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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On April 29 2015 10:14 Cele wrote: Perhaps im blindsighted by the *epic stare into nothing sadface* propaganda photos lol, i dunno. Very interesting article though. lol hmm. Interesting point you made here about the pics | ||
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neteX
Sweden285 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On April 29 2015 10:19 Deathstar wrote: lol hmm. Interesting point you made here about the pics yeah i was feeling for savior quite a bit when i read the article. However, replies made me aware that he is actually acting quite deceptive in his answers. Given that, it could very well be the case, that the photos were picked specifically to stir sentiments of pity in the reader, though i would'nt claim that, i have no proof at all and we're unable to get any. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9150 Posts
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Archaeo
United States397 Posts
On April 29 2015 10:29 Cele wrote: yeah i was feeling for savior quite a bit when i read the article. However, replies made me aware that he is actually acting quite deceptive in his answers. Given that, it could very well be the case, that the photos were picked specifically to stir sentiments of pity in the reader, though i would'nt claim that, i have no proof at all and we're unable to get any. Yeah, his answers seem like an attempt to downplay his involvement. He says that he wasn't involved in match fixing and then goes onto say that he was the middle man? Can't forget these games: | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
why is this thread even still open? its an interview from 2013 that's already been translated and discussed previously. | ||
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
On April 29 2015 11:37 jinyung2 wrote: lol, why do people not get it. If a child molestor does time and is released would you be ok with him/her working at daycare center? I understand a lot of these guys were kids when this happened and most of them have pressure/monetary reasons for doing it and I forgive them (except Savior and Justin these two are utter trash). I'd totally buy clothes from hwasin's web store but I'd really like it if he wasn't streaming BW. why is this thread even still open? its an interview from 2013 that's already been translated and discussed previously. sAviOr did some fucked up stuff in the StarCraft scene but comparing matchfixing to child molestation is not even remotely in the same league. Yeah he's pretty shady and fucked up the scene but in no way in hell is he as bad (or even comes close) to a child abuser. That is incredibly fucked up to compare him to that. I say let him be. He's not hurting anyone else other than himself playing StarCraft. If he overcomes his situation then all the best to him. I highly doubt he's going to screw up any pro-game scene anytime soon. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On April 29 2015 10:00 prplhz wrote: he does apologize and he also says he apologized in that interview that never got published "Of course it would be that I'm extremely sorry, not just to the other players, but also the people who worked for CJ as well. It's even worse for my coach, who had a lot of trust me." "Because of me and this matchfixing scandal, the world of esports was engulfed in chaos. I'm really sorry for that. I know that my actions hurt other players and fans. So much time has passed allowing me to reflect on this incident. I want to say that I don't want to try to change people's view of me through this interview. I can only say I broke the rules, and have to keep apologizing and feeling regret." way to reading comprehension and apparently he never did matchfix (as in throw games), he encouraged and helped other people to do it. that's pretty much just as bad but you can't expect him to admit to something he didn't do. please, I watched every single one of Saviors games, the good ones, the bad ones, and the ones during the match fixing period. you want me to believe he was involved with match fixing on every level and never match fixed himself? i watched those games i know what happened in them. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
On April 29 2015 12:09 Neo7 wrote: sAviOr did some fucked up stuff in the StarCraft scene but comparing matchfixing to child molestation is not even remotely in the same league. Yeah he's pretty shady and fucked up the scene but in no way in hell is he as bad (or even comes close) to a child abuser. That is incredibly fucked up to compare him to that. I say let him be. He's not hurting anyone else other than himself playing StarCraft. If he overcomes his situation then all the best to him. I highly doubt he's going to screw up any pro-game scene anytime soon. sigh if what you got out of that was im comparing matchfixing to child molestation then you've completely missed the point... its a fuckin analogy i mean cmon rofl If he wants to play starcraft, fine. if he wants to stream it, fine. But if he expected not get hate and wants to complain about it, its like ?!?!?!?! what did you expect dude?! | ||
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vicml21
Canada165 Posts
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gade1123
United States144 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On April 29 2015 12:47 kingcastles wrote: what s the feedback, everyone still hatin? yup ![[image loading]](http://stimg.afreeca.com/PHOTO_BBS/3/7260063/%2525B5%A5%E4%2525DA.gif) | ||
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outscar
2828 Posts
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chau sara
27 Posts
On April 29 2015 05:47 AleXoundOS wrote: Can we allow Savior to be restreamed at snipealot channels? yup | ||
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chau sara
27 Posts
On April 29 2015 11:14 itsjustatank wrote: this thread is a travesty. that it remains open despite policy is a walking performative contradiction. i have nothing but utter disdain for anyone posting in support of this trash. as for this trash, I have nothing at all to feel for you; leave. get a load of this guy | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
The truth is that his life has been ruined almost entirely since this incident, and we deserve to treat him with some humanity after his worthy punishment. He has been rightly banned from ever competing professionally (no one reasonable would debate this punishment), but perhaps we need to grow up too and see him as a person, too. We are humans too, and humans make mistakes. | ||
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BeStFAN
483 Posts
On April 29 2015 13:16 Alucen-Will- wrote: As controversial as it may be to say, banning sAviOr from ever competing and convicting him in court is a fair punishment. It seems there is always a bloodthirsty reaction to these sort of things to get some sort of vengance against the individual. The truth is that his life has been ruined almost entirely since this incident, and we deserve to treat him with some humanity after his worthy punishment. He has been rightly banned from ever competing professionally (no one reasonable would debate this punishment), but perhaps we need to grow up too and see him as a person, too. We are humans too, and humans make mistakes. his life has been very good and filled with luxuries by abusing his fanbase. it is clear you do not know truth | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On April 29 2015 13:20 BeStFAN wrote: his life has been very good and filled with luxuries by abusing his fanbase. it is clear you do not know truth Did you read the interview? | ||
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BeStFAN
483 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
edit: Here's the original interview. http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=236&article_id=0000094925 The 'source' linked is a Chinese website known for taking articles and translating them without permission (they've taken my interviews before) and also putting their watermark over others' pics LOL. But yeah, this is a FOMOS article from forever ago, as the OP points out. | ||
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