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GSL S and A League and the Up/Down format revealed - Page 5

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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
December 16 2010 01:29 GMT
#81
I hate the idea of anyone busting their ass practicing for hour after hour, day after day only to have it all come down to a Bo1, especially with all the crap maps in the pool. The whole thing feels rushed.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
December 16 2010 01:42 GMT
#82
jinro vs idra.

gomtv's idea of a sick joke =\

letting foreigners kill themselves is so unfair!!
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
December 16 2010 01:55 GMT
#83
seriously why cant they make it a simple tournament format? why all this complex rules and procedures??
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 02:00:35
December 16 2010 01:59 GMT
#84
My god, this is so complex. Im wondering if this type of tournament "design" has been used before or was this specifically made for GSL.

Anyone?
edit: Not saying i dont like it,, =)
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
uurrnn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States19 Posts
December 16 2010 02:06 GMT
#85
On December 16 2010 10:42 iGX wrote:
jinro vs idra.

gomtv's idea of a sick joke =\

letting foreigners kill themselves is so unfair!!


You do realize that everyone in each group plays everyone else in their group. Idra and Jinro could both advance.
niteowl
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada14 Posts
December 16 2010 02:07 GMT
#86
like other posters I really don't like all the BO1...

considering map imbalances (thanks Blizz) and the facrt that the game already lends itself to huge amounts of cheese (in season 3 the macro games were few and far between) all these BO1 will just turn the tournament into a joke...
you can't show you're the best player in one game, even BO3 didn't prevent plenty of cheesers from qualifying for and moving up in seasons 1, 2 and 3, if they play just one mgame, well, they might just toss a coin, one good build and you win, one bad build (or bad in that one game anyways) and you're out...

too bad, I was looking forward to seeing all those great players but when the system seems to favor cheesers even more so than usual I think I'll pass

best of luck to Ret though, he's really underrated and should have made code S already (but he lost too cheese, hmmm)

really shows whoever coined the term e-sport doesn't really know what sports are about

peace, gl
ToneBone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 02:16:11
December 16 2010 02:15 GMT
#87
Whoever drew this up must be a soccer fan, because it seems like a mishmash of World Cup format + League Relegations

edit: Despite it's complexity, it makes sense. If only the random drawings for each group had worked out better..
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
December 16 2010 02:31 GMT
#88
On December 16 2010 03:05 Liquid`Ret wrote:
ya if ro32 and ro16 in code a are really best of 1 thats kinda ridiculous

I thought it was group play, which then Best of 1's would at least be... reasonable.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
December 16 2010 02:38 GMT
#89
On December 16 2010 11:07 niteowl wrote:
like other posters I really don't like all the BO1...

considering map imbalances (thanks Blizz) and the facrt that the game already lends itself to huge amounts of cheese (in season 3 the macro games were few and far between) all these BO1 will just turn the tournament into a joke...
you can't show you're the best player in one game, even BO3 didn't prevent plenty of cheesers from qualifying for and moving up in seasons 1, 2 and 3, if they play just one mgame, well, they might just toss a coin, one good build and you win, one bad build (or bad in that one game anyways) and you're out...

too bad, I was looking forward to seeing all those great players but when the system seems to favor cheesers even more so than usual I think I'll pass

best of luck to Ret though, he's really underrated and should have made code S already (but he lost too cheese, hmmm)

really shows whoever coined the term e-sport doesn't really know what sports are about

peace, gl


I agree, the bo1 format is just unfair for the players. It's probably due to time constraints though. Perhaps they could try to cast less games and instead have multiple games running at the same time? Code A isn't as attractive as Code S and I think most people would prefer a fairer tournament with bo3's for Code A ro32/16 instead of watching all the matches in Code A.
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PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 16 2010 02:39 GMT
#90
Don't know if this is listed but you guys need to check this out as well (or add it into the OP):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177251

Gives all the info about the tours (including Super Tournament, World Champs etc). Also....
"Code S
Ro32(16 players) : 1,500,000won each
Ro16(8 players) : 2,000,000won each
Ro8(4 players) : 3,000,000won each
Semifinals(2 players) : 5,000,000won each
Runner-up : 20,000,000won
Champion : 50,000,000won" So basically you get $1,300 US for being an S-Class automatically (which is pretty sweet on a non-salary basis).
the farm ends here
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 16 2010 03:08 GMT
#91
John kindly took the time to respond to my complaint post on the gomtv.net forums and said it's basically a case of time restrains as to why they can't run a (what we believe as more fair) system with full group round-robins and so forth. I understand that. So in this case, I still fully urge coping the MST group format, as below.
Game 1:A vs B
Game 2:C vs D
Game 3:Winner of Game 1 vs Winner of Game 2 -> this winner is #1 in the group
Game 4:Loser of Game 1 vs Loser of Game 2 -> this loser is #4 in the group
Game 5:Loser of Game 3 vs Winner of Game 4 -> winner is #2, loser is #3
As opposed to the current gom-explained system where the first and 2nd turns are preordained.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 16 2010 03:13 GMT
#92
Lol jinro vs Idra straight up! that is insanely awesome! and there is going to be so much money up for grabs; that is so freaking awesome! .. oh man..

I wander if iNcontrol will post his BO1 rant on this thread? Cause that was pretty epic during SotG lol!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 04:20:54
December 16 2010 03:26 GMT
#93
edit: it's winner vs loser in both round 2 matches, not winner vs winner and loser vs loser as I thought.. so i'm still unhappy.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
December 16 2010 04:08 GMT
#94
On December 16 2010 03:05 Liquid`Ret wrote:
ya if ro32 and ro16 in code a are really best of 1 thats kinda ridiculous


i agree, it should be atleast bo3... especially since they apply pressure on players to keep their status in single elim...
Sembei
Profile Joined October 2002
Argentina48 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 04:23:34
December 16 2010 04:17 GMT
#95
On December 16 2010 13:08 KiF1rE wrote:
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On December 16 2010 03:05 Liquid`Ret wrote:
ya if ro32 and ro16 in code a are really best of 1 thats kinda ridiculous


i agree, it should be atleast bo3... especially since they apply pressure on players to keep their status in single elim...


Is there any confirmation of the group matches being bo1?

I think the system is really good, the groups aren't round robin to gain time and they seed them by rank, that's a pretty good solution to the time issue, but only if the group matches are bo3.

I hope they will use bo3..

Edit: Yes, i read it again and you were talking about class A... bo1 there. That's really sad.
shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
December 16 2010 04:23 GMT
#96
will any of gsl matches be free for foreigners? or are we gonna have to bust out 15 a month every season
Mr.Ch4rms
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada84 Posts
December 16 2010 05:22 GMT
#97
nice MC vs Nada then Jinro vs Idra gonna be great matches early.
thats it stroke me clover
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
December 16 2010 05:57 GMT
#98
I find this unnecessarily confusing and complicated.
:)
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4519 Posts
December 16 2010 06:03 GMT
#99
On December 16 2010 08:33 Turgid wrote:
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On December 16 2010 07:58 shannn wrote:
MarineKingPrime.WE vs TSL_Clide ?!?!? How unlucky clide LOL.

KyrixZenith vs TSL_sSKS Probably my favourite MU because of Tester and Kyrix the agressor :D

Clide's a badass, man, I want to see how he prepares for this matchup. And I agree with you about Kyrix versus Tester.

Overall, despite the cheesing in GSL3, this GSL4 still looks damned scary. I guess we can't say "Oh, too bad they met each other so early in the tournament" anymore because everyone's such a badass.

Defensive master vs Offensive master.
Goin' be epic.
hi. big fan.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 06:23:49
December 16 2010 06:16 GMT
#100
Can't agree with the Bo1 in the 32 and 16 rounds of Code A. I think that at least Ro16 code A should be a Bo3.
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