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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
November 07 2017 19:41 GMT
#7061
Didn't know that, will look into it.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 08 2017 09:42 GMT
#7062
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 13:29:11
November 08 2017 13:28 GMT
#7063
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 08 2017 14:00 GMT
#7064
When i think back on vanilla, i was in a good guild and enjoyed the company. Which made it fun to travel to onyxia from ironforge for 30 minutes every week. Making fun of the people who missed the boat. Making fun of the people who fell off the boat. Making fun of the people who were on the boat but afked for a minute and continued to sail back to the wetlands. Having fun listen to the raidleader flame the people who were too late. All that was fun back then.
If i had to travel 30 minutes to a raid in <currentYear> though? Fuck that man, aint no one got time for that. I can drop school 5 times in pubg in that time. Or play three hots matches, or one dota match etc etc.
I enjoyed the company so while i did mind having to farm trashmobs for 30 minutes before every raid so i had enough shards to give out healthstones for at least 2 tries, i accepted and did my duty for the people i raided with. If i had to do this right now? Fuck off.

Vanilla was full of gimmicks and quirks that got streamlined away, like ammo on hunters, melee weapons on hunters, wands on casters etc. Which is really miss dearly. But boy will people have a rude awakening when they realize it wasnt all fun without QoL that we have right now.

You think KJ class stacking is bad? Second boss in mc required you to farm the fiirst boss for at least 4 ids so that you can bring 4 hunters with tranquil shot (yes, the boss fucking dropped a skill book that was otherwise unavailable). Viscidius required everyone to have a frostspell. So if your class had none you had to farm a lvl 30 dagger from a dungeon so you can autoattack no matter whatclass you are and be useful. On ouro if you brought a melee because they had no range twink, they had to shoot with a bow. You can imagine how much dps that did. And dont make me mention how many guilds broke apart because they couldnt recruit 8 tanks for 4 horseman. Or how many guilds broke apart because their tanks ditched them for a guild that needed tanks for 4 horseman...

Vanilla was fun because of the community feeling. You wont get it back in 2017 with discords and your mmo-champs and your wowheads.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 08 2017 15:38 GMT
#7065
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 08 2017 15:44 GMT
#7066
On November 09 2017 00:38 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.


That special Allure is mostly nostalgia.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 16:13:39
November 08 2017 16:11 GMT
#7067
On November 09 2017 00:44 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 00:38 Noocta wrote:
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.


That special Allure is mostly nostalgia.


Not mostly. The feeling that you are mastering the moment rather than just cruising trough it as free ride is very different. You feel like your time is better spent, and you get a challenge feeling in detail on everything you do. Like I hate leveling in retail, its just a big grind on easy mode, nothing you really do matter except XP. Leveling on vanilla is an even bigger timeconsuming grind but its also an investment, and everything you did along the way was a lot more difficult and more rewarding. This is what an MMO experience should be like. Now you just skip everything in between and push for endgame.

And yes, I did go back and play on Nostalrius leveling til 40 or so on several chars last year. I got suprised how much I enjoyed it and missed that type of game over current retail. maybe you will too
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
November 08 2017 17:13 GMT
#7068
So I was exploring on a mount with a fresh lvl 100 trial character, and ran into some kind of invisible barrier in some mountain range. Are there zones you can't fly through in this game?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 17:56:40
November 08 2017 17:39 GMT
#7069
On November 09 2017 01:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 00:44 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2017 00:38 Noocta wrote:
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.


That special Allure is mostly nostalgia.


Not mostly. The feeling that you are mastering the moment rather than just cruising trough it as free ride is very different. You feel like your time is better spent, and you get a challenge feeling in detail on everything you do. Like I hate leveling in retail, its just a big grind on easy mode, nothing you really do matter except XP. Leveling on vanilla is an even bigger timeconsuming grind but its also an investment, and everything you did along the way was a lot more difficult and more rewarding. This is what an MMO experience should be like. Now you just skip everything in between and push for endgame.

And yes, I did go back and play on Nostalrius leveling til 40 or so on several chars last year. I got suprised how much I enjoyed it and missed that type of game over current retail. maybe you will too


No I wont, because I played on a bunch of private servers for some throwback fun after I quit hardcore play in Cata.

The main tether is friends you can get to do it with you and once the nostalgia and novelty wears off its pretty easy to get bored. Id much rather push for endgame. That also is my personal preference of course. I've never been able to play the game super casually. (I just tried again after skipping Tomb and going to Blizzcon lets see how long that lasts.)

But if you enjoy rewarding leveling experiences plenty of games do that better than wow does or really ever did for that matter. Ive done my fair share of leveling over 400+ days at that game in the space of 4 expacs and some private server fun. I dont need that anymore :p no matter how much you try and romanticize it. But I am sure with people time on their hands will enjoy it. Especially those who never did it or want to play with friends.

Also I might add, Ive played some on a hyper op 3x Xp type BC server, dont rem what it was called. That was actually just as entertaining as regular servers and for about the same length of time.


micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
November 08 2017 17:44 GMT
#7070
On November 09 2017 02:13 Glacierz wrote:
So I was exploring on a mount with a fresh lvl 100 trial character, and ran into some kind of invisible barrier in some mountain range. Are there zones you can't fly through in this game?

Yes, like Blood Elf land.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
November 08 2017 17:52 GMT
#7071
The biggest thing im looking forward to is just levelling from 1-60 with friends and a whole bunch of other people doing it as a big community

I mean like, 1-60 takes TIME, like 3-6 months for a normal human and there's a lot to experience on the way, honestly i think it will be super fun
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 08 2017 18:32 GMT
#7072
I don't think it'll take that long. I think its only 6-12 days in /timeplayed.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 18:37:04
November 08 2017 18:32 GMT
#7073
I've logged 51 hours at level 110 now with no legendary. I know it's random and all with increasing pity rate (nice idea borrowed from diablo along with M+ keys and affixes) but should I be roughly close to getting something or do I need another like 5 days played before I can reasonably expect something?

On November 09 2017 02:44 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 02:13 Glacierz wrote:
So I was exploring on a mount with a fresh lvl 100 trial character, and ran into some kind of invisible barrier in some mountain range. Are there zones you can't fly through in this game?

Yes, like Blood Elf land.
Yea, I think technically Silvermoon and Azuremyst are on the Outlands map as far as where they exist in the game. They aren't finished from above so if you glitch into them they are facades with no textures or actual finished buildings.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22311 Posts
November 08 2017 18:36 GMT
#7074
On November 09 2017 03:32 calgar wrote:
I've logged 51 hours at level 110 now with no legendary. I know it's random and all with increasing pity rate (nice idea borrowed from diablo along with M+ keys and affixes) but should I be roughly close to getting something or do I need another like 5 days played before I can reasonably expect something?

Just hours logged does nothing. Have you been doing raids? M+? completing Emissaries ect?
Do you already have all for your loot spec? if so, try changing it to something else.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 18:40 GMT
#7075
On November 09 2017 03:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 03:32 calgar wrote:
I've logged 51 hours at level 110 now with no legendary. I know it's random and all with increasing pity rate (nice idea borrowed from diablo along with M+ keys and affixes) but should I be roughly close to getting something or do I need another like 5 days played before I can reasonably expect something?

Just hours logged does nothing. Have you been doing raids? M+? completing Emissaries ect?
Do you already have all for your loot spec? if so, try changing it to something else.
I understand it's random chance from
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rather than time played. I just mean that as a general frame of reference.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22311 Posts
November 08 2017 18:42 GMT
#7076
As a general frame of reference I was getting one roughly every 2 IRL weeks doing all Emissaries, 1 weekly raid and 1 weekly M+ for the chest.
So if your not getting any after 51 hours ingame your doing it wrong.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 08 2017 18:50 GMT
#7077
On November 09 2017 03:42 Gorsameth wrote:
As a general frame of reference I was getting one roughly every 2 IRL weeks doing all Emissaries, 1 weekly raid and 1 weekly M+ for the chest.
So if your not getting any after 51 hours ingame your doing it wrong.
I mean, it's an expected value. You can be above it or below it but I don't understand what you mean about doing it wrong. It's been about 8 days since I dinged so sounds like I'm due relatively soon according to you.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 08 2017 18:51 GMT
#7078
On November 09 2017 03:50 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 03:42 Gorsameth wrote:
As a general frame of reference I was getting one roughly every 2 IRL weeks doing all Emissaries, 1 weekly raid and 1 weekly M+ for the chest.
So if your not getting any after 51 hours ingame your doing it wrong.
I mean, it's an expected value. You can be above it or below it but I don't understand what you mean about doing it wrong. It's been about 8 days since I dinged so sounds like I'm due relatively soon according to you.

You could be doing content like transmog or PVP exclusively for all we know. I've gotten a couple alts to 110 in the last week, and they both got their legendaries within a couple days of hitting 110.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 18:56:28
November 08 2017 18:55 GMT
#7079
On November 09 2017 03:51 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 03:50 calgar wrote:
On November 09 2017 03:42 Gorsameth wrote:
As a general frame of reference I was getting one roughly every 2 IRL weeks doing all Emissaries, 1 weekly raid and 1 weekly M+ for the chest.
So if your not getting any after 51 hours ingame your doing it wrong.
I mean, it's an expected value. You can be above it or below it but I don't understand what you mean about doing it wrong. It's been about 8 days since I dinged so sounds like I'm due relatively soon according to you.

You could be doing content like transmog or PVP exclusively for all we know. I've gotten a couple alts to 110 in the last week, and they both got their legendaries within a couple days of hitting 110.
I've been doing 50% dungeon runs (with M+ cache) and 50% questing for flying along with all the weekly LFR with possible upgrades.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 19:04:50
November 08 2017 18:58 GMT
#7080
It's a partially random value but it's highly driven by the droprate multiplier - within a relatively small amount of content you have 10x the initial droprate on your first legendary; it becomes exponentially less likely that you wouldn't see a drop. At the same time that means that if you haven't got the right amount of boss kills, rifts etc under your belt then it's a lot less likely than you might expect to randomly drop.

Just write down all of the major content that you have done (mythic dungeons, raid bosses, emissary caches, minor rifts)

my last two, skipping or simplifying a bunch of content

1 weekly chests

5 caches

11 raid bosses

0 mythic dungeons

20 minor rifts


Druid token drop


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1 weekly chests

11 caches

20 raid bosses

1 mythic dungeons

58 minor rifts

Warrior token drop


The first legendary drops many times faster, i think like 5 times faster than the ones that i'm supposed to get - and with the amount of legendaries dropping to random people around me and guildies i don't think that this is particularly lucky of me.


I've been doing 50% dungeon runs (with M+ cache) and 50% questing for flying along with all the weekly LFR with possible upgrades.


questing is zero contribution to legendaries, only the caches help; mythic+ is one of the lowest. LFR bosses are fine but can take a long time to kill relative to their returns, you can wipe a normal EN in 25 minutes no problem but LFR used to take me several hours to get through because of the quality of group members


------------

On November 09 2017 00:44 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 00:38 Noocta wrote:
On November 08 2017 22:28 deth2munkies wrote:
On November 08 2017 18:42 Arnstein wrote:
As a guy that started in Pandaria, I'm excited to check out vanilla!


Prepare to be disappointed. You'll find out a lot of things that you didn't even have to think about in Pandaria are a pain in the fucking ass to do in Vanilla.

Want to run a dungeon? Be prepared to spam tradechat for 30 minutes to find a tank, then have everyone fly to the nearest FP and run past a shitload of mobs to get to the instance, only to have 1 person leave and someone have to hearth back while the others wait at the entrance, then do it all over again.

Honestly, I don't think anyone but people interested in nostalgia value would be interested.


There's a special allure to it, but you have to understand what you go into before doing so.


That special Allure is mostly nostalgia.


Maybe for some people but not all. People said the same thing about classic RS before it spiked in popularity beyond the main game. Early WoW (vanilla+tbc, even wotlk) is quite different to modern WoW and the changes are not even close to all being straight upgrades, there were many tradeoffs along the way
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