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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
January 20 2008 01:24 GMT
#61
It would be awesome for him if he didn't lose by 40 percent to Romney.

In other news, McCain leads in SC voting 36 to 28 percent for Huckabee. Thompson and Romney are back at 15, making this a 2 horse race. No network has called the vote for McCain yet, but I think they may soon.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
January 20 2008 02:22 GMT
#62
mccain wins south carolina
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
January 20 2008 02:34 GMT
#63
All the major networks have projected McCain to win SC. With McCain already leading in Florida before the vote in SC, I think he's the clear frontrunner.

Hunter officially dropped out, and Thompson can't be far behind.
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mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
January 20 2008 04:03 GMT
#64
On January 20 2008 06:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah I have a feeling it will be a Clinton vs Romney ticket, unless something drastic happens on Super Tuesday or something.


And fucking Edwards needs to drop out and endorse Obama already, douche bag.


Romney is polling third nationally....its more like McCain atm.
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 20 2008 04:08 GMT
#65
On January 20 2008 13:03 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2008 06:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah I have a feeling it will be a Clinton vs Romney ticket, unless something drastic happens on Super Tuesday or something.


And fucking Edwards needs to drop out and endorse Obama already, douche bag.


Romney is polling third nationally....its more like McCain atm.


Which can be good or bad, depending on how one looks at it. The Democrats would rather have a Romney vs Hillary ticket than vs McCain ticket. And polling shows McCain has better chances against Hilary.

Polling shows McCain by 4%
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 20 2008 04:17 GMT
#66
personally i think McCain is the least hawkish republican candidate.

on the other hand i think hillary is more hawkish than obama.
...from the land of imba
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
January 20 2008 04:17 GMT
#67
how is mccain the least hawkish? he's a HUGE supporter of the iraq war
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 20 2008 04:33 GMT
#68
d'oh... i thought he was huge against lol. wrong guy?
...from the land of imba
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 20 2008 04:34 GMT
#69
On January 20 2008 13:17 a-game wrote:
how is mccain the least hawkish? he's a HUGE supporter of the iraq war


As opposed to Hillary who will change her stance on pretty much anything?
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-20 05:13:14
January 20 2008 05:04 GMT
#70
McCain was for "The Surge" before Bush was. He's at least as much of a hawk as Bush on foreign policy.

McCain does have electability as a strong suit. In both his wins in NH and SC he didn't win the biggest piece of registered republicans. He got his fair share, but got big margins among independent voters which put him over the top. The polls I've looked at indicate McCain is beating Clinton in a head to head matchup by a few points and is tied or slightly behind (within margin of error) to Obama.
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mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
January 20 2008 06:06 GMT
#71
Obama wins Nevada.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=272881

"This is a race for delegates...It is not a battle for individual states."

-- Hillary Clinton campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 20 2008 06:13 GMT
#72
i have to say obama is doing alot better than expected. kudos to obama
...from the land of imba
CharMaster
Profile Joined November 2006
29 Posts
January 20 2008 06:30 GMT
#73
On January 20 2008 03:51 BlackStar wrote:
Liberal almost means the opposite in the US of what it means in the rest of the world.

You can almost say:

US - World
Libertarian - Liberal
Liberal - Socialist
Socialist - Communist
Communist - Terrorist

Ok, kind of satire. But there is a point behind this. Language has changed meaning in an Orwellian sense.


Mmm, any one care to let this kid know the differnce between Libertarian and a Democrat (liberal)



Perfect example why you and other non Americans should learn before you even consider letting your opinion known.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
January 20 2008 06:44 GMT
#74
On January 20 2008 15:06 mindspike wrote:
Obama wins Nevada.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=272881

"This is a race for delegates...It is not a battle for individual states."

-- Hillary Clinton campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson

well delegates don't matter unless it reaches a convention

and if obama does somehow draw this into a delegate battle, he'll have to bite into a chunk of clinton's lion's share of superdelegates
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Foo Magoo
Profile Joined April 2007
102 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-20 09:22:45
January 20 2008 09:02 GMT
#75
On January 20 2008 15:30 CharMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2008 03:51 BlackStar wrote:
Liberal almost means the opposite in the US of what it means in the rest of the world.

You can almost say:

US - World
Libertarian - Liberal
Liberal - Socialist
Socialist - Communist
Communist - Terrorist

Ok, kind of satire. But there is a point behind this. Language has changed meaning in an Orwellian sense.


Mmm, any one care to let this kid know the differnce between Libertarian and a Democrat (liberal)



Perfect example why you and other non Americans should learn before you even consider letting your opinion known.


Wow, you proved his point exactly. Go look up the "true" definition of liberalism.

From Wikipedia:


Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.


Sounds like what you would call libertarianism, huh?

edit: Wait, I think you were joking...
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-20 09:19:25
January 20 2008 09:17 GMT
#76
On January 20 2008 08:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Trust me all the iceberg has to do is shed a few tears and maybe kiss a few BLACK babies or two and the votes will run in. It amazes me voters haven't figured out her agenda, she says whatever will get her votes. It wasn't even "change" until she lost Iowa now its' "change" this and "change" that. McCain would be the only thing stopping another Clinton in the White House. All this country needs is a god damn dynasty of Clinton's and Bushes. After Hilary; Jeb Bush will run, just watch.

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And as for Edwards, he cost Obama NH, had he dropped or cast his support to Obama earlier, he might have secured NH. But being the child that Edwards seems to hang on like, he wouldn't dare. I'd be surprised if Edwards dropped his bid before Super Tuesday.

Ok genius, what is her agenda exactly? To win the presidency? Wow what a freaking shocker. All politicians base there platform on what they believe the people want, because they are REPRESENTATIVES of the peoples voice.

I'm an obama supporter, but your mindless rants just make you look like an idiot.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
January 20 2008 09:29 GMT
#77
On January 20 2008 15:06 mindspike wrote:
Obama wins Nevada.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=272881

"This is a race for delegates...It is not a battle for individual states."

-- Hillary Clinton campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson

hmm, looks like you had a bit of a point

By eking out 13 delegates to Clinton's 12, Obama was able to salvage a foothold in the race and keep Clinton from claiming a full dose of momentum. -AP
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 20 2008 09:37 GMT
#78
Senator's get butchered on their record in general elections. There hasn't been a sitting Senator elected President since Kennedy. It's so much easier to go in as a Governor where you can say you have executive experience and don't have as much history of your position on sensitive issues to attack. McCain vs Hillary would be interesting..
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-20 11:38:42
January 20 2008 11:38 GMT
#79
If Clinton becomes the new president then the Bush/Clinton families will have ruled the US for a total of atleast 24 years, maybe 28 ;D
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 20 2008 11:39 GMT
#80
Shouldn't parties select people for the election based on their abilities and not on their popularity? : [
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