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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Cyro
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 17 2017 09:32 Redox wrote: Huh, the talent on the ring for MW, Mist Wrap, is actually quite ok. Probably not good enough to make the ring better than Prydaz or the healer trinket though. Also they made t20 boni worse. 4p bonus is like +3% heal overall, depending on proc luck, wow. And they made the bonus less interesting as it now just gives a flat % increase to heal instead of resetting cd on thunder focus tea which would have made our gameplay at least a little more dynamic. Instead with the new cd they put on essence font and mana cost reduce you always just want to use it on cd. As was already the case with thunder focus tea and renewing mist. On top of that most our stuff is auto targeted. So mistweaver is even more auto pilot than before. Can we actually afford to use Essence Font on CD? They only reduced the mana cost by 10%, which doesn't seem like nearly enough to cover using it on CD unless your fights are close to 3 minutes in length. I honestly don't know why they tied it to Essence Font for exactly the same effective PPM that it had before, I much preferred it the other way. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Makes me want to get my Shaman ones done. | ||
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Alventenie
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Zambrah
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 17 2017 11:48 Seuss wrote: Can we actually afford to use Essence Font on CD? They only reduced the mana cost by 10%, which doesn't seem like nearly enough to cover using it on CD unless your fights are close to 3 minutes in length. I honestly don't know why they tied it to Essence Font for exactly the same effective PPM that it had before, I much preferred it the other way. Well I am already casting close to 4 per min on 6 min fights now. Although tbh several are chained under mana tea and you cant chain them anymore. But then there are also breaks when there is no raid dmg, so in reality you will not actually use it every 12 second. So yeah more more accurate would be to say you use it on cd when there is any meaningful dmg. Especially if it is needed to activate our 2p and 4p boni. In any case those set boni seem super weak. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
Spawning GotO every time I use a brew is just hilarious. I tanked the training dummy without any defensive cds up to 100 stacks of the debuff and I was out healing its damage with no issue, until I made a mistake of my own at 100 stacks like a bad player. I will have a lot of fun with this set. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
I think 4pc T19 and 2pc T20 will be better than 2pc T19 and 4pc T20. Having the extra brews in general will likely outweigh the stagger reduction of T20, especially since its multiplicative so grabbing 5 orbs with expel harm doesn't reduce your stagger by 25%, but 5% 5 times. I think having the extra brew gen will just give you better reduction with the extra purify. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 17 2017 19:38 Redox wrote: Well I am already casting close to 4 per min on 6 min fights now. Although tbh several are chained under mana tea and you cant chain them anymore. But then there are also breaks when there is no raid dmg, so in reality you will not actually use it every 12 second. So yeah more more accurate would be to say you use it on cd when there is any meaningful dmg. Especially if it is needed to activate our 2p and 4p boni. In any case those set boni seem super weak. Do you get BoW/Innervates at all? I'd struggle pretty hard with mana if I used it that often. | ||
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Redox
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Warri
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22487 Posts
On May 17 2017 21:45 Alventenie wrote: That is very true. I always disliked that but I just enjoy BrM more than any other tank. I think 4pc T19 and 2pc T20 will be better than 2pc T19 and 4pc T20. Having the extra brews in general will likely outweigh the stagger reduction of T20, especially since its multiplicative so grabbing 5 orbs with expel harm doesn't reduce your stagger by 25%, but 5% 5 times. I think having the extra brew gen will just give you better reduction with the extra purify. The moment people keep using 4pc in Tomb is the moment Blizzard will nerf it into the ground as they have done in the past when such a situation accord. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22487 Posts
On May 17 2017 22:28 Warri wrote: But arent monks getting a hefty stagger nerf? Its a 10%? nerf I think. No its no big deal, stagger 80% instead of 90% of a hit is not a significant nerf. The duration cap on Ironskin is going to be annoying but being able to bank several minutes of active mitigation and then just purifying non-stop was kinda hilariously OP. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On May 17 2017 22:28 Warri wrote: But arent monks getting a hefty stagger nerf? They reverted a lot of the stagger rework when they realized they can't prevent the cheesing without completely breaking the spec. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
The duration cap is hitting paladins too, really annoying /: Edit ^ ah alright. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22487 Posts
On May 17 2017 22:38 Warri wrote: I meant that stagger has a limit proportional to your max hp. And that doesnt sound not significant. Thats literally double the damage going through that cant be purified. Triple if you count with high tolerance going from 95 to 85%. The duration cap is hitting paladins too, really annoying /: Edit ^ ah alright. Stagger will be capped at 1000% of your hp. You will never get there even if cheesing And yes you take 2/3x as much damage and that sounds significant but a Brewmaster's strait up damage intake is so low that doubling it is not a big deal. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
It was changed because it broke our class in that we stopped being tanks at some magical number outside of being dead (like every other tank). The ISB cap is annoying, but they did it to prevent us from abusing our mitigation on specific fights. Getting 2-3 minutes of ISB up time then going into tanking the boss and purifying for the next 2-3 minutes really makes some bosses not as tough (M botanist is a good example, or M+ fort/tyrannical saving isb on bosses/trash). Having this cap prevents that. I think it would be nice to have the cap around 40-45 seconds, but Blizz disagrees. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
From testing on the PTR it just feels pretty awful to cast Essence Font and not get a proc, which is what's going to happen more often than not. I liked it a heck of a lot better when it was a random proc off any healing spell cast. | ||
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