On September 15 2008 15:54 starcraft911 wrote: I can't help but notice that the poll here is VERY heavily weighted toward Obama. Could someone try to sum up in a few sentences why they believe Obama would make a good president preferably not why he would be BETTER than McCain.
I'm far from a conservative... I'm pro-choice, pro-equal rights, pro-gays/trannies (lol), and believe religion is for stupid people, but I find myself more comfortable with McCain in office than Obama.
I don't see how increasing government size could possible be a good thing under any circumstance. I don't understand how giving handouts to people who do little/nothing is good under any circumstance. give a man a fish or teach a man to fish... anyways, I'm older than most people on here. I've been around for a few elections and this one is the most perplexing for me. :/
It's not about giving hand outs to people who do little/nothing. A lot of the programs he's running on are incentive based, like college scholarships for community service or teacher award programs. The tax cuts and universal health care are actually tools to improve the economy. Supposedly there'd be more money to put back in and a healthier work force means a much more efficient work force. Government pays for a lot of things. A lot of them are bad, but other times it's extremely useful for improving technology, standard of living and it's another way to put money into the economy.
I won't get into policy now (no time), but I'd also point out that it should be hard for anyone who is paying attention to be happy with the way McCain has been acting the past two weeks. Put aside the choice of Palin as VP (a debate for another thread) and the fact that since the primaries started, McCain's come out and started to look like a down-the-line Bush supporter instead of the vaunted "maverick" he still gets labeled.
Specifically, he's been lying (Palin too) about just about everything (Obama's sex-ed policy, his and Obama's defense record, specifically the FCS, the "bridge to nowhere" fiasco, saying she's never requested earmarks as governor, his lies about Obama's raising taxes on "ordinary families", his mischaracterization of the small business effects of the Obama plan, the misrepresentation of Obama's estate tax proposal, the whole lipstick on a pig debacle, etc). So much that even the previously numb media is starting to call a spade a spade. All of these issues are cut-and-dried factual matters, with no room for argument. I'm not even mentioning honest policy disgreements between the two. He's just lying. Over and over and over. And this is all in the past two weeks!!!
I can provide sources for any of these things, if needed. But you're better off looking at some websites you feel are trustworthy and going from there.
It's interesting how the majority of people i hear think Palin was a HORRIBLE choice or an AMAZING choice. I don't hear too many people say that she's an "OK" choice which I think is very good for republicans.
The more the media fails to defame her the stronger she becomes. It's like feeding EXP to the lvl 5 demonhunter (Palin) and once she hits 6 she's going to metamorph and assrape Obama. Sorry for using WC3 talk... forgive me...
If I were trying to get Obama elected, I'd ignore Palin and make her seem insignificant in the public eye. Treating someone as a non-factor is going to make people believe they are in fact a non-factor, but treating like they are the opponent does nothing but empower them.
At a fundraiser in Canton, Ohio, this evening, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin had an interesting description of her speech to the Republican convention.
"There Ohio was right out in front, right in front of me," Palin said. "The teleprompter got messed up, I couldn't follow it, and I just decided I'd just talk to the people in front of me. It was Ohio."
This struck many of us -- who, as she spoke, followed along with her prepared remarks, and noted how closely she stuck to the script -- as an unusual claim. (Especially those of my colleagues on the convention floor at the time, reading along on the prompter with her, noticing her excellent and disciplined delivery, how she punched words that were underlined and paused where it said "pause," noting that "nuclear" was spelled out for her phonetically.) [...]
"The teleprompter did not break," wrote Politico's Jonathan Martin. "Sarah Palin delivered a powerful speech last night, but she did not 'wing it'..."
i swear i actually heard her mumble 'pause' during the speech. did anyone else notice her say that? i watched it a while ago, but i'm almost positive i heard that.
Still think Obama's gonna win. Tried to place a bet on him on intrade but due to some law passed by asshole congress, it said my bank wouldn't allow it.
McCain is pushing a supply side economic agenda, that feeds the economy from the top. The last few days his entire stump speech is about how the top of the economy is broken and crooked, and it is the middle class worker that is the strength of our economy. If the top is so broken and crooked, why is he placing the success of his economic agenda on their shoulders?
Even though RIM is a Canadian-based company. Why work across the aisle when you can work across the 49th parallel. You can't make this stuff up.
He added, though, that McCain — who has struggled to stress his economic credentials this cycle — did have experience dealing with the economy, pointing to his time on the Senate Commerce Committee. Pressed to provide an example of what McCain had accomplished on that committee, Holtz-Eakin said the senator did not have jurisdiction over financial markets — then held up his Blackberry, telling reporters: “He did this.”
“Telecommunications of the United States, the premiere innovation in the past 15 years, comes right through the Commerce Committee. So you’re looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create,” said Holtz-Eakin. “And that’s what he did. He both regulated and de-regulated the industry.”
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UPDATE: The Obama campaign responded to the comments minutes after they were reported. “If John McCain hadn’t said that ‘the fundamentals of our economy are strong’ on the day of one of our nation’s worst financial crises, the claim that he invented the BlackBerry would have been the most preposterous thing said all week,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.
Five former Secretaries of State from both parties told CNN Monday the Bush administration’s hard-line approach on Iran needs to be abandoned by the next president – with one GOP foreign policy heavyweight calling the current White House position “ridiculous.”
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“Some debate in the presidential elections has basically been, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” said CNN correspondent Christiane Amanpour. “What does that mean? It's the same as was said after 9/11.”
Responded Powell, “One candidate said that, and I'll let the candidate explain it for himself.” Pressed to explain his response, the retired general said the crisis called for caution.
“The fact of the matter is that you have to be very careful in a situation like this not just to leap to one side or the other until you take a good analysis of the whole situation….
“The Russian Federation is not going to become the Soviet Union again. That movie failed at the box office. But they do have interests. And we have to think carefully about their interests.”
Hey, while you're at it you better not forget to try out the Sarah Palin Baby Name Generator. What would you be called if Sarah Palin was your mother? The results may shock you!
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