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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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-FmP-
Canada85 Posts
On January 02 2014 05:35 maru~ wrote: How do you know their rank? Just asked them I guess? Yeah..or if they're exceptionally bad I'll add them, check for myself, then delete them after..lol. | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
Has anyone played nonranked lately? Shit's random as hell. | ||
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-FmP-
Canada85 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 02 2014 05:40 maru~ wrote: Ah, nice strat. Has anyone played nonranked lately? Shit's random as hell. I played an unranked game with friends and we just pubtrained with Riki and Slark | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On January 02 2014 06:51 -FmP- wrote: Unranked is like some twilight zone shit nowadays.. Dude, you're not kidding. I played with a friend last night and we got steamrolled like 47-11 by a 5 stack of very good players. The dude playing Invoker had godly timing and reflexes. And then the next game, my friend ended up like 22-4 with LC while not buying a single decent item and basically randomly dueling people because he's terrible. So weird. | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
Solo MMR: 3232 (originally 3460) Party MMR: 3731 Yeeeeap.. Even based on original MMR party MMR is higher... Need solo queue plz.... no more playing as solo against parties that skew outcome of games What I don't understand is that valve HAD solo queue.... it's not like they have to code anything or have to wait for a release... there was an OUTPOURING before and there is still an outpouring now of people asking for solo queue when playing solo... it just makes sense in every single way possible to have this option. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Solo MMR: 3674... I'd better learn how to play. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
I actually kind of liked the MMR being hidden, and then being able to reveal it after a certain number of games. It worked well for a game like dota where you need very high sample sizes to even out the variations in teammates/heroes/etc. I wonder if it might be better to update visible MMR once every 10-20 games or something? That would help a lot with the situations where you lose 50 points on a game where another lane went 0-5 by 5:00. Even in the absence of a raging superiority complex, those games do happen and it's pretty demoralizing to see the number straight afterwards. Average it out over a few days and it's not as bad; dota is a game that really warrants perspective on things like streaks. Even if you found out you really had gotten worse after a few days, well, that would be disappointing but you'd be able to tell yourself you had another 10 games to get it back before the next check. And then another 10 after that... | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
On January 02 2014 10:27 Belisarius wrote: I'm starting to think ladder anxiety will be as big a problem for dota as it was for SC2. In fact it's worse here, because Valve don't fudge it with a bonus pool and it's tempting to D-K every loss streak into ragequitting while blaming the MM. I actually kind of liked the MMR being hidden, and then being able to reveal it after a certain number of games. It worked well for a game like dota where you need very high sample sizes to even out the variations in teammates/heroes/etc. I wonder if it might be better to update visible MMR once every 10-20 games or something? That would help a lot with the situations where you lose 50 points on a game where another lane went 0-5 by 5:00. Even in the absence of a raging superiority complex, those games do happen and it's pretty demoralizing to see the number straight afterwards. Average it out over a few days and it's not as bad; dota is a game that really warrants perspective on things like streaks. Even if you found out you really had gotten worse after a few days, well, that would be disappointing but you'd be able to tell yourself you had another 10 games to get it back before the next check. And then another 10 after that... I don't think it'll be that bad. So far, my ranked games have been super relaxing, and there's one important aspect of Sc2 ladder anxiety that isn't present in Dota - If you lose in Sc2, the loss is 100% objectively your fault. If you lost, that means that the other player played better than you, is better than you at the matchup, or outsmarted you in a way you didn't expect. If you lose in Dota because your offlane went 0/5 and decided to convert bottom lane into a trilane at 8 minutes, then you can easily tell yourself that you lost because your teammate did a derp, accept your negative points and move on with life knowing that someday that derp will be on the opposing team, and harmonic balance will be regained. The confrontation of the fear that you're not actually good at the game isn't so boldly apparent as it is in Sc2 with its leagues and ratings and 1v1 format. Because of that, I really don't think ladder fear will be that big of an issue. There's also the easy access to noncompetitive channels in Dota, whereas in Sc2 ranked 1v1 was far, far more prevalent. | ||
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insi9nia
Singapore19 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
score doesnt matter probably | ||
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insi9nia
Singapore19 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
I love ranked with all its drawbacks, have been playing mostly ranked and havent touched wraith night but i sure hope they reintroduce the real solo queue because I almost never play with stacks  | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 02 2014 17:33 insi9nia wrote: i see. then i dont see the relevance of the 10 game calibration at all. lol A lot of people are going to be a ways off from their appropriate rating if you use their normal hidden MMR due to things like stacking or not taking unranked matches seriously. Assigning higher uncertainty to the initial 10 ranked games lets them iron out those things quickly rather than having to play a lot of games to gain or lose the appropriate amount of rating. | ||
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insi9nia
Singapore19 Posts
so far we've been running into rather high rated teams so im guessing no? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On January 02 2014 05:16 Staboteur wrote: Ten feels like a ridiculous amount of games to be placed. This shits been out for a couple weeks and I still havent done all 10 yet. Apparently I've done 7. 10 games is absolutely not a ridiculous number of games. Mst players have hundreds of games played | ||
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 02 2014 15:50 insi9nia wrote: im still trying to figure out how the calibration is done. I went 8-2, queueing with mates who are in the region of 4.9 to 5.5k ratings (xfreedom, ninjaboogie, etc) and somehow still ended up being 3.8k rating after my 10games. I played the 4th or 5th role usually, hence not achieving a high KDR (unless you count assists). Does score actually matter? I dont see any reason for my low MMR besides my score... hmm. maybe you're bad on your own | ||
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RaelSan
Belgium223 Posts
Thanks for adding so much on this discussion ! But rly, this team mmr is really pointless and is basically a mirror of your solo mmr, I don't get why they didn't do it like in sc2, where every team has its personal mmr | ||
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