• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:51
CEST 12:51
KST 19:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon84Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
[D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7122 users

2008 US Presidential Election - Page 6

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 88 Next
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 22 2008 04:57 GMT
#101
Can anyone else believe what hillary was saying during the cnn debates?

wow
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2008 20:02 GMT
#102
Fred Thompson is out.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
January 22 2008 20:23 GMT
#103
On January 22 2008 13:57 fusionsdf wrote:
Can anyone else believe what hillary was saying during the cnn debates?

wow



Didn't catch it, what happened??
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
January 23 2008 08:29 GMT
#104
On January 23 2008 05:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fred Thompson is out.

about time haha
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 12:15:52
January 23 2008 12:14 GMT
#105
this article matches exactly what i've been thinking the last few weeks. the clinton's love the fact that this has become a racially charged nomination, and it also reinforces my opinion that losing nevada was at the same time, losing the nomination for obama

http://thehill.com/dick-morris/how-clinton-will-win-the-nomination-by-losing-s.c.-2008-01-23.html

+ Show Spoiler [article] +


How Clinton will win the nomination by losing S.C.

Hillary Clinton will undoubtedly lose the South Carolina primary as African-Americans line up to vote for Barack Obama. And that defeat will power her drive to the nomination.

The Clintons are encouraging the national media to disregard the whites who vote in South Carolina’s Democratic primary and focus on the black turnout, which is expected to be quite large. They have transformed South Carolina into Washington, D.C. — an all-black primary that tells us how the African-American vote is going to go.

By saying he will go door to door in black neighborhoods in South Carolina matching his civil rights record against Obama’s, Bill Clinton emphasizes the pivotal role the black vote will play in the contest. And by openly matching his record on race with that of the black candidate, he invites more and more scrutiny focused on the race issue.

Of course, Clinton is going to lose that battle. Blacks in Nevada overwhelmingly backed Obama and will obviously do so again in South Carolina, no matter how loudly former President Clinton protests. So why is he making such a fuss over a contest he knows he’s going to lose?

Precisely because he is going to lose it. If Hillary loses South Carolina and the defeat serves to demonstrate Obama’s ability to attract a bloc vote among black Democrats, the message will go out loud and clear to white voters that this is a racial fight. It’s one thing for polls to show, as they now do, that Obama beats Hillary among African-Americans by better than 4-to-1 and Hillary carries whites by almost 2-to-1. But most people don’t read the fine print on the polls. But if blacks deliver South Carolina to Obama, everybody will know that they are bloc-voting. That will trigger a massive white backlash against Obama and will drive white voters to Hillary Clinton.

Obama has done everything he possibly could to keep race out of this election. And the Clintons attracted national scorn when they tried to bring it back in by attempting to minimize the role Martin Luther King Jr. played in the civil rights movement. But here they have a way of appearing to seek the black vote, losing it, and getting their white backlash, all without any fingerprints showing. The more President Clinton begs black voters to back his wife, and the more they spurn her, the more the election becomes about race — and Obama ultimately loses.

Because they have such plans for South Carolina, the Clintons were desperate to win in Nevada. They dared not lose two primaries in a row leading up to Florida. But now they can lose South Carolina with impunity, having won in Nevada.

But don’t look for them to walk away from South Carolina. Their love needs to appear to have been unrequited by the black community for their rejection to seem so unfair that it triggers a white backlash. In this kind of ricochet politics, you have to lose openly and publicly in order to win the next round. And since the next round consists of all the important and big states, polarizing the contest into whites versus blacks will work just fine for Hillary.

Of course, this begs the question of how she will be able to attract blacks after beating Obama. Here the South Carolina strategy also serves its purpose. If she loses blacks and wins whites by attacking Obama, it will look dirty and underhanded to blacks. She’ll develop a real problem in the minority community. But if she is seen as being rejected by minority voters in favor of Obama after going hat in hand to them and trying to out-civil rights Obama, blacks will even likely feel guilty about rejecting Hillary and will be more than willing to support her in the general election.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
January 23 2008 12:27 GMT
#106
I'm just rooting for Clinton in the hope that Bill rules through her as his dickpuppet!

Rawrr!!
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
January 23 2008 12:28 GMT
#107
i think someone for next halloween should get a suit and some claws and go as "Baraka Obama"
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 23 2008 16:11 GMT
#108
i prefer someone dressed up as a white house intern with a sign that says "do me"
...from the land of imba
Tusk
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada427 Posts
January 23 2008 16:39 GMT
#109
On January 23 2008 17:29 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 05:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fred Thompson is out.

about time haha



Too bad.


Would have been nice to have had a hot first lady.

BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 23 2008 17:26 GMT
#110
Dennis Kucinich is still in

[image loading]
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 23 2008 18:30 GMT
#111
is that his wife or his granddaughter?
...from the land of imba
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
January 23 2008 19:09 GMT
#112
The Republican field is narrowing sharply after South Carolina. Thompson and Hunter are both out officially. Huckabee is no longer in the first tier since he has shown no ability to reach outside purely evangelicals. He will try to compete in some southern states and might win some delegates but he'll never have a majority. At best he can get VP now. Giuliani's strategy to skip everything and lose to even Ron Paul in the early primaries has hurt his only chance of a win in Florida. The latest Rasmussen poll I saw for Florida had him in 3rd. Florida is to Giuliani as SC was to Thompson, without it he has nowhere to go.

That leaves Romney and McCain as the two likeliest Republican candidates. Polls in hypothetical head to head matchups say McCain would be the stronger, but if the economy is the biggest issue in '08 Romney's experience in business might be big.
日本語が分かりますか
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 21:43:58
January 23 2008 20:56 GMT
#113
you know hillary's pretty much become the dem front runner, i'm a bit curious as to why the republicans haven't addressed her much.

they haven't really been using her and saying "i'm the one that can beat her" etc etc. i guess we might see some of that starting with the florida debate

edit: wow florida is looking a little closer these days

current prediction market percentages:
John McCain 46.0
Mitt Romney 42.5

edit2: wow ron paul has received over a hundred thousand votes so far, you really have to wonder how much of those votes would have gone to obama
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
January 25 2008 11:50 GMT
#114
intrade currently widely predicts romney winning florida. that would set the republican race back at 0 kind of eh
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
January 25 2008 18:57 GMT
#115
Kunicich is out, he might not even win re-election in his congressional district
he has bigger things to worry about than a long shot at the presidency
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
January 25 2008 19:14 GMT
#116
That's because Kucinich is a tree hugging liberal, way to radical for his own sake.

On topic, I feel worried that Hillary will lose the black vote in the general election and make either romney or McCain the new president, thus keeping us in Iraq for 100 years...
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
January 25 2008 19:16 GMT
#117
On January 24 2008 05:56 a-game wrote:


edit2: wow ron paul has received over a hundred thousand votes so far, you really have to wonder how much of those votes would have gone to obama


what makes you think they woulda gone to obama? he is running on the republican ticket, correct?
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 25 2008 19:28 GMT
#118
Some of the primaries are open and independents can vote.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
January 25 2008 20:00 GMT
#119
Yeah, I know that Klogon, but what I'm saying is what makes you think that those votes are necessarily getting sucked away from Obama and not some republican guy? Paul is on their ticket and definitely has a lot of conservative views
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
January 25 2008 22:41 GMT
#120
On January 24 2008 02:26 BlackJack wrote:
Dennis Kucinich is still in

[image loading]

i thought he was out ooa
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 88 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16, Group C
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
Afreeca ASL 13871
StarCastTV_EN328
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47810
Calm 11719
Bisu 4655
Jaedong 3196
Shuttle 1497
Leta 639
BeSt 576
Horang2 485
Pusan 415
Rush 389
[ Show more ]
Soma 264
Larva 241
Hyun 231
ZerO 204
Stork 150
Noble 95
Dewaltoss 79
ToSsGirL 62
Sharp 57
Killer 51
Barracks 42
Sexy 35
Aegong 34
sSak 30
Sacsri 28
sorry 24
Bale 23
Terrorterran 23
HiyA 21
soO 19
zelot 15
JulyZerg 15
SilentControl 12
Hm[arnc] 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1626
shoxiejesuss862
zeus751
byalli0
Other Games
Grubby7299
singsing1208
Pyrionflax246
Lowko241
Mew2King24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick934
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 276
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 58
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt836
Other Games
• WagamamaTV245
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
9m
Rex39
WardiTV29
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 9m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 9m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.