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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 19:06 GMT
#7081
I didn't record anything so guessing but:
1 M+ chest
0 caches
~20 raid bosses
~5 mythic dungeons
~40 heroic dungeons
0 minor rifts
~30 rares
~25 treasures
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
November 08 2017 19:11 GMT
#7082
rares and treasures will contribute a little bit but barely at all, heroic dungeons i'm not sure.

you can add 14 raid bosses in about an hour with emerald nightmare fastclears and get 6-10 rifts per day for ~3 minutes each, they seem to count similarly to raid bosses
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 19:14 GMT
#7083
On November 09 2017 04:11 Cyro wrote:
rares and treasures will contribute a little bit but barely at all, heroic dungeons i'm not sure.

you can add 14 raid bosses in about an hour with emerald nightmare fastclears and get 6-10 rifts per day for ~3 minutes each, they seem to count similarly to raid bosses
Ok, I'll try to start doing some rifts. Thanks for the advice.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 19:18:39
November 08 2017 19:15 GMT
#7084
On November 09 2017 03:58 Cyro wrote:

Maybe for some people but not all. People said the same thing about classic RS before it spiked in popularity beyond the main game. Early WoW (vanilla+tbc, even wotlk) is quite different to modern WoW and the changes are not even close to all being straight upgrades, there were many tradeoffs along the way


Sure, but you are severely underestimating the improvements the game has made. Especially from the perspective of skipping 2.8 expacs theres lots of things I just never ever want to go back to. And to their credit, they realise this aswell so if anything they might do a better job with the new classics. It will be worth investing some time in for sure.

I find it extremely unliky that this endeavour spikes beyond the main game. There is obviously a market or niche for it without a doubt and I am glad they are doing it but alot of the the hype and novelty will wear thin reasonably quickly. At the end of the day, being able to do endgame is still what most people who actually invest their time in their game will gravitate towards.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 19:19:29
November 08 2017 19:15 GMT
#7085
np and gl, first one has to drop soon

On November 09 2017 04:15 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 03:58 Cyro wrote:

Maybe for some people but not all. People said the same thing about classic RS before it spiked in popularity beyond the main game. Early WoW (vanilla+tbc, even wotlk) is quite different to modern WoW and the changes are not even close to all being straight upgrades, there were many tradeoffs along the way


Sure, but you are severely underestimating the improvements the game has made. There is 0 chance this endeavour spikes beyond the main game. It will be interesting ofc. There is obviously a market or niche for it without a doubt. Im just pointing out that the hype and novelty will wear thin very quickly.


I'm aware of the changes, don't expect it to get 5 million subs but i think a lot of people dismiss the idea too quickly (you think you do but you don't)

there was a decent crowd on legacy servers despite the army of people who would want to try or replay legacy when it was ran by Blizzard; i don't want and friends don't want to spend 2 months leveling a char for it to be deleted overnight to a copyright letter
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 19:35:19
November 08 2017 19:34 GMT
#7086
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22088 Posts
November 08 2017 19:40 GMT
#7087
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 19:42 GMT
#7088
On November 09 2017 04:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
I wasn't sure if it could passively log other peoples numbers in your raid. That's interesting, though, thanks.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22088 Posts
November 08 2017 19:45 GMT
#7089
On November 09 2017 04:42 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 04:40 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
I wasn't sure if it could passively log other peoples numbers in your raid. That's interesting, though, thanks.

Wha?
Yes, when you log (aka write the ingame combatlog to a text file) the entire raid roster is recorded, not just what you personally are doing. So yes it will log other people's numbers in your raid. And you can see the entire raid group if you check a log that was upload to warcraftlogs.com.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 19:52 GMT
#7090
On November 09 2017 04:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 04:42 calgar wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:40 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
I wasn't sure if it could passively log other peoples numbers in your raid. That's interesting, though, thanks.

Wha?
Yes, when you log (aka write the ingame combatlog to a text file) the entire raid roster is recorded, not just what you personally are doing. So yes it will log other people's numbers in your raid. And you can see the entire raid group if you check a log that was upload to warcraftlogs.com.
So the pool is any log taken of anyone ever, and 1 person in a group or raid can take logs for everyone, yes?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22088 Posts
November 08 2017 19:56 GMT
#7091
On November 09 2017 04:52 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 04:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:42 calgar wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:40 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
I wasn't sure if it could passively log other peoples numbers in your raid. That's interesting, though, thanks.

Wha?
Yes, when you log (aka write the ingame combatlog to a text file) the entire raid roster is recorded, not just what you personally are doing. So yes it will log other people's numbers in your raid. And you can see the entire raid group if you check a log that was upload to warcraftlogs.com.
So the pool is any log taken of anyone ever, and 1 person in a group or raid can take logs for everyone, yes?

The pool for performance % is all logs on that boss, at that difficulty, with that spec, (optional in that ilvl bracket).
And yes only 1 person needs to log per group.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
November 08 2017 19:57 GMT
#7092
On November 09 2017 03:58 Cyro wrote:
It's a partially random value but it's highly driven by the droprate multiplier - within a relatively small amount of content you have 10x the initial droprate on your first legendary; it becomes exponentially less likely that you wouldn't see a drop. At the same time that means that if you haven't got the right amount of boss kills, rifts etc under your belt then it's a lot less likely than you might expect to randomly drop.

Just write down all of the major content that you have done (mythic dungeons, raid bosses, emissary caches, minor rifts)

my last two, skipping or simplifying a bunch of content

Show nested quote +
1 weekly chests

5 caches

11 raid bosses

0 mythic dungeons

20 minor rifts


Druid token drop


-----------------------------


1 weekly chests

11 caches

20 raid bosses

1 mythic dungeons

58 minor rifts

Warrior token drop


The first legendary drops many times faster, i think like 5 times faster than the ones that i'm supposed to get - and with the amount of legendaries dropping to random people around me and guildies i don't think that this is particularly lucky of me.


Show nested quote +
I've been doing 50% dungeon runs (with M+ cache) and 50% questing for flying along with all the weekly LFR with possible upgrades.


questing is zero contribution to legendaries, only the caches help; mythic+ is one of the lowest. LFR bosses are fine but can take a long time to kill relative to their returns, you can wipe a normal EN in 25 minutes no problem but LFR used to take me several hours to get through because of the quality of group members


------------

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 00:44 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2017 00:38 Noocta wrote:
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.


That special Allure is mostly nostalgia.


Maybe for some people but not all. People said the same thing about classic RS before it spiked in popularity beyond the main game. Early WoW (vanilla+tbc, even wotlk) is quite different to modern WoW and the changes are not even close to all being straight upgrades, there were many tradeoffs along the way


I think its different with sandbox games versus theme park games. From what I gather from /r/Kronos and /r/wowservers, a lot of the community dies on private servers when naxx comes out, because there's nothing to progress on anymore.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
November 08 2017 20:21 GMT
#7093
On November 09 2017 04:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 04:52 calgar wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:42 calgar wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:40 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2017 04:34 calgar wrote:
When logs tell you your performance percentile by ilvl is that compared to the global population or an inherently biased population of other log users?

how can it compare to people who are not in the database?
So yes it compares to other people in logs of your spec, in your ilvl bracket.
I wasn't sure if it could passively log other peoples numbers in your raid. That's interesting, though, thanks.

Wha?
Yes, when you log (aka write the ingame combatlog to a text file) the entire raid roster is recorded, not just what you personally are doing. So yes it will log other people's numbers in your raid. And you can see the entire raid group if you check a log that was upload to warcraftlogs.com.
So the pool is any log taken of anyone ever, and 1 person in a group or raid can take logs for everyone, yes?

The pool for performance % is all logs on that boss, at that difficulty, with that spec, (optional in that ilvl bracket).
And yes only 1 person needs to log per group.


Also it usually compares to logs in the last 2 weeks IIRC
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 15:27:51
November 09 2017 15:26 GMT
#7094
I'm wasting a lot of time figuring out how to get to certain places. Sometimes I pick up a random quest that's on a different continent, and I have no idea how to get there... If I made a lvl 100 char, is there a point in doing any of the quests outside of the latest expansion? The whole garrison stuff seems to be from the Draenor expansion, is that still relevant?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 15:27:17
November 09 2017 15:26 GMT
#7095
On November 10 2017 00:26 Glacierz wrote:
I'm wasting a lot of time figuring out how to get to certain places. Sometimes I pick up a random quest that's on a different continent, and I have no idea how to get there... If I made a lvl 100 char, is there a point in doing any of the quests outside of the latest expansion?

No

(well there might be some toy items or transmog (armor skins) items you want)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
November 09 2017 15:43 GMT
#7096
What do people usually do for skill hotkeys beyond the default row from 1 to '='? I put the extra ones in a bar that's not hotkeyed to anything yet.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 15:50:02
November 09 2017 15:48 GMT
#7097
On November 10 2017 00:43 Glacierz wrote:
What do people usually do for skill hotkeys beyond the default row from 1 to '='? I put the extra ones in a bar that's not hotkeyed to anything yet.

1-5 Qertfgzx and shift modifiers on those keys
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 09 2017 15:48 GMT
#7098
I have things hotkeyed 1-7, q, e, r, t, f, g, z, x and then alt/ctrl/shift + any of those. Keeps it all to my left hand and gives me a lot of flexibility in classes.

I put some stuff on non keybound things too like hearthstones/poisons/lockpick/etc. Misc stuff that isn't really used in combat regularly.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
November 09 2017 15:49 GMT
#7099
On November 10 2017 00:26 Glacierz wrote:
I'm wasting a lot of time figuring out how to get to certain places. Sometimes I pick up a random quest that's on a different continent, and I have no idea how to get there... If I made a lvl 100 char, is there a point in doing any of the quests outside of the latest expansion? The whole garrison stuff seems to be from the Draenor expansion, is that still relevant?

Not to progress your character, but there might be achievements/cosmetic shit you'll want.

Anyway, when you get your Dalaran Hearthstone, you'll have access to a lot of portals all over the world. Near the Windrunner Enclave, if you're horde, you go to Org/ThunderBluff to get to Kalimdor, Undercity to get to Eastern Kingdoms Valley of Eternal Blossoms for Pandaria.

If you're Alliance, Greymane enclave, Ironforge/Stormwind for Eastern Kingdoms, Darnassus to get to Kalimdor and Valley of Eternal Blossoms for Pandaria.

Go to the center building in Dalaran, stand on the circle thingie, Go down the 2 sets of ramps, you have caverns of time which is southern kalimdor, Shat which is Outland, Wyrmrest Temple for Northerend, Dalaran Crater and Karazhan are in Eastern Kingdoms.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 15:58:25
November 09 2017 15:57 GMT
#7100
On November 10 2017 00:49 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 00:26 Glacierz wrote:
I'm wasting a lot of time figuring out how to get to certain places. Sometimes I pick up a random quest that's on a different continent, and I have no idea how to get there... If I made a lvl 100 char, is there a point in doing any of the quests outside of the latest expansion? The whole garrison stuff seems to be from the Draenor expansion, is that still relevant?

Not to progress your character, but there might be achievements/cosmetic shit you'll want.

Anyway, when you get your Dalaran Hearthstone, you'll have access to a lot of portals all over the world. Near the Windrunner Enclave, if you're horde, you go to Org/ThunderBluff to get to Kalimdor, Undercity to get to Eastern Kingdoms Valley of Eternal Blossoms for Pandaria.

If you're Alliance, Greymane enclave, Ironforge/Stormwind for Eastern Kingdoms, Darnassus to get to Kalimdor and Valley of Eternal Blossoms for Pandaria.

Go to the center building in Dalaran, stand on the circle thingie, Go down the 2 sets of ramps, you have caverns of time which is southern kalimdor, Shat which is Outland, Wyrmrest Temple for Northerend, Dalaran Crater and Karazhan are in Eastern Kingdoms.

Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.

For those using qwerty for skills, what are your movement keys?
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