I dont understand why you all go crazy because of the voidray...
I am sure they got a replay by a good player offracing and showing how to use the build/voidray and that its not stoppable without ending way behind and so they took the build in own games with knowing it would come and werent able to stop it without ending way behind too and so they started to think about the problem and what to do to fix this and so they made the charged attack weaker but the uncharged stronger so the problem has to do with charged voids and imo it was ridiculous that a charged voidray was like ZZZZZZZPPP ZZZZZZPPP and everything popping out was just dead i mean it even killed 2 viking nearly instantly if it was above the production buildings.
Without the replay we cant know for sure what the problem was, but I dont think that they got the replay, just saw it and were like "ok lets nerf it". seriously what are you all thinking?

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On October 22 2010 23:06 GreEny K wrote:
I was wondering what happened to him after Beta. He should get involved with more Tourneys, I'd like to see him more popular as a gamer.

afaik blizzard didnt allowed him and some other blizzard employee to take part in tours. I think he even posted it himself in some thread on tl.net if I am not totally wrong.

7mk

Germany10157 Posts

October 22 2010 14:22 GMT

#145

^ Yes, David Kim is not allowed to participate in tourneys.
Sucks for him, really :p

On October 22 2010 19:08 DND_Enkil wrote:
I seriously dot get all the hate here?

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He says they balance primarily around 1v1 but if there is an issue breaking 2v2 they have to fix that, and will try to do so in a way that affects 1v1 as little as possible. Same for the silver issue, if there is something breaking a match-up there they have to fix it. Imbalances are fine, a broken game is not and should not be ignored in any league.

I agree about 2v2 but how can anything possibly be breaking a match-up at silver lvl?
Wtf does that mean?
Imbalance means something is unfair, if proxy 2 gates beat you all the time, learn how to defend vs that, there you go, problem solved, nothing's broken whatsoever.

On October 22 2010 22:30 Jibba wrote:
Q. We had a Zerg winner in GSL Season 1. Will that have an impact in balancing?

A. We can't do balancing patch around just 1 game or 10 games.

Q. Recent patch changed how Void Rays work?

A. A Korean progamer, who played a Protoss although his main race isn't Protoss, sent us a replay showing a weakness of opponents in a certain specific period of time when a Protoss is using a Void Ray. Through the replay, we gave Void Ray the change that it received.

C'mon, Dayvie.

yea that was a big wtf.

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

October 22 2010 14:32 GMT

#146

Grandmaster League - This is just what I needed for the ladder. Hopefully it wont contain a bonus pool.

Very excited for Blizzcon information

senor_gomez

United States162 Posts

October 22 2010 14:41 GMT

#147

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/715900/1/dayvie/matches

LoL at battlecraft! (almost the entire page at this posting)

Glad to see a top player on the balance team though.

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19327 Posts

October 22 2010 14:42 GMT

#148

Sweet, nice interview. DK is my favorite!

butter

United States785 Posts

October 22 2010 14:52 GMT

#149

I think the distinction he is making is clear enough. Balance changes can't be made on the basis of the outcome of a series when ambiguous positions arise within the game. But a single example is enough to recognize an abusable timing or technique which is subject to patching.

formthehead

United States81 Posts

October 22 2010 14:58 GMT

#150

It seems to me that a group of people already wanted to think that Blizzard only cares about "casuals" and balances the game around silver league play, and as soon as an interview comes around where a blizzard employee admits that there are leagues other than 1v1 diamond, they take it as an opportunity to rage about imba. If one wants to argue with the results then that is fine, and judging by the general state of the forums, lots of people were unhappy with the state of balance before patches anyways. Blizzard possibly being more transparent about how the balance process occurs or having more of an open discussion with the community about certain changes would be good, but seeing that there's a massive shitstorm no matter how they choose to do it, it's not surprising that they go about it this way.

Is high-level 1v1 broken because of depot before racks? If 2v2 or silver-level balance is inconsequential than this is the only question that matters. There are some high-level players who like the change, and there are probably some who don't. Questioning blizzard's competency seems like a way of discussing balance without having to get actual evidence or a coherent argument.

Purpose2

England187 Posts

October 22 2010 15:14 GMT

#151

On October 22 2010 14:20 TheSCII wrote:
lol GM league seems so... odd... since at a 2000+ diamond you probably only play people around that skill level anyways, and not lower tier players

Warming up for MLG DC on the ladder HuK played against Ret, Ret being Platinum at the time..

out4blood

United States313 Posts

October 22 2010 15:37 GMT

#152

If they needed a mineral designation above Diamond, they should have gone with Unobtanium.

Buddhist

United States658 Posts

October 22 2010 15:58 GMT

#153

"It's unfortunate that everyone hates you"

I lol'd.

Lonyo

United Kingdom3884 Posts

October 22 2010 16:01 GMT

#154

On October 23 2010 00:14 TheSs wrote:

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Warming up for MLG DC on the ladder HuK played against Ret, Ret being Platinum at the time..

If it's LiquidRet on the NA ladder, he's still Platinum, at 2300 points with ~65 games played (55-10).

Vortok

United States830 Posts

October 22 2010 16:02 GMT

#155

The amusing thing to me is that the GM league will likely have way less BM than Diamond, per capita.

Also, it lets random forumites who care about such numbers to scoff at people saying they're #### Diamond. "What? Only Diamond? Come back when you're Grand Master, scrub!"

I'm ok with them keeping an eye on 2v2. It was a format that was played professionally for a number a years in Proleague, so it's not like wanting to keep 2v2 playable is just some casual catering decision out of the blue.

dcberkeley

Canada844 Posts

October 22 2010 16:03 GMT

#156

They're not balancing around Silver/team games... they're trying to improve them without changing much at higher levels

PackofHighly

United States153 Posts

October 22 2010 16:08 GMT

#157

Why does the interview read like it was done at gun point?

Either way, very good stuff.

BlasiuS

United States2405 Posts

October 22 2010 16:19 GMT

#158

On October 23 2010 01:03 dcberkeley wrote:
They're not balancing around Silver/team games... they're trying to improve them without changing much at higher levels

well since silver/team games use the same units and same buildings, with the same stats, and same rules, it's literally impossible to make balance changes that ONLY affect team games/bad players without affecting the game at higher levels as well.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

October 22 2010 16:28 GMT

#159

Holy crap, looking at the picture in this interview, I just realized that David Kim is the same David Kim I went to school with in Canada! We were dormmates one year, I hardly saw him because he had a Korean roommate and they played BW ALL THE TIME! Wow, I'm glad that it kinda worked out for him after all...

AmstAff

Germany949 Posts

October 22 2010 16:34 GMT

#160

On October 23 2010 01:28 aidnai wrote:
Holy crap, looking at the picture in this interview, I just realized that David Kim is the same David Kim I went to school with in Canada! We were dormmates one year, I hardly saw him because he had a Korean roommate and they played BW ALL THE TIME! Wow, I'm glad that it kinda worked out for him after all...

rofl you KNOW david kim, on this board its like knowing britney spears in real life :D