EPT[H] PvZ Zerg All-ins - Page 2
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AttackZerg
United States7577 Posts
3 main varieties 1gate vs zerg all-in 2gate vs zerg all-in Fe vs zerg all-in All three situations are competely different. WTF? | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
I think we need an example of a good op in the strategy forum guidelines, so that people can figure out what is blatantly a shitty thread and which ones are worth responding to when making their op. Or you can have a big flashing sign under the create new thread button that reads: "Don't Make a Shitty Op pl0x!" edit: and with no effort to fix his terrible thread + right after the purge  | ||
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village_idiot
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
 chill please dont ban me i couldnt resist it | ||
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
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Love.Zelduck
United States170 Posts
Fe toss vs 3 hatch muta Honestly, even if I manage to get up cannons/archons or cannons/sairs or whatever (which for some reason feels like it takes too long), I still have waaay too much trouble getting any kind of ground army going in time to stop him from taking the whole map. Should I just stop FEing? I really feel like I'm so bad at it that I give up all map control. Course, I have no idea how to transition a 2 gate opening into standard pvz (whatever that is...) lol | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Scout it... Really the only like all in zerg can do in zvp is like 5 pool. Else you should notice zerg building up units to storm your base. | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
On December 30 2008 16:17 Love.Zelduck wrote: Okay, so I have a situation that I can't seem to deal with. Fe toss vs 3 hatch muta Honestly, even if I manage to get up cannons/archons or cannons/sairs or whatever (which for some reason feels like it takes too long), I still have waaay too much trouble getting any kind of ground army going in time to stop him from taking the whole map. Should I just stop FEing? I really feel like I'm so bad at it that I give up all map control. Course, I have no idea how to transition a 2 gate opening into standard pvz (whatever that is...) lol It shouldn't be that hard. If your going for the standard FE into stargate/citadel BO your sair should scout his tech when his spire is almost done and you should continue sair production and add 2 cannons at each mineral line (more if you see he continues to mass mutas/scourge.) The constant sair pump till you have 5-7 along with the cannons should be plenty to protect you while you add on gates and go zeal/goon/storm/obs and prepare to take your 3rd and pressure his 3rd/try and deny his 4th. I wonder if your beginning BO isn't correct and your sair is slow in scouting him perhaps? | ||
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
late nat gas = all-in in fact, just get like 5 cannons at expo and 2-3 in your main, just to be safe. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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fonger
United Kingdom1218 Posts
On December 30 2008 13:56 sYz-Adrenaline wrote: How to spot? Stop? counter? etc wuts hatnin bruh | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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Love.Zelduck
United States170 Posts
On December 30 2008 16:23 Jonoman92 wrote: It shouldn't be that hard. If your going for the standard FE into stargate/citadel BO your sair should scout his tech when his spire is almost done and you should continue sair production and add 2 cannons at each mineral line (more if you see he continues to mass mutas/scourge.) The constant sair pump till you have 5-7 along with the cannons should be plenty to protect you while you add on gates and go zeal/goon/storm/obs and prepare to take your 3rd and pressure his 3rd/try and deny his 4th. I wonder if your beginning BO isn't correct and your sair is slow in scouting him perhaps? Thanks. It really is a bo problem I'm sure. I still mess up probe transfer in timing and I think amount, and I seem to not have enough money to do everything that I feel like I should be doing, but at least I don't mess up probe pumping lol. idk, it feels like if i'm pumping probes, adding pylons, and pumping sairs that I mess up my timing on the whole citadel, +1atk, templar archives, adding gates, leg speed, adding cannons. If I know he's going mutas (like, a lot), when should I add cannons in there, how soon should my gates be up, and how the hell do I have enough mins for gates+cannons while having enough gas for sair pump + tech + archons. lol Time to go practice a bit and watch some reps. I should be able to get this straight soon lol. Oh and btw, it doesn't help that I'm only like 80-90 apm xD I've been doing okay in general, but most of my exp is in PvT and PvP, so I'm basically learning PvZ for the first time. | ||
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Chameleon
United States604 Posts
On December 30 2008 15:36 Caller wrote: when we say scout, we don't mean build a scout by the way, but we mean send a scouting probe chill please dont ban me i couldnt resist it shhh dont listen to this guy I meant build a scout from stargate asap!!11! | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Dataleif
Sweden252 Posts
On December 30 2008 14:05 coolcrimefighter wrote: hydra isnt all in, either way storm>mass lings/hydras if you're referring to early lings, good probe micro will hold off a 4/5 pool why isnt it all-in? of course it depends on the amount of drones and hatches the z has before he attacks. For instance the 2 hatch hydra from july vs bisu on blue storm was pretty much all-in and that storm youre talking about wont help that early. More hatches than that isnt all-in like you say but why should we even discuss that here? | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
On December 30 2008 15:03 Avidkeystamper wrote: I posted in a closed thread. ^^ I quoted and posted in a closed thread. ^^ | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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