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TehOne
4 Posts
Gundam probably has a real problem with his head, but he somehow was able to overcome it enough to not go through with the whole thing. The kid walked away with nothing physically done to him, he is obviously a good player and should continue his career after some help from a psychiatrist. Having said all this, Gundams actions were very very wrong, but he didn't go way overboard. Some people are born with unfortunately bad minds, it sucks that this kind of thing had to happen. | ||
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AgentMulder
United States54 Posts
On October 25 2010 11:42 TehOne wrote: I think Gundam deserves some credit. He didn't get aggressive and force the rape on the kid. Sure, his attempt was crazy and scary and wrecked the kids life, but just imagine how much worse it would have been had the kid actually been raped. Gundam probably has a real problem with his head, but he somehow was able to overcome it enough to not go through with the whole thing. The kid walked away with nothing physically done to him, he is obviously a good player and should continue his career after some help from a psychiatrist. Having said all this, Gundams actions were very very wrong, but he didn't go way overboard. Some people are born with unfortunately bad minds, it sucks that this kind of thing had to happen. Point taken. Let's give him some credit, he only tried to unzip a 15 year old's pants and grab his crotch. The kid physically wasn't hurt, let's send him to a shrink and all will be sunshine and buttercups. Un fucking believable. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:44 meeple wrote: I agree with what you said... but I'm confused about Q... G=gay B=bi T=tran Q=? Q stands for questioning NOT queer. | ||
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Proto_Protoss
United States495 Posts
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SirDuke
United States239 Posts
Anyways i hope all goes well for the rest of the WeRRa clan, defiantly a bummer that one pedo gets to destroy an amazing clan (even if he was the manager) | ||
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applejuice
307 Posts
On October 24 2010 17:30 HobbitGotGame wrote: Woop, good thing I'm Korean. Seriously, I'm getting tired of Japanese cultural stereotypes being applied to other Asian cultures. Or rather, people viewing China/Korea/Japan etc. as, "pretty much the same thing." Ya, when you get publicly ousted for molesting a child (and in Korea for being a potential homosexual/bisexual), it's gonna get ugly for you, but it's not because of some bullshit archaic BUSHIDO type code of honour or something. If I fuck up big time I'm not going to off myself because I "dishonoured" my family or something. I'd be offing myself because all my dignity was stripped away, and I'd have no prospect of a future after something scandalous is on my 'public' record (that's assuming if I was from a conservative Korean background). I may be nitpicking on semantics, but there is a distinct difference in the way which the words honour and more appropriate words like dignity connote to whatever you're writing. Back on topic: It's a shame WeRRa disbanded because of this. They really had a talented group of players and I really hope their core players are able to bring something back. I feel real sorry for the kid, shit like that is just so wrong, no matter how "minor" those trolls try to convince you it was. HURF DURF IT WAS ONLY A ZIPPER. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame_society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_South_Korea "The high rate of suicide in Japan may be linked to this societal structure, as well as in South Korea, where there is a similar shame society" "South Korea recently surpassed Japan in having the highest suicide rate among the 30 OECD countries" | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 25 2010 12:25 SirDuke wrote: After reading all 20+ pages of this forum it made me think that maybe the kid didn't elaborate entirely on what happened. Sure he did say enough for us to assume that Gundam really did molest him but I don't think anyone outside of the WeRRa clan could really know what happened, (except of course family, friends etc.). My heart defiantly goes out to the kid being strong enough to say what he did, but who knows if thats all that the perv really did to him. Anyways i hope all goes well for the rest of the WeRRa clan, defiantly a bummer that one pedo gets to destroy an amazing clan (even if he was the manager) kid was 15, that hardly makes gundam a pedo. technically that's within the realm of ephebophilia and I'm not even sure how old gundam is. probably 20 or something? what he did was terrible. if he was interested in the kid he should have been upfront and honest about it. i kinda feel bad for gundam that he is too ashamed of his sexuality to just be real about it and has to resort to touching guys in their sleep, that crosses way way over the line. i really hope the kid gets over it and has a good career in sc2 and that gundam comes to terms with his sexuality and expresses it in a healthier way. it's pretty brave of him to come out about it, a lot of victims of homosexual abuse never talk about it | ||
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Fraud
Canada108 Posts
Outside of a news purpose, this thread doesn't have a place here IMO. Let the police deal with this... | ||
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KiNPiN
United States32 Posts
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Antpile
United States213 Posts
On October 25 2010 13:11 KiNPiN wrote: it's not pedophilia if the kid's 15. This is true. Pedophilia is being attracted to pre-pubescent children. Hence the term "jail bait" for girls that are very attractive but still under the legal age of consent. Pedophilia is way worse. These are the sickos that are attracted to 8 year olds and stuff. That's a whole different ballgame. That doesn't make this any less terrible though. Molesting a minor is still a really serious offense. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 25 2010 13:28 Antpile wrote: This is true. Pedophilia is being attracted to pre-pubescent children. Hence the term "jail bait" for girls that are very attractive but still under the legal age of consent. Pedophilia is way worse. These are the sickos that are attracted to 8 year olds and stuff. That's a whole different ballgame. That doesn't make this any less terrible though. Molesting a minor is still a really serious offense. it's wrong to molest anybody | ||
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AngelusDeLetum
United States98 Posts
On October 25 2010 11:42 TehOne wrote: I think Gundam deserves some credit. He didn't get aggressive and force the rape on the kid. Sure, his attempt was crazy and scary and wrecked the kids life, but just imagine how much worse it would have been had the kid actually been raped. Gundam probably has a real problem with his head, but he somehow was able to overcome it enough to not go through with the whole thing. The kid walked away with nothing physically done to him, he is obviously a good player and should continue his career after some help from a psychiatrist. Having said all this, Gundams actions were very very wrong, but he didn't go way overboard. Some people are born with unfortunately bad minds, it sucks that this kind of thing had to happen. Are you fucking kidding me dude? Just because he didnt get raped doesnt mean that this dudes actions wont haunt him for the rest of his life, you really need to think before you post garbage like that man. Saying Gundam should get some credit is ludicrous. | ||
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
That's correct. What we're dealing with is somebody in a position of power who sexually assaulted a younger boy. "According to part of the Protection of Minors from Sexual Exploitation Law [50], it is a criminal offense to coerce a minor under the age of 19 to a sexual act. Culturally it is not accepted to have sexual act with a minor under the age of 19 even with the consent of the minor at the age of 13 or above, as evidenced by surprise and uproar when a man was acquitted of sexual relationship with a 16-year old teenage runaway in 2001. [51]" He's both both legally and socially in a shit-load of trouble. It's not paedophilia, but it is basically rape. Socially, it might as well be paedophilia. At the same time though, don't look at it like he sexually abused a 6-year old. I think we all remember when we were 15 and the hijinx we got up to. EDIT: It's still a terribly sad turn of events for LoveRip and WeRRa. It's really too bad Gundam resorted to this, don't they have craigslist in Korea? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 25 2010 13:48 Zerokaiser wrote: In reply to the recent "It's not paedophilia". That's correct. What we're dealing with is somebody in a position of power who sexually assaulted a younger boy. "According to part of the Protection of Minors from Sexual Exploitation Law [50], it is a criminal offense to coerce a minor under the age of 19 to a sexual act. Culturally it is not accepted to have sexual act with a minor under the age of 19 even with the consent of the minor at the age of 13 or above, as evidenced by surprise and uproar when a man was acquitted of sexual relationship with a 16-year old teenage runaway in 2001. [51]" He's both both legally and socially in a shit-load of trouble. It's not paedophilia, but it is basically rape. Socially, it might as well be paedophilia. At the same time though, don't look at it like he sexually abused a 6-year old. I think we all remember when we were 15 and the hijinx we got up to. i absolutely agree with you the problem is that he molested and exploited a member on his team not that he was 15. also in response to your craigslist comment he was probably way too ashamed of his sexuality to do something like that, I really doubt he's bisexual. he wouldn't even answer when the kid straight up asked him if he was gay. repressing yourself sexually like that can lead to some extreme things imo hopefully this experience teaches gundam the dangers of lying to yourself | ||
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KiNPiN
United States32 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
On October 25 2010 13:59 KiNPiN wrote: Is this even confirmed or just the accusations of a 15 year old? WeRRa wouldn't disband because of an unconfirmed rumour. | ||
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.Aar
Korea (South)2177 Posts
Truly disappointing. | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
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.Aar
Korea (South)2177 Posts
On October 25 2010 13:59 KiNPiN wrote: Is this even confirmed or just the accusations of a 15 year old? Do you seriously think there's any chance he just made this up? I know teenagers are attention whores, but he dropped out of high school for this. That's fucking huge even in the States, but in Korea, that basically means your options (besides progaming) are "go to jail" or "kill yourself." I say this to you as a Korean male who grew up told, every single time we passed by a homeless man, or a worker at a fast food restaurant, or any black or hispanic man who wasn't wearing a suit, "You're going to end up like that man, and probably die alone and poor, if you don't get straight A's and get in to a good college." I am not using the phrase "every single time" here as a hyperbole. | ||
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GrapeD
Canada679 Posts
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