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On September 22 2015 01:41 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 01:34 QuanticHawk wrote:
A te like that in that style of offense should kick ass, even if he sees like 60% of the volume he saw in NO. Wilson can make all the throws he needs to make.
Not all them. He is terrible throwing down the middle of the field early in the down because he can't see the throwing lanes.
He's also terrible throwing down the middle of the field near the goal line.
Also, Romo out 8 weeks is good news for the Cowboys. Including their bye, he could come back at 2-7 and the division would still be winnable. Weeden winning 1-2 would sew up that terrible division.
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On September 22 2015 01:53 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 00:53 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I stand by what a said a few weeks ago about Graham being the undoing of Seattle. When the Hawks picked up Jimmy instead of paying Kam, they doomed themselves. Jimmy caught of 2 balls yesterday for 11 yards. Wilson is NOT a passer. Having Graham on the Hawks is the same thing as having Demarco Murray on the Eagles, a very talented player in a system that makes them completely ineffective.
I have no way of proving it but a think Beast Mode is purposely tanking until Kam comes back in a show of solidarity. If Graham is good as run blocker that will be exciting in terms of being a dual threat when he lines up right next to the tackles instead of instantly giving away strong side run formation. But Seattle was young and players do want to get paid. That's really the problem Seattle has and it's not going away any time soon.
Graham doesn't block, at all. Hes a underpaid wide receiver.
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If Seattle somehow loses one of their next two games what are the chances that locker room becomes a shit show? They get plenty testy on the field when they are losing, with play calling and contracts constantly brought up I can't help but feel it might get bad. (I don't think they lose their next 4)
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On September 22 2015 01:41 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 01:34 QuanticHawk wrote:
A te like that in that style of offense should kick ass, even if he sees like 60% of the volume he saw in NO. Wilson can make all the throws he needs to make.
Not all them. He is terrible throwing down the middle of the field early in the down because he can't see the throwing lanes.
That's a fair enough assessment of his weaknesses. I was thinking more along the lines of Graham essentially being a wr as others noted. He can stretch the field no matter where he lines up and RW is one of the best deep ball throwers in the game.
On September 22 2015 01:42 whatisthisasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 01:34 QuanticHawk wrote:
A te like that in that style of offense should kick ass, even if he sees like 60% of the volume he saw in NO. Wilson can make all the throws he needs to make.
It shouldn't be the expense of the Hawks defense though. The last two years the hawks have had the #1 defense. This season their defence is #29 They are overstretching themselves by trying to be good at everything instead being great at what their identity is imo. In no world can Wilson throw like Brees.
It's two games in. The Jets and Bills currently own the 4th and 5th ranked defenses, respectively. Does anyone in their right mind think those teams will be anywhere close to that later in the season, when a much larger sample size begins to show real trends? It's the same thing here. The Hawks did not go from 1# to #29 because of Cam Chancellor.
Wilson doesn't have to throw like Brees to get use out of Graham. Graham obviously won't sniff his NO numbers mostly because the Hawks will never throw that much overall, but he's a guy who wrecks man coverage and zone schemes, and can line up anywhere. He's a major RZ threat. His prescence on the field opens up everything else.
That offense has lacked all of that prior to the trade. The issue isn't about whether or not Graham adds to that offense (that is very obvious). It's whether he's worth the price tag.
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dont count the Buffalo Bills out. Yeah they lost to the Patriots but Brady is a hall of famer verging on legendary status. The Bills are a young & hungry team & i think this loss so early in the season will only help them down the road. Its 1 thing to play with emotion & hunger, its another thing to keep ur head on ur shoulders. This team will do better than 8-8, 9-7, theres just too much talent there. I dont know what their record will be, but a playoff berth seems entirely plausible.
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I think the Seahawks will figure out how to use Jimmy. He's too good not to. It's probably a foreign concept to the seahawks organization to have a receiver so good he doesn't technically have to be open to catch stuff.
If the hawks can manage to get their O rolling a bit more Grahams value raises with each yard you get closer to the RZ.
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On September 22 2015 04:10 giftdgecko wrote:
If Seattle somehow loses one of their next two games what are the chances that locker room becomes a shit show? They get plenty testy on the field when they are losing, with play calling and contracts constantly brought up I can't help but feel it might get bad. (I don't think they lose their next 4)
As fun as that would be, I feel like we all did this same thing last year and they beat the crap out of everyone and almost won the Super Bowl.
The fact of it is that Seattle played a very good Packers team to a tight game in GB last night and still has 8 games left at a field where they basically never lose. Everyone needs to R-E-L-A-X.
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Man if the colts lose to the jets as well, its going to be so hilarious.
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It's not time to blow up the team, but I don't know about relaxing. Seattle can easily make the playoffs, but it's hard to say that they are as good as last year.
One thing about hypothetical Graham utilization is that he's not much of a run blocker, so utilization in running downs is fairly weak. If Graham is a strong run blocker a la Gronkowski (NE) or Witten (DAL) SEA could disguise passes as runs or runs as passes or audible in and out of runs and passes into matchup problems.
But as others have said, Graham is mostly a route runner and is more like a slotted receiver rather than a big hole creating run blocker. He's prototype of the new Tight-End, all hands and jump and little bulk and push. Whatever your thoughts about the Max Unger and Graham trade, Seattle hasn't made the most of the trade because they haven't exploited Graham talents all that much by not throwing to him at all.
I'm rather thinking that Tight Ends should be a bit more of the run-blocking build so you can be dual threat on the run and the pass. Because if you want a pure receiver, why not just sign a WR instead?
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On September 22 2015 08:14 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Man if the colts lose to the jets as well, its going to be so hilarious.
As much as I dislike the Jets, completing the full nuke of my survivor pool would be pretty funny.
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On September 22 2015 08:34 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:14 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Man if the colts lose to the jets as well, its going to be so hilarious. As much as I dislike the Jets, completing the full nuke of my survivor pool would be pretty funny.
Yeah I wouldn't normally care either way but the Jets winning would finish up the amazing underdog weekend
Jets vs Redskins super bowl is gonna happen
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there are a lot of penalties in this game.
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Colts looking surprisingly eagle-like
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I'm disappointed the Jets arent ahead by more
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I feel like the colts and the eagles need to play each other
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This game's making me think that the Bills might not be as good as everyone was thinking. Colts look awful.
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Colts building another incompetent team around an elite qb.
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EPT
