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dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
October 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#14161
wait wait wait wait wait
since when was it "unimportant parts of the world"
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#14162
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#14163
SGTK's starting to slowly catch up to me. =/

Guess I'm gonna have to settle for top 8 by the time Blizzcon ends.
kiss kiss fall in love
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 21 2014 21:39 GMT
#14164
On October 22 2014 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
SGTK's starting to slowly catch up to me. =/

Guess I'm gonna have to settle for top 8 by the time Blizzcon ends.

unless yorkie comes back and walker and yosu go insane on pashun? you should be okay with a 5th or 6th spot
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2014 21:39 GMT
#14165
On October 22 2014 06:38 dangthatsright wrote:
wait wait wait wait wait
since when was it "unimportant parts of the world"


Since the beginning.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 21 2014 21:40 GMT
#14166
On October 22 2014 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
SGTK's starting to slowly catch up to me. =/

Guess I'm gonna have to settle for top 8 by the time Blizzcon ends.

I wont catch up. You're safe dude
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 21 2014 21:40 GMT
#14167
On October 22 2014 06:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
SGTK's starting to slowly catch up to me. =/

Guess I'm gonna have to settle for top 8 by the time Blizzcon ends.

I wont catch up. You're safe dude

nah bro, the way you have been going, you can, if you really care to
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 21 2014 21:41 GMT
#14168
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#14169
On October 22 2014 06:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
SGTK's starting to slowly catch up to me. =/

Guess I'm gonna have to settle for top 8 by the time Blizzcon ends.

I wont catch up. You're safe dude

nah bro, the way you have been going, you can, if you really care to

I don't actually care lol. I''m just playing it up for fun
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 21 2014 21:43 GMT
#14170
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 21 2014 21:44 GMT
#14171
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

i believe its wehn letters = numbers but you dont know the pattern, it may be a=1 or a=16
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
October 21 2014 21:44 GMT
#14172
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

generate a string as long as the message by taking a key and repeating it, then do position-wise mod 26 addition
or read the wikipedia article, it's probably a little easier to understand than that one sentence
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 21:46:49
October 21 2014 21:45 GMT
#14173
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

On October 22 2014 06:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

i believe its wehn letters = numbers but you dont know the pattern, it may be a=1 or a=16


No that's a Caesar cipher. A Vigenère cipher usually also does that, but its more than that.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#14174
http://www.math.tamu.edu/~dallen/hollywood/breaking/v.htm
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 21 2014 21:47 GMT
#14175
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

It doesn't have to be of equal length (just repeat the same code message over and over)
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 21 2014 21:47 GMT
#14176
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

i believe its wehn letters = numbers but you dont know the pattern, it may be a=1 or a=16


No that's a Caesar cipher. A Vigenère cipher usually also does that, but its more than that.


That sounds hard to crack.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2014 21:48 GMT
#14177
On October 22 2014 06:47 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

It doesn't have to be of equal length (just repeat the same code message over and over)


True, but that introduces additional vulnerabilities. A Caesar cipher is just a Vigenère of length 1 for example.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 21 2014 21:50 GMT
#14178
On October 22 2014 06:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:47 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

It doesn't have to be of equal length (just repeat the same code message over and over)


True, but that introduces additional vulnerabilities. A Caesar cipher is just a Vigenère of length 1 for example.

It's not a long message so frequency analysis is weaker
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 21 2014 21:50 GMT
#14179
On October 22 2014 06:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

On October 22 2014 06:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

i believe its wehn letters = numbers but you dont know the pattern, it may be a=1 or a=16


No that's a Caesar cipher. A Vigenère cipher usually also does that, but its more than that.


That sounds hard to crack.

harder than an egg
ya im not gonna take the effort to figure it out, besides, what would i do assuming i figure it out and its his legit address? spread it to the internet and let weird stalkers fuck him up? nah, not worth it
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#14180
On October 22 2014 06:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 06:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?


Choose a text of equal length to your message and assign a value for each character of both messages. Add them together resulting a new character for each pair. You have your new message.

On October 22 2014 06:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:41 The_Templar wrote:
On October 22 2014 06:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Its probably some sort of Vigenère cipher. Someone who recorded both ciphers could probably solve it, assuming the message was the same and that The_Templar followed some sort of standardized address format. But I don't think anyone here is obsessive enough to actually do that.

Correct. Yeah I don't think anyone will actually bother to find the code word(s) and frequency analysis is impossible

Give us a hint. Are the code words something starcraft related? also what's a vigenere cipher?

i believe its wehn letters = numbers but you dont know the pattern, it may be a=1 or a=16


No that's a Caesar cipher. A Vigenère cipher usually also does that, but its more than that.


That sounds hard to crack.


It is. Though for a longer message you can use letter frequency analysis to determine the message (using the fact that some letters are more common than others). Of course you can avoid that problem by using random bytes as the code message. Either way, Vigenère isn't terribly practical as you still have to send the key to your interlocutor.
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