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happday
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
12 Posts
August 01 2007 20:21 GMT
#1
Anyone herad of network marketing?
I heard some say its a fraud, while some say its a growing market that helps people to money.
Those who do not cheat are not trying their best
teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
August 01 2007 20:21 GMT
#2
Is it like Vector Marketing?
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
eugene17
Profile Joined June 2006
Singapore174 Posts
August 01 2007 20:32 GMT
#3
you need to know people who are willing to buy overpriced shit. wiki!
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 18:30:01
February 03 2009 18:26 GMT
#4
In theory its a really amazing system to help everyday people start their own business and become financially free.

In practice, the general population is NOT open to the idea and wrongly assumes that it is a pyramid scheme. That's why you need to be an exceptional salesman to succeed. I have been part of the best network marketing company for about a year before realizing that i had the motivation and the intelligence required but i simply did not have the sales skills. I still have the password to one of the world's top producer online report summary. He's making roughly 50k per month. The success rate right now stands at 0.3%. Meaning that 99.7% of those who get involved will never generate enough income to justify their efforts and time investment. It's really sad because it's a really amazing system when you think about it...but like i said..it's all theory. In practice, the population just doesn't cooperate. That's why pretty much no one is financially free in the world.

However, I'm glad to be a stock market genius. Otherwise my network marketing 'failure' would have been really really hard on my mind.

Btw, one of the best network marketers in the world was in the same company as me and he was a 24 year-old korean-american making about 100k per month. He could pretty much be Starcrafting all day without worrying about ANYTHING and pretty much living a life of luxury...ahhhhhh.....Destiny.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 03 2009 18:39 GMT
#5
Isn't that like those bogus 46homeworker (and other variations thereof) commercials that are completely identical but are all different sites?
Chains none
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 18:49:22
February 03 2009 18:48 GMT
#6
probably not....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_marketing
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
February 03 2009 18:52 GMT
#7
On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote: In practice, the population just doesn't cooperate. That's why pretty much no one is financially free in the world.


So it is a magic moneyfountain that can make anyone rich. Admit it's a scam. There might be a product attached to it but it's not the core.

The terms douche/sleaze-bag came to the top of my mind.
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
February 03 2009 19:21 GMT
#8
On February 04 2009 03:52 KaasZerg wrote:
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On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote: In practice, the population just doesn't cooperate. That's why pretty much no one is financially free in the world.


So it is a magic moneyfountain that can make anyone rich. Admit it's a scam. There might be a product attached to it but it's not the core.



The company i was operating in was offering services competing in a global market accounting for one trillion dollars annually. And now it's much more ever since they expanded their range of services. So yes, it's the core.

On February 04 2009 03:52 KaasZerg wrote:

The terms douche/sleaze-bag came to the top of my mind.


Well, you're just part of the 99.7% that don't cooperate.. It's not like i'm surprised or anything. I won't cry about it.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
February 03 2009 19:58 GMT
#9
Flashy, which company were you operating in?

+ Show Spoiler +
At least three clues in your message and sig point to Amway, but I might be wrong. I'm guessing the network marketing jargon is pretty widely borrowed by different companies"
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20031 Posts
February 03 2009 20:00 GMT
#10
Thanks for the over a year old bump so you could brag about how fucking cool and rich and successful you are.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 20:05:34
February 03 2009 20:04 GMT
#11
Unnecessary bump, but Flashy's post is informative/at least honestly accurate (about the subject).
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 20:09:42
February 03 2009 20:06 GMT
#12
On February 04 2009 05:00 decafchicken wrote:
Thanks for the over a year old bump so you could brag about how fucking cool and rich and successful you are.


In before Flashy calls you one of the 99.7%.
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 20:45:30
February 03 2009 20:44 GMT
#13
Wow, what a lame bump.

Technically these are not all pyramid schemes, but since you probably make more money the more people you recruit (using such transparent tactics as Flash) they are indeed pyramid schemes.

Ultimately, if you make (lol, 100k per month) playing SC without constantly doing any real work then you must be just feeding off of the 99.7% that are below you ;p
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 21:15:00
February 03 2009 21:13 GMT
#14
On February 04 2009 05:00 decafchicken wrote:
Thanks for the over a year old bump so you could brag about how fucking cool and rich and successful you are.



you misunderstood something.


On February 04 2009 05:04 PanoRaMa wrote:
Unnecessary bump, but Flashy's post is informative/at least honestly accurate (about the subject).



A bit contradictory... if i bring something new and informative to the topic, fresh raw numbers, how can it be an unnecessary bump? I was going to start a new thread about Network marketing but i did a little search and found that something was already out there.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
February 03 2009 21:35 GMT
#15
On February 04 2009 06:13 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 05:00 decafchicken wrote:
Thanks for the over a year old bump so you could brag about how fucking cool and rich and successful you are.



you misunderstood something.


Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 05:04 PanoRaMa wrote:
Unnecessary bump, but Flashy's post is informative/at least honestly accurate (about the subject).



A bit contradictory... if i bring something new and informative to the topic, fresh raw numbers, how can it be an unnecessary bump? I was going to start a new thread about Network marketing but i did a little search and found that something was already out there.


C'mon Flashy. Tell us which network marketing company you were in. If you won't, that's another clue for Amway. Extreme vagueness in the face of direct questions.
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 03 2009 21:48 GMT
#16
On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Btw, one of the best network marketers in the world was in the same company as me and he was a 24 year-old korean-american making about 100k per month. He could pretty much be Starcrafting all day without worrying about ANYTHING and pretty much living a life of luxury...ahhhhhh.....Destiny.


There are at least a dozen people on Liquid Poker that can claim that too, and they probably feel better about themselves than a marketer.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
February 03 2009 21:59 GMT
#17
On February 04 2009 06:13 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 05:00 decafchicken wrote:
Thanks for the over a year old bump so you could brag about how fucking cool and rich and successful you are.



you misunderstood something.


Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 05:04 PanoRaMa wrote:
Unnecessary bump, but Flashy's post is informative/at least honestly accurate (about the subject).



A bit contradictory... if i bring something new and informative to the topic, fresh raw numbers, how can it be an unnecessary bump? I was going to start a new thread about Network marketing but i did a little search and found that something was already out there.


Because no one has expressed any interest in the topic in over a year.
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
February 03 2009 22:06 GMT
#18
On February 04 2009 06:48 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Btw, one of the best network marketers in the world was in the same company as me and he was a 24 year-old korean-american making about 100k per month. He could pretty much be Starcrafting all day without worrying about ANYTHING and pretty much living a life of luxury...ahhhhhh.....Destiny.


There are at least a dozen people on Liquid Poker that can claim that too, and they probably feel better about themselves than a marketer.


i'd revise the number down. + you can lose money at poker. i found out that the korean dude i was talking about just got promoted to the highest position. he'll be making a million a month by 2010.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
Kerensky
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
148 Posts
February 03 2009 22:11 GMT
#19
eh well i enjoyed the bump and explanations, if you didn't then i guess u cud always click the back button (or maybe actually read them before commenting)
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
February 03 2009 22:14 GMT
#20
On February 04 2009 07:06 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 06:48 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Btw, one of the best network marketers in the world was in the same company as me and he was a 24 year-old korean-american making about 100k per month. He could pretty much be Starcrafting all day without worrying about ANYTHING and pretty much living a life of luxury...ahhhhhh.....Destiny.


There are at least a dozen people on Liquid Poker that can claim that too, and they probably feel better about themselves than a marketer.


i'd revise the number down. + you can lose money at poker. i found out that the korean dude i was talking about just got promoted to the highest position. he'll be making a million a month by 2010.


Is this Korean dude's name a secret? Why the reluctance to say which business you're talking about?
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
February 03 2009 22:15 GMT
#21
hum...for the record. thirtyone, i PMed you the name of the company about 45 mins ago.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
February 03 2009 22:22 GMT
#22
Wow, my first PM! So I was wrong about it being Amway. Funny how even though I've never heard of this particular business, it feels so familiar...
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20031 Posts
February 03 2009 23:50 GMT
#23
On February 04 2009 07:06 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 06:48 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On February 04 2009 03:26 TheFlashyOne wrote:
Btw, one of the best network marketers in the world was in the same company as me and he was a 24 year-old korean-american making about 100k per month. He could pretty much be Starcrafting all day without worrying about ANYTHING and pretty much living a life of luxury...ahhhhhh.....Destiny.


There are at least a dozen people on Liquid Poker that can claim that too, and they probably feel better about themselves than a marketer.


i'd revise the number down. + you can lose money at poker. i found out that the korean dude i was talking about just got promoted to the highest position. he'll be making a million a month by 2010.


Man i wish i knew someone i won't name for a company i wont name thats making tons of money. Can i be your friend?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
February 03 2009 23:50 GMT
#24
Yeah it's not like it's possible that there could actually be rich people at the same company as him.
But why?
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
February 04 2009 00:04 GMT
#25
Decafchicken is known for making insightful posts.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
February 04 2009 00:08 GMT
#26
is this the same thing as a pyramid scheme?
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
February 04 2009 00:42 GMT
#27
why the need to PM and not tell everyone what company you were with?

Anyway, I fail to see how this is like a pyramid scheme.. care to elaborate?
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
February 04 2009 01:30 GMT
#28
On February 04 2009 09:42 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
why the need to PM and not tell everyone what company you were with?

Anyway, I fail to see how this is like a pyramid scheme.. care to elaborate?


Because when you run a pyramid scheme, you don't call it a pyramid scheme. You call it "multi-level marketing" or "network marketing".
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
February 04 2009 04:07 GMT
#29
And that's why the success rate is so low. The masses are bashing a legitimate system that could actually get them out of their daily misery. I'm really glad i found something else that works for me but believe me, real opportunities are extremely rare so it's ill-advised to bash one when you encounter one. Not being open minded is very expensive in the long run.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
February 04 2009 04:24 GMT
#30
http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome.html

This is very illuminating and informs you about the terminology.

Yes you can indeed make a lot of money. And as Flashy says, the vast majority of people don't. But I don't know if it's because they're not "open minded". They lose a lot of money in these companies because the company keeps repeating the "you can get rich mantra".

Maybe Flashy's company is different, but I've personally seen someone sucked into Amway and Quixtar, and the previous link points at Herbalife as being a particularly insidious MLM company
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
February 04 2009 04:30 GMT
#31
Are you serious -_-
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