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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 07:43:34
July 19 2008 22:44 GMT
#1

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This is a thread to discuss all things relating to the 2008 Presidential Election,
which will be held on November 4, 2008.







The Presidential tickets ...


John McCain / Sarah Palin, representing the Republican Party. Platform

Barack Obama / Joe Biden, representing the Democratic Party. Platform






Other Resources ...

Real clear politics (polls & key stories).
US Election issues guide.
On the issues.







Teamliquid.net makes it's decision ...



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      Poll: Which Presidential ticket do you support?
      (Vote): John McCain / Sarah Palin
      (Vote): Barack Obama / Joe Biden
      (Vote): Ralph Nader / TBD
      (Vote): Bob Barr / TBD


*Ron Paul was removed as an option in this poll, as he ended his campaign for the Presidency
June 12, 2008




+ Show Spoiler [Primary Coverage] +
+ Show Spoiler [Graphs] +

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*As of May 21 (numbers from Realclearpolitics.com)
*There is no republican chart because the republican nominee (John McCain) is already determined.


+ Show Spoiler [What are delegates?] +

Pledged Delegates

Delegates that are acquired through the primary elections. They are awarded proportionally to the share of the vote garnered in each primary or caucus.

Superdelegates

Members of the democratic party's establishment. These delegates can support whoever they like and can change their support at any time.

There are 796 superdelegates. If neither candidate can garner sufficient pledged delegates to clinch the nomination, it is widely believed the superdelegates will side behind whoever is the "people's choice" (aka the leader in pledged delegates and popular vote).



+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +
Prediction Markets as of May 21
(Comparisons are to Feb 5 numbers)

To win democrat nomination:

Barack Obama 90%
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Hillary Clinton 10%
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+ Show Spoiler [What do these mean?] +
Prediction percentages from www.Intrade.com

Intrade, is The Prediction Market where you can buy and sell "shares" in financial, political, weather and other important subjects.



TL.net Makes it's nominations:

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Poll: Who do you want to be the democrat nominee?
(Vote): Hillary Clinton
(Vote): Barracks Obama



*The republican poll has ended because their nomination process is over. John McCain is their nominee. + Show Spoiler [Republican Poll] +
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State by state January results:+ Show Spoiler +


Jan 3. IOWA (R) (D)

Republican Winner: Mike Huckabee
Democrat Winner: Barack Obama

Jan 5. WYOMING (R) *

Republican Winner: Mitt Romney

Jan 8. NEW HAMPSHIRE (R) (D)

Republican Winner: John McCain
Democrat Winner: Hillary Clinton

Jan 15. MICHIGAN (R)

Republican Winner: Mitt Romney

Jan 19. NEVADA (R) (D), SOUTH CAROLINA (R)

Republican Winners: Mitt Romney (NEVADA)*, John McCain (SOUTH CAROLINA)
Democrat Winner: Hillary Clinton

Jan 26. SOUTH CAROLINA (D)

Democrat Winner: Barack Obama

Jan 29. FLORIDA (R)

Republican Winner: John McCain


*Not a key state


Standings (Key states won)
- Non key states in brackets

Republicans
John McCain - 3
Mitt Romney - 1 (2)
Mike Huckabee - 1

Democrats
Hillary Clinton - 2
Barack Obama - 2




*Because Barack Obama clinched the Elected Delegates on may 20 all future primary and caucus results are now insignificant, so I will not update them.+ Show Spoiler [Latest Results] +
LATEST RESULTS


April 22 - Pennsylvania (158 delegates)
  • Clinton 85 delegates won (+12)
  • Obama 73 delegates won

May 3 - Guam (4 delegates)
  • Obama 2 delegates won (+0)
  • Clinton 2 delegates won

May 6 - North Carolina (115 delegates)
  • Obama 63 delegates won (+16)
  • Clinton 47 delegates won
  • TBD 5 delegates

May 6 - Indiana (72 delegates)
  • Clinton 37 delegates won (+4)
  • Obama 33 delegates won
  • TBD 2 delegates



UPCOMING CONTESTS


May 13 - West Virginia (28 delegates)
  • TBD




      Check out Servo's primary thread here and the previous incarnation of this thread here

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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
July 19 2008 23:40 GMT
#2
Technically, the nominees are not official until the conventions. I think it'd be interesting to discuss VP picks in this thread, if anyone has any insight on that.

For this election, it seems like it's going to come down to the economy, and energy, including mortgages, bank failings, oil prices, taxes, etc. These really dwarf Obama's health care plans and either candidate's military position (especially since Obama has come to the center).
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-19 23:51:06
July 19 2008 23:50 GMT
#3
It's been a pretty bad month for Obama he has slipped everywhere it seems. Even with McCain joking about killing Iranians again, and saying that the economy issue is simply "psychological" the media for some reason hasn't caught that, and with the New Yorker's front cover the media seemed to ignore that as well. That didn't seem to be newsworthy.

From FiveThirtyEight.com

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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
July 20 2008 04:12 GMT
#4
If McCain wins, I'm finishing my MD and leaving this country.
Live to win.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 20 2008 05:54 GMT
#5
On July 20 2008 13:12 aRod wrote:
If McCain wins, I'm finishing my MD and leaving this country.


Bush won 2 terms, who are you fooling. Just leave now ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
July 20 2008 06:17 GMT
#6
On July 20 2008 13:12 aRod wrote:
If McCain wins, I'm finishing my MD and leaving this country.

I think a lot of people my do something similar.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 20 2008 13:39 GMT
#7
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/07/19/mccain.obama.vs.facts.cnn
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 20 2008 17:55 GMT
#8
I'm quite undecided atm.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 20 2008 18:03 GMT
#9
I wish Obama wins
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
July 20 2008 18:20 GMT
#10
How can anyone be undecided here? McCain is 72. He's already showing signs of senility. You don't give senile war veterans with low intelligence that have 72-76 years on them nukes. We don't need more senseless foreign policy.
Live to win.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 21 2008 02:42 GMT
#11
Sometimes, I wonder if random or "senseless" policy making really would be worse than what we have right now.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 03:13:11
July 21 2008 03:12 GMT
#12
On July 21 2008 11:42 BottleAbuser wrote:
Sometimes, I wonder if random or "senseless" policy making really would be worse than what we have right now.


As far as foreign policy goes, senseless is what we have. Or was... George W. has been changing things up recently.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 21 2008 17:36 GMT
#13
I think I'm gonna punch the next assclown who can't give me any reasons they dislike Obama besides 'he's a nigger and/or a muslim terrorist'

People are so fucking lame
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2008 18:55 GMT
#14
On July 21 2008 12:12 Mindcrime wrote:
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On July 21 2008 11:42 BottleAbuser wrote:
Sometimes, I wonder if random or "senseless" policy making really would be worse than what we have right now.


As far as foreign policy goes, senseless is what we have. Or was... George W. has been changing things up recently.


Obviously, it's amazing the word flip flop hasn't been issued in regards to the president. Bolton, doesn't even like Bush now that he is pretty much trying to sit down with Iran, and give into N. Korea. It's almost like Bush is trying to pack as much diplomatic improvements into his administration before the general election.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 22 2008 01:19 GMT
#15
Sorry for the double post, but McCain screws up Geography lesson once again.

"I think it's serious. . . . It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."


First it was Putin being President of Germany, then the Czech situation, and then mixes up culture groups in Iraq. Now I can see how it might just be a mess up of the tongue but come on it's like a business meeting gone wrong.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
July 22 2008 01:28 GMT
#16
Or the Al'Qaeda in Iran, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
wtf was that signature
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
July 22 2008 04:38 GMT
#17
Obama sucks, but McCain belongs in a retirement home.

So i'll probably vote for Obama.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
July 22 2008 04:45 GMT
#18
a-game, stop posting on TL please, jesus christ.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
July 22 2008 05:14 GMT
#19
On July 22 2008 13:45 HeadBangaa wrote:
a-game, stop posting on TL please, jesus christ.

?
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 22 2008 05:20 GMT
#20
On July 22 2008 02:36 Hawk wrote:
I think I'm gonna punch the next assclown who can't give me any reasons they dislike Obama besides 'he's a nigger and/or a muslim terrorist'

People are so fucking lame


Sadly, 80% of those who dislike him seem to give me that same answer.
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