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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On January 04 2014 18:34 Alur wrote: The 6k+ I know of are Topson, Jerax, FATA and Beesa. Back when ratings were public Topson seemed to be the highest rated player. Of course any one of these things can have changed since then. Sing and Illidan(from VP or Empire or something?) is 6k+ as well. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
Overall it's exactly like the old system, except it gives us a shiny number to get a picture where we play. That's really all I wanted or needed from it. My friends and I mostly play all pick, we mostly random 3-4 heroes, don't give a fuck about counterpicking and have a grand ol' time. The only difference is the overall number that tracks our win/loss. I don't see myself ever playing non-ranked again, because I just don't see the point. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On January 04 2014 16:12 maru~ wrote: If your team is not retarded there is usually no issue about who's going mid. Uhm i've had everything from someone picking another mid just before game starts and coming to mid when i'm there and refusing to leave, to russians picking faceless void vs something like a timber or qop and calling mid. So yeah this "if team is not retarded" is kinda true but for the most part.. there is at least one retard on your team. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On January 04 2014 23:17 kaztah wrote: After a couple of weeks with ranked and about 30 games, I must say I enjoy the whole implementation. Overall it's exactly like the old system, except it gives us a shiny number to get a picture where we play. That's really all I wanted or needed from it. My friends and I mostly play all pick, we mostly random 3-4 heroes, don't give a fuck about counterpicking and have a grand ol' time. The only difference is the overall number that tracks our win/loss. I don't see myself ever playing non-ranked again, because I just don't see the point. Just one thing I would like: to be able to judge what the shiny number actually means. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On January 05 2014 04:43 grs wrote: Just one thing I would like: to be able to judge what the shiny number actually means. How to judge the meaning of something that means nothing | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 05 2014 05:18 synapse wrote: something interesting to note, only got +17 from a game where we drafted fast push and won at 18 minutes. we all had about the same kda, gpm, etc. You were probably just expected to win. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On January 05 2014 04:54 Erasme wrote: He wants to know where he is compared to the general ranked population Yes, a simple percentile would do it. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On January 05 2014 04:45 LeLoup wrote: How to judge the meaning of something that means nothing no, I'm quite certain it does mean something | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:35 cilinder007 wrote: no, I'm quite certain it does mean something Yes it is a game's best guess at how 'good' you are at it that it uses to try and make a fair match. Considering everything that goes into it, it means literally nothing because it can't physically account for the 100 plus factors that affect each individual player on a game to game basis. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 06 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote: Yes it is a game's best guess at how 'good' you are at it that it uses to try and make a fair match. Considering everything that goes into it, it means literally nothing because it can't physically account for the 100 plus factors that affect each individual player on a game to game basis. If rating meant nothing, 5 3k rated players would beat 5 6k rated players 50% of the time. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
So i have this friend that only plays tinker to farm rating because random pubs can't deal with tinker march spam. When i asked him if he wants to stack, he said he will stack again once he has 5k solo rating (currently at 4k with 80% tinker winrate). A couple others that used to random every single game now do the mexican counterpick standoff bullshit every time we play ranked. If i just random they are like "dude this ranked". | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:03 Alur wrote: If rating meant nothing, 5 3k rated players would beat 5 6k rated players 50% of the time. I'm not sure about <5,5k but it seems to me that above 5,5k rating differences don't really matter much. There's only like what ~8 known people to have 6k and they don't really stand out compared to other players at 5,5k++. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:28 Andre wrote: I'm not sure about <5,5k but it seems to me that above 5,5k rating differences don't really matter much. There's only like what ~8 known people to have 6k and they don't really stand out compared to other players at 5,5k++. 5,5k to 6k and 3k to 6k is a pretty big diference. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:28 Andre wrote: I'm not sure about <5,5k but it seems to me that above 5,5k rating differences don't really matter much. There's only like what ~8 known people to have 6k and they don't really stand out compared to other players at 5,5k++. Above 5.5k still difference a lot. Let's say 5.5k is Grandmaster in sc2 to make it easy to compare. There is a big difference in Grandmaster and top grandmaster. And then there is a difference from top grand master to actually solid pros that does fairly well in tournaments. Then there is a difference between them and the pros who wins. Compare the bottom of NA grandmasters to the likes of Taeja Innovation etc and there is a massive difference. If you watch Sings stream, he's 6k+ and how often he destroys people mid even if they are 5.5k+. It is a huge difference in skill. | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:49 DrPandaPhD wrote: Above 5.5k still difference a lot. Let's say 5.5k is Grandmaster in sc2 to make it easy to compare. There is a big difference in Grandmaster and top grandmaster. And then there is a difference from top grand master to actually solid pros that does fairly well in tournaments. Then there is a difference between them and the pros who wins. Compare the bottom of NA grandmasters to the likes of Taeja Innovation etc and there is a massive difference. If you watch Sings stream, he's 6k+ and how often he destroys people mid even if they are 5.5k+. It is a huge difference in skill. I really think that 5.5k is some kind of breakpoint where rating doesnt correlate with skill anymore, i have several people in my friendlist who are (far) above 5.5k but are still a lot worse than your typical player on a tier1 team. Obviously they are still very very good compared to everybody else but nowhere close to a progamer. This phenomenon probably comes from the fact that dota is a team game and that soloqueue doesnt reflects skill as much as it does in SC2. | ||
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