2008 US Presidential Election - Page 128

On October 12 2008 11:34 XoXiDe wrote:
those damn scientists figuring out the earth wasn't flat........ or is it?

On October 12 2008 11:41 evandi wrote:


Well, you can believe them. But its pretty obvious. Obviously the fact that the earth is round can be proven. You cannot prove there is no God.

On October 12 2008 11:39 evandi wrote:


I am not stupid as hell. I just said initially that it was sad that Palin was considered the stupid one. How is that Partisan?

You have tried to call me stupid many times and then you get proven wrong.

These things are facts. It is you who has had absolutely nothing of substance with which to reply.

You're only attacking me because it's popular and you want to be popular to.

On October 12 2008 11:42 aRod wrote:
Evandi

let me give you a tip, try not posting rampantly if you want people to take you seriously. You mimick a troll this way.

Let me respond to a few of your misperceptions.

Evandi says: "She said she wanted alternative views to be presented. You're just assuming she would have put it in public schools by itself."

No you're wrong. Show me some courtesy and stop assuming I'm assuming. It's really annoying how stupid you are. She has been qouted multiple times saying "TEACH BOTH." I can qoute her gubernatorial interview for this. It's only later in her campaign did she stop advocating creationism.

Evandi says: "How do you know what she was going to college for originally? How do you know she didn't change her major? You have no idea, you just assume. She switched colleges a lot. Who knows why? You don't, you just assume."

We'll actually I know her original major... It was journalism. Again stop being a presumptuous asshole. It still took her 6 years and 5 different colleges. I haven't met anyone I respect who's spent more than 5 years in undergrad for ONE degree.

Evandi says: "Well, thats part of some Christian branches doctrines. I suppose she should just call herself a Christian and just make up what she believes right?"

Yeah... I guess I should believe everything the bible says if I'm a christain.

"4. Two words, "Couric Interview.""

Evandi says: "Ya, but the edited it as harshly as possible. She had been in many interviews before becoming VP without looking bad at all. She also looked well in the Gubernatorial debate."

This is hillarious, she has done two interviews outside of FOX. They won't even risk her on Bill O. You actually think the unequestioned rants FOX lets her go are legitimate interviews? I hope you're not this stupid.

Evandi" She said it wasn't certain. That is all. You are making this up.

You have the facts wrong again. As late as 2006 she has said referring to global warming "I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made." She has also said "The cause of global warming doesn't mater." She has come around on this reality though with statements like "the debate on this issue have changed"

On October 12 2008 11:47 XoXiDe wrote:


you can't prove their is. and I don't presume to know. and whether god exists or not doesn't change the fact that creationism is RETARDED.

On October 12 2008 11:57 ahrara_ wrote:

I stuck up for you earlier when I first read your posts. Then I started seeing a pattern in your posts where you focus on trivial bullshit and generally dilute the quality of the thread. That's when I started getting annoyed. Moreover, you have never demonstrated a grasp of foreign or domestic policy beyond skewed interpretations from partisan pundits. Not that talking points are necessarily wrong, but you clearly don't have the resources to back up those talking points. Your conclusions are shallow and transparent. You're just a culture warrior way out of your league here. Start reading up on the issues, or just stop posting.

Bottom Line: I really don't want to read about who said what when and where, god dammit, I want to hear about the mother fucking issues and your retarded trolling is getting in the way of that.

On October 12 2008 12:03 evandi wrote:
No, I just made this ONE little claim: That it is sad that Palin is considered dumber than Biden.

On October 12 2008 12:10 ahrara_ wrote:
You know what, let's settle it this way, Evandi. If you're not just a partisan shithole who rationalizes his candidate's views, then I'm sure you have strongly held opinions on a lot of important issues. I'd like hear what they are, and your reasons why. If you can answer these questions in an intelligent and cogent manner, I take back what I said and promise to kiss your ass every time you post, a privilege I currently reserve only for Moltke.

1.) How do we guarantee political stability in Iraq while allowing U.S. troops to withdraw?

2.) What can be done to fix the credit crisis?

3.) How should we approach our relationship with Russia to best enhance our national interest?

4.) Is universal health care a natural right? If so, how do we implement it?

I mean you don't have to do them all. If you can just show a smidgen of intelligence in response to any of these I'll be content.

On October 12 2008 12:11 Boblion wrote:

Evandi you are really on fire :>

On October 12 2008 12:10 XoXiDe wrote:
this made me laugh



anyway, there's plenty of people who believe in "a" god who aren't creationist. This shouldn't turn into a god exists or doesn't exists discussion, but as for my own beliefs, I definitely don't believe in any written fairy tales like the bible, but I don't presume to have any certainty that there is a god or isn't. If I have any kind of "faith" it's in science.

On October 12 2008 12:03 evandi wrote:


No, I just made this ONE little claim: That it is sad that Palin is considered dumber than Biden.

You want me to drift away from that? What do you want me to do? I made a point, others attacked me, so I defended my point.

You seem to lack the resources to show me where I'm wrong. If I wrote about Obama supporters the way you are writing about me I would be banned.

No you made more than one claim.

Do you think I give a shit???

No, I don't lack the resources. It's you that has no clue about what is going on.

On October 12 2008 12:19 evandi wrote:


I don't have to answer to you and this is quite ridiculous, but here is the truth.

1.) No one knows. In fact know one even knows that it is possible. Neither do you.
2.) I'm not an expert on economics. Most people aren't. The only people who predicted this are saying to do nothing, but the people who said everything would be fine over and over again are in charge.
3.) Personally I think we should stop treating them as harshly as we do, but they do have some issues that need to be addressed, like freedom of speech. I would prefer them any day to China.
4.) How on earth could it be a right? Is food a right? How absurd.

Oh, I await thine blessing.

On October 12 2008 12:20 evandi wrote:


Well, I mean I just made this one little claim this time. Thats what I meant to imply. In fact both "sessions" I've been involved in has started with me making one or two claims and then defending myself.

On October 12 2008 12:23 ahrara_ wrote:

I have flamed many-an-Obama supporter here and anywhere else plenty of times and never been banned. There is a fundamental difference between how you support Palin and more intelligent posters do it. You're a victim of the "travis fallacy" wherein you just post claims without never backing yourself up with reason. This is what my post would look like if I posted like you:


You use rhetorical questions to keep from being held responsible for an advocacy you make. You focus on nitpicky pointless shit like the debate about who-said-what that's been going on for the past two pages. None of that says ANYTHING about Biden's intelligence or Palin's. It is fucking stupid and strictly the domain of people who have no clue about anything except through watching debates and interviews.

I will readily admit I can't pull quotations out of my ass to argue with you. But I can tell you that Biden is chairman of the committee on foreign relations, that he's met with Mikhael Saakashivilli and many other world leaders, that he was a political science major, that he's often introduced policy proposals of his own with regards to domestic and foreign policy, and that he's never been reduced to jargon salad trying to answer a question about anything. It is fucking retarded for you, just as it would be fucking retarded for me, to claim that Biden is unintelligent because he misspoke or made a few false claims. If Biden were completely UNABLE to answer a question about, i.e., the bailout, that would be a different thing altogether. On the other hand, I can tell you that Palin was a communications major in college, that until she ran for governor she had never studied economics or international relations, that she has absolutely no clue what the bailout does or whether it's any good, that she has genuinely claimed before she was selected as VP that she didnt' know what the VP does, and that she has no experience of leadership at the national level, much less at the international level. Are you fucking happy?

On October 12 2008 12:34 ahrara_ wrote:

Why would you believe something if you don't have the reasoning to back it up?