EPTBTW if Hilary wins, Edwards will be partially blamed for pulling Obama votes.
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
BTW if Hilary wins, Edwards will be partially blamed for pulling Obama votes. | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
Ah maybe you're right I haven't really tried to look up the candidates on youtube but I guess they are easy to find there. Then the question is rather if people look it up or not. Yeah, I think so too. In a random swedish newspaper there would probably be huge bias towards Hillary and Obama, btw I like them both alot too just FYI (Hillary a bit more though). I think you also have to have in mind the differences between our cultures and that there are alot of christian people in American compared to here and many republican candidates opinions make huge sense to these people. Although not all republicans are christian and democrats are certainly not atheists. Nah, some republicans want USA out of Iraq as well but yeah democrats I guess are more diplomatic in general and don't want conflicts. Then again this is about whether or not attacking Iraq was good or bad in the first place. Yeah that's my point. Ron Paul is also a republican, but people who normally think republicans are "religious fanatics and love guns" like Ron Paul. People believe so much stuff they don't actually know themselves, it's just some picture they have. Alright, well I kind of like John Edwards although like some other poster said he isn't as big as Hillary/Obama | ||
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fanatacist
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QuanticHawk
United States32075 Posts
On January 20 2008 00:58 JensOfSweden wrote: ParasitJonte: So you're saying Ron Paul sucks too or is he ok (although he is republican)? Everyone seems to like him. There are other candidates for the democratic party besides Hillary and Obama, ever heard of for example John Edwards? Chances are you haven't bothered to check which makes your opinion very mainstream and well you really don't have an opinion of your own. Rather it's mainstream media which has given you the only "viable" candidates according to their "westernized" view of the world. It's not like all republicans want war and democrats don't. If that's what you're saying you really don't have a clue. Well the things is alot of media in europe is biased towards the democrats, giving them much more space and especially Hillary and Obama. My point is that it gets too simplified and stupid, so you have to find information yourself in order to make a fair judgement. It may just be more like Edwards is just dead last and really not even a threat at this point. Therefore, people don't really care too much about him. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
About the difference in culture; that's pretty much why I watch the republican side mostly; while I try to keep an open mind I guess it's hard to avoid a sort of inherent bias received from growing up in Sweden (because let's face it; anyone saying this: in Sweden would be ruined in regards to a political career... forever =o). | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
now his market value at intrade has plummeted.. it's starting to look like a Clinton ticket for the democrats. which isn't so bad i guess except i was pretty excited about obama. i have my suspicions about clinton, she's visited the bilderberg group [1] and the other day bill was talking about making a "more perfect union, not only here but across the world" which makes me think they are apart of the NWO :/ | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
On January 20 2008 01:41 Hawk wrote: It may just be more like Edwards is just dead last and really not even a threat at this point. Therefore, people don't really care too much about him. Yeah I know. I don't know too much about the current polls but I know he is pretty much behind Hillary/Obama edit: Omg...Megan Fox | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32075 Posts
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Jathin
United States3505 Posts
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
On January 20 2008 01:43 ParasitJonte wrote: Well yeah, I can agree to everything in your last post. About the difference in culture; that's pretty much why I watch the republican side mostly; while I try to keep an open mind I guess it's hard to avoid a sort of inherent bias received from growing up in Sweden (because let's face it; anyone saying this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLkwWabu4gA in Sweden would be ruined in regards to a political career... forever =o). Yeah, although we are pretty much like America, although less individualistic and more socialist those religious rants would certainly not go well here in Sweden in general (with ALOT of exceptions of course, try the "bibel-belt" of Jönköping and Småland). I think I've read that we are one of the most secularized countries in the world though so who are we to judge the entire world? The reason I am trying to be so open minded and the reason I'm interested in culture etc is because I'm a sociology major and sometimes I think it's rather a curse because it's quite blissful to live in ignorance and not looking further than the tip of your nose. | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
On January 20 2008 02:22 Hawk wrote: Can someone summarize the video please? my net is being retarded this morning and it's taking real long to load. What's the regan comments Basically Huckabee is saying "we need to amend the constitution so it's in god's standards" (Which I would obviously want too if I had that kind of faith) | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
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doc.x
94 Posts
On January 19 2008 19:12 GTR-2-Go wrote: not to sound like a poltics noob but what are primaries? | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
You can almost say: US - World Libertarian - Liberal Liberal - Socialist Socialist - Communist Communist - Terrorist Ok, kind of satire. But there is a point behind this. Language has changed meaning in an Orwellian sense. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On January 19 2008 20:28 JensOfSweden wrote: If I hear more european people rooting for either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton I'm gonna be sick. They (we) don't have a clue about the other candidates and it's just a huge bandwagon. Oh and I bet Ron Paul is big in certain countries like Holland, too Go Obama! It's stupid to say no European has a clue about the candidates, I watched a lot of interviews and debates, and I dare say I even have a better clue than a few Americans. I think Obama is my fav candidate; not really the politics I'd like to have but the best possible step in the right direction. Edwards would be ok for me too. Doesn't matter much though since I can't vote  | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On January 20 2008 03:51 BlackStar wrote: Liberal almost means the opposite in the US of what it means in the rest of the world. You can almost say: US - World Libertarian - Liberal Liberal - Socialist Socialist - Communist Communist - Terrorist Ok, kind of satire. But there is a point behind this. Language has changed meaning in an Orwellian sense. In a related news, a survey reported that the world believes George W Bush pose the greatest danger to World Peace after Osama Bin Laden. Kim Jong Il of North Korea placed third and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran placed forth. Therefore, to add onto the list above, Terrorist - US | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32075 Posts
On January 20 2008 03:55 jtan wrote: Go Obama! It's stupid to say no European has a clue about the candidates, I watched a lot of interviews and debates, and I dare say I even have a better clue than a few Americans. I wouldnt doubt it. We have a lot of fuckin dolts here, as well as people who vote on party lines or racial lines exclusively. Peoiple suck. | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
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