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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
November 10 2018 17:27 GMT
#10101
Damn
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 10 2018 18:06 GMT
#10102
Persistence on saying you’re wrong
About a video game
On the internet
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
koionvf
Profile Joined November 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-11-10 20:59:58
November 10 2018 20:57 GMT
#10103
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 11 2018 01:29 GMT
#10104
On November 11 2018 01:17 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2018 00:40 Noocta wrote:
Finding a guild for Cutting Edge progress that doesn't ask for too much raid time but still clears pretty fast so you're not stuck being in progress all the time is probably one of the toughest thing about raiding that level.

There's a reason we get so many applys in our top100 4 nights only guild.


4 nights is already too much for most people though. Granted you are in progress mode much shorter and actually might end up playing overall less.

Back when we went 7 days post release and raced for top 30-40 wewould be done in 3 odd weeks and then turn into raid loggers, but then you played ALOT those 3-4 weeks and essentially stopped doing everything else. But then you had stuff like Mu'ru that was just so brutal.

+ Show Spoiler [personal experience] +
I think the schedule my legion guild was on (and i still have alts sitting there) is pretty healthy 3 nights world 160 something this tier and they generally float around the 100-200 range. They are all great people 0 toxicity. A fair amount, but not unlimited of patience for mistakes.

No alt requirements, + Show Spoiler +
(although there are some more active players that do maintian alts that can be useful)
if I wanted to raid and there was space available I would go straight back. But I have a very busy work/life schedule and sometimes I just came home so tired I didnt want to commit for 3-4 hours to focusing so hard and alot of people have that problem. I wasnt planning my life around it, as much as Cyro seems to think is neccessary. But the comittment was still tiring enough. But thats personal to my situation. Alot of people based on how theyre lives/schedules are can do it quite easily.


Yeah, I can understand how 4 nights is a lot for most, but for top100 world, it's on the low side. If you want Hall of Fame in France, you're either with us or raiding 6/7 nights, it's harsh.
You can get good guilds that do 3 nights in top200/500 quite often too. Less than 3 nights starts to be kinda iffy to progress Mythic tho.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
November 11 2018 10:02 GMT
#10105
Two's hard, it likely means transferring servers and extending for long periods of time when you're still missing farm gear so people need to be better
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4550 Posts
November 11 2018 10:19 GMT
#10106
My guild does 3x3 and top 1000 is not a possibility. We keep hovering around 1200.
That's mostly due to player skill too of course, not just the 3x3 schedule.

G'huun looks quite hard, I was hoping for about a month break between this tier and next, because it does wear you down after a while the constant raiding, so hopefully we can make some good progress on him and the leaders are happy to kill him once and call it quits for the tier, but I'm afraid that won't happen
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 11 2018 19:53 GMT
#10107
On November 11 2018 19:19 Laurens wrote:
My guild does 3x3 and top 1000 is not a possibility. We keep hovering around 1200.
That's mostly due to player skill too of course, not just the 3x3 schedule.

G'huun looks quite hard, I was hoping for about a month break between this tier and next, because it does wear you down after a while the constant raiding, so hopefully we can make some good progress on him and the leaders are happy to kill him once and call it quits for the tier, but I'm afraid that won't happen

My guild pretty much kills him every other week, and we do 1 night of heroic to mythrax and the rest mythic.
only raiding 3 nights a week tho
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 11 2018 20:33 GMT
#10108
So if any of you can clarify, when blizzard rolls out the demo changes, are they buffing the singular imp or the wild imps with the 25% spellpower change?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 11 2018 20:45 GMT
#10109
On November 11 2018 19:19 Laurens wrote:
My guild does 3x3 and top 1000 is not a possibility. We keep hovering around 1200.
That's mostly due to player skill too of course, not just the 3x3 schedule.

G'huun looks quite hard, I was hoping for about a month break between this tier and next, because it does wear you down after a while the constant raiding, so hopefully we can make some good progress on him and the leaders are happy to kill him once and call it quits for the tier, but I'm afraid that won't happen


Guild I got recruited to recently is currently 7/8 and were working on M ghuun with a 3x3 schedule. Should finished in the ~600-650 range with how we are progessing.

Its possible, but entirely based on how people adapt and fix mistakes. Less time means need to fix things faster.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-12 01:35:17
November 12 2018 00:39 GMT
#10110
Activision stock is falling off a cliff after that disaster of a blizzcon and earnings call.. it's was 143% of the current value last month. Sad players, sad investors
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21953 Posts
November 12 2018 13:21 GMT
#10111
Activision tanked because King reported bad numbers, lets not try to pretend Diablo did all of this.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-12 14:21:58
November 12 2018 14:15 GMT
#10112
Yeah this is more of a correction than anything else. The explosion they had last year was unreasonably sustainable. Its not just King their other stuff didnt keep the pace either.

Sure Blizzcon maybe helped tip the jar a bit but this was going to come down anyway. Since fortnight came out even your avg joe home trader has been shorting activision for months. Its been trending way too well for a few years now.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-12 19:13:01
November 12 2018 15:31 GMT
#10113
On November 12 2018 22:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Activision tanked because King reported bad numbers, lets not try to pretend Diablo did all of this.


Not just Diablo but the company in general. Out of the stuff that i'm aware of:

+ Show Spoiler +

Destiny is declining and failing to meet expectations, hasn't recovered yet from a fairly disastrous launch. They're trying to get players in and get them engaged by giving free copies of the base game to everyone so that they can go ahead and buy the $40 expansion plus microtransactions and then spread the desire to play further through word of mouth and a healthy playerbase.

Overwatch isn't seeing much further growth any more but is in the best shape of any of the other games

Diablo fiasco, but immortal $$ on the way. Non-chinese reaction was bad enough to spook investors.

COD is in decline

WoW has stagnated, in slow decline since Cataclysm. Legion mitigated the decline but BFA failed to keep that up and subs are probably a third to half of what they were this time in WOTLK.

Starcraft is doing okay, some activity and a reasonably healthy esports scene for a game of its age but it's not a big revenue driver and is going to remain in its slow decline until Starcraft 3 or some other major change which has not been announced.

Faith in Activision to make an engaging game that people want to buy into is quite low compared to previous levels at the moment for most of their game franchises which impacts their perceived value as a company.

---

They don't have much to drive sustainable growth right now; wiping out a year and a half of growth in a few weeks is a big deal.

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 12 2018 19:41 GMT
#10114
On November 13 2018 00:31 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2018 22:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Activision tanked because King reported bad numbers, lets not try to pretend Diablo did all of this.


Not just Diablo but the company in general. Out of the stuff that i'm aware of:

+ Show Spoiler +

Destiny is declining and failing to meet expectations, hasn't recovered yet from a fairly disastrous launch. They're trying to get players in and get them engaged by giving free copies of the base game to everyone so that they can go ahead and buy the $40 expansion plus microtransactions and then spread the desire to play further through word of mouth and a healthy playerbase.

Overwatch isn't seeing much further growth any more but is in the best shape of any of the other games

Diablo fiasco, but immortal $$ on the way. Non-chinese reaction was bad enough to spook investors.

COD is in decline

WoW has stagnated, in slow decline since Cataclysm. Legion mitigated the decline but BFA failed to keep that up and subs are probably a third to half of what they were this time in WOTLK.

Starcraft is doing okay, some activity and a reasonably healthy esports scene for a game of its age but it's not a big revenue driver and is going to remain in its slow decline until Starcraft 3 or some other major change which has not been announced.

Faith in Activision to make an engaging game that people want to buy into is quite low compared to previous levels at the moment for most of their game franchises which impacts their perceived value as a company.

---

They don't have much to drive sustainable growth right now; wiping out a year and a half of growth in a few weeks is a big deal.



A trend of "people are losing interest in our games more than previously" is a good thing for Blizzard to see. It is clear why that is the case and I think if they were to fix their recent nonsense, it would improve.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
November 12 2018 22:38 GMT
#10115
Yeah, i hope so

a lot of the issues are similar across games
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Goilox
Profile Joined November 2018
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-12 23:11:16
November 12 2018 23:09 GMT
#10116
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 13 2018 00:02 GMT
#10117
On November 13 2018 08:09 Goilox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2018 07:38 Cyro wrote:
Yeah, i hope so

a lot of the issues are similar across games

Yeah, those games are just not as good as Fortnite. Or how much worse DotA 2 is compared to League of Legends. For how long has Pubg been kicking CS:GO's ass now? When are they going to fix this trash?

I don't think I understand what you're saying here
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21953 Posts
November 13 2018 00:13 GMT
#10118
On November 13 2018 09:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2018 08:09 Goilox wrote:
On November 13 2018 07:38 Cyro wrote:
Yeah, i hope so

a lot of the issues are similar across games

Yeah, those games are just not as good as Fortnite. Or how much worse DotA 2 is compared to League of Legends. For how long has Pubg been kicking CS:GO's ass now? When are they going to fix this trash?

I don't think I understand what you're saying here
99% sure its the guy that got repeatedly banned in the last week back to try yet again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Goilox
Profile Joined November 2018
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 00:26:27
November 13 2018 00:21 GMT
#10119
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 01:05:50
November 13 2018 01:04 GMT
#10120
I've been writing Sylvanas personally since 2006, and this is pretty much - the Wrathgate and the Blight and the Forsaken - in character. Those were all under Sylvanas' orders.


oops
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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