players who could make a dent who is the other team apart from liquid? I do disagree with the rule but it does seem to only affect liquid | ||
Shinobi1982
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orotoss
United States298 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. I don't understand this rule either. It seems like they want to have a lot of variety in order to make the tournament more entertaining. What they don't understand is that Starcraft fans are far more entertained by skills than names. I would much rather watch an unknown who is better than HuK than watch HuK himself play. This is like if pokerstars created a tournament with $400,000 and told all their players to vote for people. The big celeb players would for sure get voted but it's not like they wouldn't make it to the top in an open tournament anyway. This seems to go against the competitive spirit of Starcraft. | ||
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. 5 divisions with 10 players each in a league format. One team member per division. They're making sure there's no team kills, as well as collusion shenanigans, I guess. At least that's the only explanation I can really come up with. On February 22 2011 10:46 udgnim wrote: I could be wrong here, but they don't want team kills and NASL will have 50 players split up into 5 divisions of 10 players each so limit is 5 players per team to prevent team kills from happening in division play. it could also be a measure to prevent collusion from happening. Exactly this. | ||
Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough. Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out. Looks to me there is one particular team that would suffer the most from this rule. Very silly rule indeed. | ||
Karthane
United States1183 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:46 Brad wrote: The owner of Coaching, Russ, he is the mastermind. This is his baby. He partnered with a USC law school graduate named Duncan who's kind of an eSports newbie, he saw a nice business venture and he's excited and learning more about eSports and they backed it and created it. So basically these guys has 400k sitting around to drop on a Starcraft 2 tournament? | ||
.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
who are the sponsors behind the $400k? | ||
Oxb
199 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:43 mnofstl007 wrote: I have a question. What about other tournaments? This tournament is going to have games daily, 5 days a week. Kind of closes the doors for other tournaments who want the same competitors at their events. These also seem like relatively long seasons, which is both a positive and a negative. a Positive for the fans but seems like players will have to dedicate months at a time to this competition, closing the doors for chances of another tournament/series. any comments any1? Well there is 1 week for the open tournament and a 1week break, then a 16man lan (which takes like 2 days (1 weekend) i suppose. So then there is like a 2.5week window for many other tournaments, also I don't know how long the break will be after the seasons, so I suppose that's another gap for other tournaments. There are no games during the weekend so 'normal lans' shouldn't interfer at all, also since you need internet to play anyway, if the lan offers it, players can just play from basically anywhere they want since it's an online tournament. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
I strongly disagree with the maximum 5 players per team rule. The tournament should be about having the best players in the world regardless of what team they are. If the 6 best players in the world were on 1 team then the 6th best player on the planet would be excluded for no reason. I just don't see any possible benefit to excluding possible world class players because they are on a team full of other monsters. Also, the presentation for how this was announced leaves a lot to be desired. Incontrol has hyped this non stop and now that its finally announced there's so much unknown. I mean the first broadcast is in what 1.5 months and they really don't even know for sure who the casters will be? That just seems insane to me. I am also not a fan at all of almost every player being invited/voted on. I don't mind there being some invites but it really hurts the legitimacy of the league when there's no way, other than 1 1000 person tourney, for unknown players to qualify. With a game as new as SC2 there are tons of up and coming players who are incredibly good and just not famous yet. It sucks that these guys basically won't even get a chance. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15468 Posts
On February 22 2011 10:47 shaunnn wrote: mouz, dignitas, root, eg, empire, millenium, prae, fnatic, aTn and mym all have 5 or less players who could make a dent who is the other team apart from liquid? I do disagree with the rule but it does seem to only affect liquid oGs? IM? With the prize pool this huge, there is no doubt that they will send players. I dunno about 5, but I would be extremely surprised if we didn't see some of their players. | ||
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