EPTRanked matchmaking coming to Dota 2 - Page 93
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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts. | ||
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govie
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DougJDempsey
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On January 07 2014 05:57 durrrrr wrote: This is true yes,I'm floating around 4650-4800 with losing/winning streaks and can't break that and I consider myself semi-pro player,currently 10 loss streak :D that is just adorable. play pub games = semi pro now? : ) | ||
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ChunderBoy
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On January 07 2014 10:10 govie wrote: To add to my earlier comment. Singsing plays 3 matches and loses 50 points per match, and when he wins he gets 0 points (ye, not a typo, really zero points). gege exactly same here, there is no motive to play any more ranked for me. get the worst teammeates ever and get no points if i manage to win 1v5. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Seriously, I have gotten points for every match I have won. The MMR for SingSing might have been bugged at the moment or something. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote: Man, remember when Dota was fun and we just played to play Dota without all those shiny numbers. Those were the good old days when a win was a win and we didn't need this other stuff to keep us playing. Seriously, I have gotten points for every match I have won. The MMR for SingSing might have been bugged at the moment or something. You are not exactly at Sing's level. This happens because of the fact he has so much more points than the other players, and should be happening ocasionally to every other player at that level, specially with the changes to make the queues shorter. It doesn't mean MMR isn't working, it's not supposed to reward you for wins or punish you for losses. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:22 SKC wrote: You are not exactly at Sing's level. This happens because of the fact he has so much more points than the other players, and should be happening ocasionally to every other player at that level, specially with the changes to make the queues shorter. It doesn't mean MMR isn't working, it's not supposed to reward you for wins or punish you for losses. Wait, your telling me I am not as good as a professional player? The nerve you have, sir. And that is to be expected if he is matched against a team that is well below his skill level. Someone has to be at the top. But it is no reason for people complaining about ELO hell to stop playing, thinking they won't get points. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:26 Plansix wrote: Wait, your telling me I am not as good as a professional player? The nerve you have, sir. And that is to be expected if he is matched against a team that is well below his skill level. Someone has to be at the top. But it is no reason for people complaining about ELO hell to stop playing, thinking they won't get points. Just saying the fact it doesn't happen to your doesn't mean his MMR is bugged, that's just how it works. How many points you get don't really matter in this case, MMR works diferently at the top, it's the kind of thing where comparisons from players like Beesa are far more valuable. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:22 SKC wrote: You are not exactly at Sing's level. This happens because of the fact he has so much more points than the other players, and should be happening ocasionally to every other player at that level, specially with the changes to make the queues shorter. It doesn't mean MMR isn't working, it's not supposed to reward you for wins or punish you for losses. u seem indenial, im sorry for your loss. Its bugged and need fixin | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:38 govie wrote: u seem indenial, im sorry for your loss. Its bugged and need fixin It is possible for an individual MMR to increase after a loss or decrease after a win, but in general the winning team’s average MMR will increase and the losing team’s MMR will decrease. Valve even adressed it, saying it is possible. Bugged it isn't, since they acknowledge it as a possibility. | ||
Penecks
United States600 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12279 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote: Man, remember when Dota was fun and we just played to play Dota without all those shiny numbers. Those were the good old days when a win was a win and we didn't need this other stuff to keep us playing. Seriously, I have gotten points for every match I have won. The MMR for SingSing might have been bugged at the moment or something. It's not that his MMR is bugged, it's that he's so far above everyone else that he will either earn nothing or lose a lot. That's especially plausible if they indeed relaxed the search range at the high end to cut down on queue times. If you're playing with people +/- 200 from you but Sing and Beesa are playing people +/- (in this case -) 800 or something, then their rating change is going to be way different. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 07 2014 10:55 Excalibur_Z wrote: It's not that his MMR is bugged, it's that he's so far above everyone else that he will either earn nothing or lose a lot. That's especially plausible if they indeed relaxed the search range at the high end to cut down on queue times. If you're playing with people +/- 200 from you but Sing and Beesa are playing people +/- (in this case -) 800 or something, then their rating change is going to be way different. From what I've heard they are playing with people with 4k, so the diference is over 1k. It's pretty huge and it's unreasonable to compare such situation to your average game. | ||
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12279 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:13 Soulstice wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the sooner the game ends, the less points you gain/lose? This seems to be the case, at least in my experience and i find it quite dumb, you should gain more points, IF anything. How do you know that it's not just a favored team is likely to win faster? | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:16 Excalibur_Z wrote: How do you know that it's not just a favored team is likely to win faster? I have thought of that. But it has happened literally every single time a game ends before 25 minutes, never later. I have played over a hundred ranked games and i find it hard to believe every one sided game ive encountered has ended super early, and never mid-late. | ||
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Kupon3ss
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:20 Kuroeeah wrote: SingSing is the best ladder player, Valve even acknowledged him being rank 1 back during the TI2 era. I doubt it. He's good but he screw around too much. | ||
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