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On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis So this tells me who had best results? This is not telling who you think is going to win? I have problems understanding this becoz this looks like normal power rank :D
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I guess that's understandable, he was there last time
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On October 24 2014 15:56 Sakat wrote: We got the Casting Crew!! Thoughts?
Paul “Redeye” Chaloner Sue “Smix” Lee Shaun “Apollo” Clark Kevin “RotterdaM” van der Kooi Nathan “Nathanias” Fabrikant Nick “Tasteless” Plott Sean “Day[9]” Plott James “Kaelaris” Carrol Yoan “ToD” Merlo Andrew “mOOnGLaDe” Pender
The lineup is nice.. I mean almost all good casters are there, still, I will miss Artosis and Incontrol. Also Redeye has nice accent but not the best host, he puts really stupid questions.. like he is unprepared, good luck with that korean translator guy. And ofc.. Plott brothers are nice, lately i like more Tastless then Sean (since if distanced himself from SC2). Apollo and RotterdaM are always great, they are in the top of my list when i think about casters. Nathanias one of the most passionate casters ever. Kaelaris is ok. ToD and mOOnGLaDe as experts are also nice, I enjoyed Tod casting.. and he will have a lot of protoss in the WCS. I like the lineup overall. Oh yeah, and Smix, almost forgot, she is so nice, always liked how she takes interviews.
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On October 24 2014 11:28 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:27 The_Templar wrote:On October 24 2014 11:20 lichter wrote: this is the worst thread in esports history How sure are you of that? We ignited several peoples' passion to play or talk about actual sc2. We got to know each other better. Admittedly those shouldn't be done in a LR thread, but still... Yeah, this thread actually got a few people to play STARCRAFT!! THIS THREAD MADE ME TO PLAY SC2.
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On October 24 2014 16:06 jarod wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 15:56 Sakat wrote: We got the Casting Crew!! Thoughts?
Paul “Redeye” Chaloner Sue “Smix” Lee Shaun “Apollo” Clark Kevin “RotterdaM” van der Kooi Nathan “Nathanias” Fabrikant Nick “Tasteless” Plott Sean “Day[9]” Plott James “Kaelaris” Carrol Yoan “ToD” Merlo Andrew “mOOnGLaDe” Pender The lineup is nice.. I mean almost all good casters are there, still, I will miss Artosis and Incontrol. Also Redeye has nice accent but not the best host, he puts really stupid questions.. like he is unprepared, good luck with that korean translator guy. And ofc.. Plott brothers are nice, lately i like more Tastless then Sean (since if distanced himself from SC2). Apollo and RotterdaM are always great, they are in the top of my list when i think about casters. Nathanias one of the most passionate casters ever. Kaelaris is ok. ToD and mOOnGLaDe as experts are also nice, I enjoyed Tod casting.. and he will have a lot of protoss in the WCS. I like the lineup overall. Oh yeah, and Smix, almost forgot, she is so nice, always liked how she takes interviews.
Oh, sorry, I thought I put Artosis in. He's going to be there
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis
Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 16:07 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:06 jarod wrote:On October 24 2014 15:56 Sakat wrote: We got the Casting Crew!! Thoughts?
Paul “Redeye” Chaloner Sue “Smix” Lee Shaun “Apollo” Clark Kevin “RotterdaM” van der Kooi Nathan “Nathanias” Fabrikant Nick “Tasteless” Plott Sean “Day[9]” Plott James “Kaelaris” Carrol Yoan “ToD” Merlo Andrew “mOOnGLaDe” Pender The lineup is nice.. I mean almost all good casters are there, still, I will miss Artosis and Incontrol. Also Redeye has nice accent but not the best host, he puts really stupid questions.. like he is unprepared, good luck with that korean translator guy. And ofc.. Plott brothers are nice, lately i like more Tastless then Sean (since if distanced himself from SC2). Apollo and RotterdaM are always great, they are in the top of my list when i think about casters. Nathanias one of the most passionate casters ever. Kaelaris is ok. ToD and mOOnGLaDe as experts are also nice, I enjoyed Tod casting.. and he will have a lot of protoss in the WCS. I like the lineup overall. Oh yeah, and Smix, almost forgot, she is so nice, always liked how she takes interviews. Oh, sorry, I thought I put Artosis in. He's going to be there Ok ok, if Artosis is there I`m happy, but hope he is there also for SC2 not only for HS.
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On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year.
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On October 24 2014 16:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:28 y0su wrote:On October 24 2014 11:27 The_Templar wrote:On October 24 2014 11:20 lichter wrote: this is the worst thread in esports history How sure are you of that? We ignited several peoples' passion to play or talk about actual sc2. We got to know each other better. Admittedly those shouldn't be done in a LR thread, but still... Yeah, this thread actually got a few people to play STARCRAFT!! THIS THREAD MADE ME TO PLAY SC2.
Hey, I wanted to ask, If we could play SC2 later today? you said something about trying to help me improve yesterday...
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On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year.
Just won two IEMs, he could do better!
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On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year. It seems pretty good to me, except that San is way way too high
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On October 24 2014 16:10 H8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year. Just won two IEMs, he could do better!  Only one IEM this year... And yes, he could do a lot better
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On October 24 2014 16:11 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:10 H8 wrote:On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year. Just won two IEMs, he could do better!  Only one IEM this year... And yes, he could do a lot better
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On October 24 2014 16:11 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:10 H8 wrote:On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year. Just won two IEMs, he could do better!  Only one IEM this year... And yes, he could do a lot better He also got second place in Katowice and was best player of this year's Proleague along with sOs. That's pretty good. Although I agree that his GSL results are unimpressive
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On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year.
He had good results, also did you see him yesterday, qualified from IEM beating really big names. One of the best players from Proleague, overall good results, but yeah.. he didn't win that much, but was consistent more ore less during the whole year. Also, lets talk about this: who are the players who have the momentum starting this Blizzcon. Who has the best recent results worldwide. 1. There is Bomber, WCS AM,Redbull 2. MMA WCS EU, Dreamhack 3. Innovation, GSL 4. Zest, Keska Cup and other high places 5. Based on the players from the qualifier I`d put here herO. I might be biased here, cause I really like herO. But also, he beat soO, so maybe that is why I put him above him. 6. Soo, 2nd GSL, 2nd Dreamhack SW 7.Polt Redbull Detroit ------ 8. Taeja - summer tournaments
MC,San, Stardust, Life, Classic, Hyun had more then 2 months since they saw a final of a torunament.
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On October 24 2014 16:10 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 24 2014 11:28 y0su wrote:On October 24 2014 11:27 The_Templar wrote:On October 24 2014 11:20 lichter wrote: this is the worst thread in esports history How sure are you of that? We ignited several peoples' passion to play or talk about actual sc2. We got to know each other better. Admittedly those shouldn't be done in a LR thread, but still... Yeah, this thread actually got a few people to play STARCRAFT!! THIS THREAD MADE ME TO PLAY SC2. Hey, I wanted to ask, If we could play SC2 later today? you said something about trying to help me improve yesterday... Oh yes sure. I will send my band account information as PM
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On October 24 2014 16:17 jarod wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 16:08 Sakat wrote:On October 24 2014 16:07 jarod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 10:35 y0su wrote:So, I didn't feel like making a traditional power rank! Instead, I decided to re-seed the players. Instead of using the set WCS points that Blizzard used I made adjustments that favored Korean events, WCS events and recent events (point decay). I didn't do anything scientific but just went with my gut based on events. Included are the individual player results. #16 jjakji+ Show Spoiler +Jjakji isn't the only one without a gold medal. Unlike some others, he also only managed a single silver. Combine those with the fact that he participated in TWELVE! WCS point events and it does NOT look good. In fact, the only positive note for Jjakji is that his highest place was at the recent DH Moscow (lost to MMA). If not for his ro4 apperances back in WCS EU season 1 and IEM San Paulo (Feburary) Jjakji would not even be on this list. #15 Jaedong+ Show Spoiler +How did Jaedong manage to get second (from the bottom)? First, unilke Jjakji Jaedong managed to take a gold. However, that's not the main reason. Jaedong managed to place better at every tournament he and Jjakji attended (IEM Cologne and Shenzen as well as DH summer and Stockholm). He even managed semi-finals in two of those. #14 Life+ Show Spoiler +So, why is Life ahead of Jaedong despite placing lower at IEM Shenzen and DH stockholm (same at ASUS winter)? Life managed some sucess in his WCS region AND his region was Korea. Life can boast a GSL semi-final (season 1), another semi-final at IEM Toronto and a win at DH Bucharest. Unforunately Life's GSL runs continually got worse and he has a string of failures to reach past the ro8. #13: StarDust+ Show Spoiler +Things start to get really muddy and close here. Without spoiling who comes next I'll just say that although Stardust managed as WCS win (Europ Season 2) his only other notable achievements are semi-final apperances at ASUS winter, DH Valencia and RedBull Detriot. Beyond those tournaments Stardust only managed to break the ro8 a few times and failed to reach that point almost as often. #12: MC+ Show Spoiler +MC and Stardust trade WCS Europ standing from season 1 to 2. Although Stardust's win is more recent MC outplaced in season 3. Beyond that each attended the same tournaments quite often either with similar results (IEM World Championships, DH Bucharest) or MC coming out on top (IEM Cologne, DH Summer and Valencia). MC also may have only had a single win, but he managed to collect a fair amount of silver (San Paulo, HSC IX, Valencia). Unfortunately his most recent major was a dissapointing failure to crack the ro32 at DH Stockholm! #11 Polt+ Show Spoiler +Captain America's only win comes from a relatively small RedBull Detriot event. He did respectably in his WCS region (ro8 in season 1 and 2 and a semi-final in the latest one). So, why didn't MC's WCS Europe win put him ahead? Unfortunately, appart from GSL I wasn't very comfortable comparing America vs Europe directly if I don't have to. Also, MC's win was in season 1 while Polt improved his placement. Both players also have a similar collection of silver (Polt took second in IEM Cologne, MLG Anaheim and RedBull Atlanta). Polt however has more semi-finals (two to none) and a Bronze medal from RedBull Washington. Now, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the RedBull Battlegrounds so again, why is Polt ahead of MC? Their shared tournaments finally tipped the scales. Dispite MC placing higher at IEM Toronto Polt placed higher at IEM Cologne, World Championships and most recently at DH Stockholm. #10 HyuN+ Show Spoiler +Polt beat Hyun in most of the tournaments they both attended. Polt came out ahead in IEM Cologne, World CHampionships, MLG Anaheim, RedBull Detroit and DH Stockholm. However, they also both competed in the same WCS region and here Hyun came out far ahead. He won season 1 and reach the semi-finals in the following seasons. Now, Hyun came out as Blizzard's #2 seed because of his multitude of tournament apperances (14) however in several cases he failed to reach the ro8. For my ranking this is actually hurts Hyun or he would most likely be higher up. #9 San+ Show Spoiler +There isn't much to go on when comparing San and Hyun. Both placed significantly well in their WCS regions (San sandwitched a Silver with two semi-final showings). Unfortunately they competed in different WCS regions and despite the multitude of tournaments they both attended only three of them were the same. When looking at those San comes out ahead. His ro8 at IEM World Championships and semi-final trump Hyun's ro16 at both (they both hit ro8 at RedBull Detroit). Finally, San never placed lower than ro8 in his 10 tournaments. #8 herO+ Show Spoiler +There's a few thigns going in herO's favor. Outside of GSL herO didn't travel much and within GSL he performed rather poorly. In fact, he did subsequently worse each season going from ro8 to ro16 to not making the ro32! So how is he this high with only four other tournaments? How is he even at Blizzcon? His few travels were extremely fruitful. The year started with a Gold at IEM Sao Paulo. He then made it all the way to the finals of the IEM World Championships. Despite failing to claim his $100000 he earned some nice points. He also outplaced San with earning another Silver at the recent KeSPA cup. Finally a semi-final finish at the most recent DH (Stockholm). #7 Classic+ Show Spoiler +Classic traveled even less than herO. He placed worse at both the KeSPA cup and DH Stockholm... But he did better in GSL. Classic may not have placed better in Season 1, but he came away with a GSL title in season 2! In this power rank that counts for a lot. Despite his season 3 drop he was still ahead of herO and so he remains. #6 TaeJa+ Show Spoiler +There isn't any direct comparison between Taeja and Classic so I have to just go on their tournament aceivements. Taeja's WCS America showing was terribly notable with ro8 finishes in the first two seasons. However, he hit another Golden summer with first place at HSC IX, DH Summer (duh) and IEM Shenzhen. He also added to his collection with a Silver at RedBull Detroit and hit semi-finals in IEM World Championships and Toronto. Overall, that was enough to place him in 6th. #5 MMA+ Show Spoiler +The first of our WCS Season 3 winners is MMA. He did get fall behind Taeja in both HSC IX and DH Summer (as did everyone else) but as I said, I'm valuing WCS and recent results a lot. MMA delivered there. His WCS Europe results inlucde the season 3 win Silver in season 1 and his recent wins include a win at DH Moscow. #4 INnoVation+ Show Spoiler +Our next WCS Season 3 winner took home gold from the most recent GSL. That counts for a lot. There's again, no overlap with Innovation's limited tournament visit and MMA's. However, again that GSL season 3 win... what more can I say? He'd be higher on the list if not for his poor showing in seasons 1 and 2. #3 Bomber+ Show Spoiler +How is our WCS America season 3 winner behind the GSL season 3 winner? More overall results, multiple recent wins, better WCS resluts. Bomber continually improved his WCS placing going from ro8 to back to back finals. He also manged sponsor wins at RedBull Atlanta and Washington. #2 soO+ Show Spoiler +Second place? Not because it just feels right (it does). Despite a lower showing than Bomber at the Kespa cup soO has been concistently high placing. Out of the 6 major tournament events he attended he only failed to make the semifinals once (KeSPA cup). In fact, he only failed to get past the semi-finals once and although he failed to claim a FINAL he took 2nd place in all 3 GSLs as well as DH Stockholm!!! #1 Zest+ Show Spoiler +Zest bearly beat out soO for the top ranking. He beat him (directly) in the GSL season 1. Although soO outplaced him in seasons 2 and 3 Zest still managed a ro8 (season 2) and semi-final apperance in season 3. Zest also managed to win two additional tournaments soO attended (GSL Global Championships and KeSPA cup where soO got semifinals and ro16 respectivly). He also padded his stats with a ro8 at IEM Shenzhen and a silver at Toronto. #IMadeThis Now this is a top I like. Only thing.. San to high, Polt and herO too low, but overall a great top. I think just Polt too low. herO didn't have thet best resulst this year. He had good results, also did you see him yesterday, qualified from IEM beating really big names. One of the best players from Proleague, overall good results, but yeah.. he didn't win that much, but was consistent more ore less during the whole year. Also, lets talk about this: who are the players who have the momentum starting this Blizzcon. Who has the best recent results worldwide. 1. There is Bomber, WCS AM,Redbull 2. MMA WCS EU, Dreamhack 3. Innovation, GSL 4. Zest, Keska Cup and other high places 5. Based on the players from the qualifier I`d put here herO. I might be biased here, cause I really like herO. But also, he beat soO, so maybe that is why I put him above him. 6. Soo, 2nd GSL, 2nd Dreamhack SW 7.Polt Redbull Detroit ------ 8. Taeja - summer tournaments MC,San, Stardust, Life, Classic, Hyun had more then 2 months since they saw a final of a torunament.
Don't forget Jaedong. He won WEC last month.
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soO should be higher imo. He accumulated momentum during the whole year with all his second places, it's time to shine now. And I'd probably put herO before Zest, since he got second in the WECG qualifiers and qualified for IEM San Jose too, while Zest lost 3-0 to Sora, 2-1 to Rain and 2-1 to Solar in these qualifiers
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Yes I can play with you Sakat
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On October 24 2014 16:20 OtherWorld wrote: soO should be higher imo. He accumulated momentum during the whole year with all his second places, it's time to shine now. And I'd probably put herO before Zest, since he got second in the WECG qualifiers and qualified for IEM San Jose too, while Zest lost 3-0 to Sora, 2-1 to Rain and 2-1 to Solar in these qualifiers Zest could be falling off a bit. It seems weird though, he should be practicing for Blizzcon... Artosis cured him?
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